To you 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.
 

krunchykrome

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Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.


I expected more from you
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.


I expected more from you
what are you talking about :confused:
he is spot on once again.

 

Ika

Lifer
Mar 22, 2006
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You've actually thought about this? That means you've considered that it is, in fact, a conspiracy.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.


I expected more from you

:laugh: Explain?
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Aflac
You've actually thought about this? That means you've considered that it is, in fact, a conspiracy.

I've been sick lately (nasty summer cold), strange things run through your mind in the middle of the night when you are drugged up and can't sleep. :laugh:
 
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I havent done much reading/research on conspiracies about the planes hitting the TOWERS, but I saw a VERY convincing documentary that (to me) pretty well dismissed the idea that a plane hit the Pentagon...the evidence was plain and very obvious showing shenanigans there...my guess is that the planes/towers were a real genuine event but the government used that attack as an excuse to destroy some "evidence" / "get rid" of some people at the Pentagon...who knows? just my crackpot opinion :)
 

Ika

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Mar 22, 2006
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In general, I think trying to dispute the claims that conspiracy theorists are coming up with is pointless. If you refute one point, they're going to blindly suggest another. It's a battle that you can't win... and there's no way they'll change their minds. The fact that they believe in such an absurd theory is proof enough that they're fanatics. At that point I don't believe there's a turning-back point.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Why would you invite the foil hat crowd back in here? Let it go, they know the goverment was behind the attacks, and won't be swayed by facts in the face of higher truth.
 

GasX

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Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: crypt33
I havent done much reading/research on conspiracies about the planes hitting the TOWERS, but I saw a VERY convincing documentary that (to me) pretty well dismissed the idea that a plane hit the Pentagon...the evidence was plain and very obvious showing shenanigans there...my guess is that the planes/towers were a real genuine event but the government used that attack as an excuse to destroy some "evidence" / "get rid" of some people at the Pentagon...who knows? just my crackpot opinion :)

I have the same question for you that I have for all the 9/11 consp[iracy theorists - Are you stupid or retarded?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: crypt33
I havent done much reading/research on conspiracies about the planes hitting the TOWERS, but I saw a VERY convincing documentary that (to me) pretty well dismissed the idea that a plane hit the Pentagon...the evidence was plain and very obvious showing shenanigans there...my guess is that the planes/towers were a real genuine event but the government used that attack as an excuse to destroy some "evidence" / "get rid" of some people at the Pentagon...who knows? just my crackpot opinion :)

I have the same question for you that I have for all the 9/11 consp[iracy theorists - Are you stupid or retarded?
you forgot paranoia. these types all suffer from it.

 

So

Lifer
Jul 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: crypt33
I havent done much reading/research on conspiracies about the planes hitting the TOWERS, but I saw a VERY convincing documentary that (to me) pretty well dismissed the idea that a plane hit the Pentagon...the evidence was plain and very obvious showing shenanigans there...my guess is that the planes/towers were a real genuine event but the government used that attack as an excuse to destroy some "evidence" / "get rid" of some people at the Pentagon...who knows? just my crackpot opinion :)

I have the same question for you that I have for all the 9/11 consp[iracy theorists - Are you stupid or retarded?

QFMFT
 

Scarpozzi

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Jun 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: Greenman
Why would you invite the foil hat crowd back in here? Let it go, they know the goverment was behind the attacks, and won't be swayed by facts in the face of higher truth.
That Allah had something to do with this?
 

McGyver

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Nov 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.

are you a civil engineer?
 

BrokenVisage

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: Aflac
In general, I think trying to dispute the claims that conspiracy theorists are coming up with is pointless. If you refute one point, they're going to blindly suggest another. It's a battle that you can't win... and there's no way they'll change their minds. The fact that they believe in such an absurd theory is proof enough that they're fanatics. At that point I don't believe there's a turning-back point.

You know so little about a subject so vast that it literally made me laugh at work. I especially love that you think you know how everyone who doesn't support the 9/11 official story is a "fanatic who blindly suggests" things. I guess you got it all figured out in your little world now, so go back to your hole and feel better about knowing what really happened while us big boys do some critical thinking.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.

are you a civil engineer?

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Explain to me how the government was able to place explosives at the precise place in the building where the planes were flown into them? There is no disputing that the collapse of the towers began at the point of impact where the planes hit the buildings so how do you explain that? Besides, wouldn't the planes have set off the explosives?

Puts flame suit on and waits for tinfoil hat crowd.

are you a civil engineer?

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)
:thumbsup::laugh:

 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Aflac
In general, I think trying to dispute the claims that conspiracy theorists are coming up with is pointless. If you refute one point, they're going to blindly suggest another. It's a battle that you can't win... and there's no way they'll change their minds. The fact that they believe in such an absurd theory is proof enough that they're fanatics. At that point I don't believe there's a turning-back point.
You know so little about a subject so vast that it literally made me laugh at work. I especially love that you think you know how everyone who doesn't support the 9/11 official story is a "fanatic who blindly suggests" things. I guess you got it all figured out in your little world now, so go back to your hole and feel better about knowing what really happened while us big boys do some critical thinking.
I had a lot more respect for you before you revealed yourself in these threads to be a total tinfoil beanie wearer. :( Not that you should care what someone on the Interweb thinks of you, of course. But, cripes - tell me you're not pursuing a science degree of any type!
 

Ika

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Mar 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Aflac
In general, I think trying to dispute the claims that conspiracy theorists are coming up with is pointless. If you refute one point, they're going to blindly suggest another. It's a battle that you can't win... and there's no way they'll change their minds. The fact that they believe in such an absurd theory is proof enough that they're fanatics. At that point I don't believe there's a turning-back point.

You know so little about a subject so vast that it literally made me laugh at work. I especially love that you think you know how everyone who doesn't support the 9/11 official story is a "fanatic who blindly suggests" things. I guess you got it all figured out in your little world now, so go back to your hole and feel better about knowing what really happened while us big boys do some critical thinking.

I'm not sure where I said I thought I knew how everyone who doesn't support the 9/11 official story is a "fanatic who blindly suggests" things. Maybe we're not on the same page here, but I was thinking about the people such as the ones who made the "loose change" video when I made that comment, as well as the people who were harassing that woman who took that pic of the smoke of united flight 93.
 
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I am not myself a conspiracy theorist, but even I find the answers to your questions painfully obvious, so I don't know why you'd start this thread.

If, hypothetically, the government created the 9/11 attacks, it knew that the planes would crash into the two WTC towers - there was no mystery about which buildings it would need to implode. At that point any competent demolitions expert could pre-place charges to bring the buildings down. C4, like some other explosive agents frequently used for civil demolitions, is not flammable and would not go off as a result of the impact or the resulting fire. By the same token, they would (or at least could have) install a tiered top-down detonation system that would allow them to start at any floor or group of floors (by placing, say, a set of charges at every fifth floor).

Again, I don't buy into the conspiracy theories, but surely if the government had the inclination and wherewithal to get the planes on target, the civil demolition piece of the plan would, relatively speaking, be small potatoes.
 

spaceghost21

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May 22, 2004
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There was no conspiracy.

The United States has been funding extreme Islam for years. We sold our soul for oil. Washington crippled the CIA's ability to prevent such attacks. September 11th was the result of this.

 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: DonVito
I am not myself a conspiracy theorist, but even I find the answers to your questions painfully obvious, so I don't know why you'd start this thread.

If, hypothetically, the government created the 9/11 attacks, it knew that the planes would crash into the two WTC towers - there was no mystery about which buildings it would need to implode. At that point any competent demolitions expert could pre-place charges to bring the buildings down. C4, like some other explosive agents frequently used for civil demolitions, is not flammable and would not go off as a result of the impact or the resulting fire. By the same token, they would (or at least could have) install a tiered top-down detonation system that would allow them to start at any floor or group of floors (by placing, say, a set of charges at every fifth floor).

Again, I don't buy into the conspiracy theories, but surely if the government had the inclination and wherewithal to get the planes on target, the civil demolition piece of the plan would, relatively speaking, be small potatoes.
It's definitely a doable plan, though I tend to think that absolutely nobody encountering the charges throughout the building nor the agent that placed them there are unlikely.

The part that trips it up for me is the idea that the government could pull off the mass murder of 3,000 of its citizens with no leaks. They can't even keep the existence of secret prisons on other continents a secret! Not one guilty party cried into his wife's shoulder at night with the guilt of those people's lives on his concience? Unpossible.
 

So

Lifer
Jul 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: spaceghost21
There was no conspiracy.

The United States has been funding extreme Islam for years. We sold our soul for oil. Washington crippled the CIA's ability to prevent such attacks. September 11th was the result of this.

I don't think we ever had a soul. Just a warm nougat center wrapped in a wad of cash.