To you 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
OP, PM me when you can prove an airliner hit the Pentagon on 9/11


...Galvanized

Here's your proof:

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Link
Edit: And fvck anyone who craps on the memories of the victims by continuing to perpetuate this complete bullshlt conspiracy.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
You obviously did not actually even watch or read much of the conspiracy theorist's side of the argument before you disregarded it as buffoonery.

That's because anyone who even partially believes that 9/11 was anything other than a terrorist act is a complete idiot and not worth listening to.
Conspiracy idiots (not theorists, because I associate forming a theory with actually having some intelligence) don't want to sit down with experts, and actually have their stupid assertions debunked one by one.
Because that's exactly what would happen. Not one single thing can't be easily and scientifically debunked beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
You obviously did not actually even watch or read much of the conspiracy theorist's side of the argument before you disregarded it as buffoonery.

That's because anyone who even partially believes that 9/11 was anything other than a terrorist act is a complete idiot and not worth listening to.
Conspiracy idiots (not theorists, because I associate forming a theory with actually having some intelligence) don't want to sit down with experts, and actually have their stupid assertions debunked one by one.
Because that's exactly what would happen. Not one single thing can't be easily and scientifically debunked beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The government loves you.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
You obviously did not actually even watch or read much of the conspiracy theorist's side of the argument before you disregarded it as buffoonery.

That's because anyone who even partially believes that 9/11 was anything other than a terrorist act is a complete idiot and not worth listening to.
Conspiracy idiots (not theorists, because I associate forming a theory with actually having some intelligence) don't want to sit down with experts, and actually have their stupid assertions debunked one by one.
Because that's exactly what would happen. Not one single thing can't be easily and scientifically debunked beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The government loves you.

Common sense and education hate you.

 

[confused1234]

im torn 50/50 in this subject. for one the world trade towers where the first 2 steel framed building EVER to collapse from fire. yes i read maddox's article but youd think more steel frammed buildings would burn down.

also what about all the firefighters in NYC that said they heard 3 explotions followed by the collapse?

also while i dont believe the US orchestrated this thing i do believe they lied about a lot of it.

also, you people should try to actually watch loose change instead of just saying its all bs before you see it all.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: confused1234


also, you people should try to actually watch loose change instead of just saying its all bs before you see it all.

Unfortunately, the time I spend watching all of loose change is time I will never get back. The entire thing is BS. Period.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: confused1234


also, you people should try to actually watch loose change instead of just saying its all bs before you see it all.

Unfortunately, the time I spend watching all of loose change is time I will never get back. The entire thing is BS. Period.

some of it was utter bs, but the guy did make some points......

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: confused1234
im torn 50/50 in this subject. for one the world trade towers where the first 2 steel framed building EVER to collapse from fire. yes i read maddox's article but youd think more steel frammed buildings would burn down.

There's a first for everything.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
You obviously did not actually even watch or read much of the conspiracy theorist's side of the argument before you disregarded it as buffoonery.

That's because anyone who even partially believes that 9/11 was anything other than a terrorist act is a complete idiot and not worth listening to.
Conspiracy idiots (not theorists, because I associate forming a theory with actually having some intelligence) don't want to sit down with experts, and actually have their stupid assertions debunked one by one.
Because that's exactly what would happen. Not one single thing can't be easily and scientifically debunked beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The government loves you.

Common sense and education hate you.

Not to mention the facts.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: confused1234


also, you people should try to actually watch loose change instead of just saying its all bs before you see it all.

Unfortunately, the time I spend watching all of loose change is time I will never get back. The entire thing is BS. Period.

some of it was utter bs, but the guy did make some points......

points that were proven?

 

[confused1234]

well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

 

[Ken90630]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
OP, PM me when you can prove an airliner hit the Pentagon on 9/11

...Galvanized

Ummm ... where are the passengers from that flight if it didn't hit the Pentagon?

Lessee ... there is a litany of family members, friends, etc., of the victims who died in the plane that hit the Pentagon. I guess they're all in on this vast conspiracy too, and they know their relatives weren't really killed -- I suppose they're all just gonna hang out in Dick Cheney's guest house for the rest of their lives, huh? Yeah -- that's the ticket! And not one of these hundreds of family members, friends, etc., has let the cat out of the bag? That dastardly Bush administration inspires such loyalty! :laugh:

And -- shudder! -- if the family members aren't in on the plot, then all those victims just voluntarily agreed to disappear for the rest of their lives, leaving their wives, kids, siblings, friends, jobs, homes, etc., behind forever so that GW, Cheney and the "neo-cons" could pull this whole thing off, huh? Talk about sacrifice and dedication to one's country!

All so we can "steal" middle eastern oil, right? :roll:

Oh, I forgot to mention the video tape that surfaced not long after 9/11. You know which one I mean, don'tcha? The one with bin Hiding and several other members of his entourage all sitting around in the dirt, preparing for a meal, with bin Hiding bragging about how his construction background gave him the knowledge to know that the burning jet fuel would weaken the towers' structures to the point where they'd collapse. Or did you not catch that particular video? CNN, Fox, MSNBC and others only showed it about a thousand times. And as I recall, it was translated by multiple independent sources, with only very small differences over individual words here or there. I guess all the translators were in on the conspiracy too. Of course -- they'd have to be!

But hey, I guess bin Hiding and his entourage are actually hanging out at Cheney's guest house too, and the tape was fabricated by him and that dastardly GW also, huh? The same film crew that faked the moon landing in 1969 filmed that little get-together too! Of course -- it all makes sense now! They're all in on this together -- it is a conspiracy! It is, it is, it is!

You Kool-Aid addicts are nothing if not amusing. Raise your cups to Moore, Dean, McKinney, Moveon.org, Soros, Code Pink et al. Go ahead, take a big gulp -- they'll continue to brew up tasty new batches for you for years to come.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Ken90630

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
OP, PM me when you can prove an airliner hit the Pentagon on 9/11

...Galvanized

Ummm ... where are the passengers from that flight if it didn't hit the Pentagon?

Lessee ... there is a litany of family members, friends, etc., of the victims who died in the plane that hit the Pentagon. I guess they're all in on this vast conspiracy too, and they know their relatives weren't really killed -- I suppose they're all just gonna hang out in Dick Cheney's guest house for the rest of their lives, huh? Yeah -- that's the ticket! And not one of these hundreds of family members, friends, etc., has let the cat out of the bag? That dastardly Bush administration inspires such loyalty! :laugh:

And -- shudder! -- if the family members aren't in on the plot, then all those victims just voluntarily agreed to disappear for the rest of their lives, leaving their wives, kids, siblings, friends, jobs, homes, etc., behind forever so that GW, Cheney and the "neo-cons" could pull this whole thing off, huh? Talk about sacrifice and dedication to one's country!

All so we can "steal" middle eastern oil, right? :roll:

Oh, I forgot to mention the video tape that surfaced not long after 9/11. You know which one I mean, don'tcha? The one with bin Hiding and several other members of his entourage all sitting around in the dirt, preparing for a meal, with bin Hiding bragging about how his construction background gave him the knowledge to know that the burning jet fuel would weaken the towers' structures to the point where they'd collapse. Or did you not catch that particular video? CNN, Fox, MSNBC and others only showed it about a thousand times. And as I recall, it was translated by multiple independent sources, with only very small differences over individual words here or there. I guess all the translators were in on the conspiracy too. Of course -- they'd have to be!

But hey, I guess bin Hiding and his entourage are actually hanging out at Cheney's guest house too, and the tape was fabricated by him and that dastardly GW also, huh? The same film crew that faked the moon landing in 1969 filmed that little get-together too! Of course -- it all makes sense now! They're all in on this together -- it is a conspiracy! It is, it is, it is!

You Kool-Aid addicts are nothing if not amusing. Raise your cups to Moore, Dean, McKinney, Moveon.org, Soros, Code Pink et al. Go ahead, take a big gulp -- they'll continue to brew up tasty new batches for you for years to come.

i remember the controversy with that video. i forgot which hand bin laden uses as his domminant one but in the video it showed he was using his other hand as the domminant one.

also this if the government was willing to kill 2000+ people(which im not saying they are) wouldnt you think it would be really easy just to fly that jet down to cuba and improsin them for the rest of their lives?

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate. but lets say it did. how come NONE of the lawn infront of the crash site was disturbed?

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate

So says you. What makes you think you know what you are talking about?

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate. but lets say it did. how come NONE of the lawn infront of the crash site was disturbed?

Right, that's why there was PLENTY of debris at the Pentagon of Flight 77.

small language edit

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate

So says you. What makes you think you know what you are talking about?

LOL !!!!!!!!!!

so does teddy bears too?

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
OP, PM me when you can prove an airliner hit the Pentagon on 9/11


...Galvanized

Here's your proof:

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Link
Edit: And fvck anyone who craps on the memories of the victims by continuing to perpetuate this complete bullshlt conspiracy.

The Pratt & Whitney engines on the main wing are 6 tons each. They left no marks on
the wall of the pentagon. This hit is/was a hoax.

So fvch me for believing our goverment is filled with lying sons of bitches Patriotism does
not float this mans boat anymore. That crap has been used to manipulate us all. Our flag
is just butt wipes for those in power on Capital Hill.

Keeping oil on the petrodollar instead of the Euro is what this whole stupid war is about.

...Galvanized

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate. but lets say it did. how come NONE of the lawn infront of the crash site was disturbed?

Because the plane hit the building, and not the lawn?

Besides, how do you KNOW nothing was disturbed? Did you go out there and take pictures?

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate. but lets say it did. how come NONE of the lawn infront of the crash site was disturbed?

Right, that's why there was PLENTY of debris at the Pentagon of Flight 77.

small language edit

by disturbed i mean no dirt was dug up or anything like that

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: confused1234
well another thing. what about all the grass infront of the pentagon that was undisterb right after the crash? no dirt was dug up or anything from the plane. also why would the pentagon go and take of the videos cameras that had a view of the pentagon like 5 minutes after it happened. i mean were not talking like 5 tapes they had to get it was alot more then that.

also there were no wings recovered at the site of the pentagon

READ THE FVCKING POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

The plane was disentegrated, but they found PLENTY of debris, parts, the black box, body parts of crew members, etc.

planes dont just disentegrate. but lets say it did. how come NONE of the lawn infront of the crash site was disturbed?

Because the plane hit the building, and not the lawn?

Besides, how do you KNOW nothing was disturbed? Did you go out there and take pictures?

i saw pictures

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee

The Pratt & Whitney engines on the main wing are 6 tons each. They left no marks on
the wall of the pentagon. This hit is/was a hoax.

So fvch me for believing our goverment is fill with lying sons of bitches Patriotism does
not float this mans boat anymore. That crap has been used to manipulate us all. Our flag
is just butt wipes for those in power on Capital Hill.

Keeping oil on the petrodollar instead of the Euro is what this whole stupid war is about.

...Galvanized

Jesus, you people are idiots.

The engines left no mark...right, JUST A BIG ASS HOLE AND A FIRE. That's not a mark though, is it?

 

[adairusmc]

I think the only solution for the people that think ANYTHING about 9/11 is a conspiracy is for them to commit seppuku. People who dontiue to perpetuate that BS have are beyond retarded.

 

[confused1234]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageentagon_crach_site.jpg

sure looks like wings makrs to me/sarcasm

uhh wtf stupid emoicons getting in the way of the url