To the people that insult Moonbeam

[b0mbrman]

I'm sure he thinks it's no big deal...I've been insulted before too. It's just an online forum; why let it get to you?

Cheers,
b0mbrman

p.s. insults to me usually begin with "b0mbie..."

 

[Pliablemoose]

Some points about MB:

If more of us thought with our big heads, rather than our small heads, we could use big words, have a personal philosophy, and actually think in paragraphs, the world would be a much different place.

Or is this thread really a ploy for us to accumulate insults about Moonbeam?

 

[wfbberzerker]

it seems to me that moonbeam is a sh!tload smarter than those who attack him.

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: Bleep
What a bunch of crap.
Maetryx, do you think that Moonbeam is unable to defend himself and you have to do it for him? This is the ultimate insult to Moonbeam, you are emplying that he/she is not capable or smart enough to defend themself.
Bleep

I'm quite confident that Moonbeam could defend himself better than I ever could. I'm equally confident that he wouldn't bother. I speak from my own mind out of my own frustration with lazy, childish attacks on his person.

If Moonbeam is insulted by my speaking out on this issue, to which he is unavoidably central, then so be it.

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: maladroit
Speaking in first person plural and using a lot of infinitives in your writing does not necessarily make you smarter than everyone. If you equate big words with smart, then I would recommend you take an english course, my friend.

My friends don't normally assume that I'm easily impressed by big words and then suggest I take an english course. If you want to be my friend, you're going to have to come at me from a different angle.

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: klah
If we do not push our questions beyond the limits within which possible experience can present us with its object, we shall never dream of seeking to inform ourselves about the objects of our senses as they are in themselves, that is, out of all relation to the senses. But if the individual takes appearances for things in themselves, and as existing in and by themselves, then whether he be a materialist who admits into his system nothing but matter alone, or a spiritualist who admits only thinking beings (that is, beings with the form of our inner sense), or a dualist who accepts both, he will always, owing to this misunderstanding, be entangled in pseudo-rational speculations as to how that which is not a thing in itself, but only the appearance of a thing in general, can exist by itself.
- The Philosophy of Moonbeam

I suspect that this is more accurately attributed to David Hume, the 19th (?) century philospher who doubted we could ever know a thing in and of itself. That we could only know what our senses told us about that thing, further filtered by our own minds. Moonbeam apparently believes there is a way to understand the thing by pushing our questions beyond our experiential limits. I disagree. We only have our minds. The world is as it appears. We can trust our basic sensory perceptions.

 

[luv2chill]

Despite your good intentions Maetryx, I don't know if Moonbeam really needed or wanted this thread to be posted. Perhaps if it were generalized more to become a rant about how people here treat others period it would be worth more.

But since we're on the subject:

He is one of the few people here whose posts keep me coming back. I "resonate" with a lot of what he says and I feel there's a lot I can learn from him. Regardless, I look forward to his posts because I know, for that moment, that I'll have something to really think about. In a sea of threads about the physical appearance of automobiles and women---and when the most common replies have the words st[/b]ab or PICS? in them, I consider Moonbeam's posts to be a breath of fresh air.

Moonbeam realizes that when people insult they're covering for something. He (yes, he) takes the high road because he knows it leads to a better place. Yet if you ask him about how he knows so much he'll admit that in the scheme of things, he knows nothing. It's true of all of us, but egos tend to keep thoughts of that kind deeply supressed.

We should feel fortunate that he continues to "waste" his time here trying to reason with morons. Superficial conversations abound in daily life. It's rather nice to talk to someone who actually requires you to engage your brain and your heart.

l2c

 

Okay, no one's gonna mess with my man. Moonbeam is my 'net baby. I'll protect it. Ain't nobody gonna mess with him 'cuz they'll get their @$$ses kicked real hard. LOL!

Seriously though, I won't turn Moonbeam into this mythical character or describe him as the most intelligent human being, for that's irrelevant to the discussion. What I can speak proudly of him about is that he's respectful of people when communicating with them, albeit sometimes sarcastic in nature. He earns my respect. And anyone who disses Moonbeam merits one back at his or her behind.

Sweet Moonbeam. LOL! I love ya! :Q *Beaming!*

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: Maetryx....... I disagree. We only have our minds. The world is as it appears. We can trust our basic sensory perceptions.

We have a winner! Let the pigeons fly!

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: luv2chill
Despite your good intentions Maetryx, I don't know if Moonbeam really needed or wanted this thread to be posted.

You are undoubtedly correct. I didn't generalize the topic because it is specifically "the people that insult Moonbeam" that I wanted to address.

 

Oh, and I should add: I'm also proud of Moonbeam because he learns to shun people who have nothing better to say than argument against the person. Moonbeam stands up proudly for himself. I therefore make no attempts to speak on behalf of him. He can handle the not-so-sophisticated without my assistance. :Q Goooooooooo Moonbeam!!!!!

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: luvly
Oh, and I should add: I'm also proud of Moonbeam because he learns to shun people who have nothing better to say than argument against the person. Moonbeam stands up proudly for himself. I therefore make no attempts to speak on behalf of him. He can handle the no-so-sophisticated without my assistance. :Q Goooooooooo Moonbeam!!!!!

Jeez, moonie's got a cheerleading squad now.

Should we call them the Moonunits?

 

[Howard]

I love Moonbeam.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Kiyup
Well, all his posts say this with different wording:

"Love yourself and the world will have no problems"

Actually no.

Moonbeam's philosophy is typical of most pseudo-ultra liberal socialists. It is "You will give to those whom we decide are needy whether you want to or not." Of course, he deliberately frames it in a lot of flowery prose, big words, and psychobabble, so most people don't get it. Funny thing is, I don't think he gets it either. He thinks that needy people should be helped (which is admirable), and that the government should be the entity doing the helping (which is not but he can't seem to envision a world in which people help others without government enforcement), and so becomes very charitable with other people's money (via taxes) without realizing it.

No disrespect intended. It's just that his utopia is my Orwellian nightmare.

 

[Kadarin]

Interesting thread. While I disagree in large part with his political leanings, I do believe he's basically a decent human being, even if he takes perverse enjoyment in deliberately obfuscating his message.

 

Originally posted by: Maetryx
Seriously:

How many of us would silently accept the name-calling (and name mangling) abuse that Moonbeam undergoes constantly? The replies to his writings almost always start off with "Moonie" and typically insult and attack him personally.

If you have a logically superior response to his position, please present it. I get tired of people blowing off Moonbeam, and I honestly think it stems from an inability to formulate a reasoned response.

Don't even kid yourself. Moonbeam is SMART. If you don't think his writings makes sense, YOU are the underacheiver. Build a better argument, then spout off. Stop embarassing yourself.

In reference to this thread and many others...

Note: gender assumed (and then confirmed by luv2chill)

If you cant take the heat, get outta the kitchen.

 

[sandorski]

I like Moonies posts! Partially because I generally agree with his positions, but also because they are often very funny. Sometimes I'll read his posts and say "WTF? That doesn't sound like him", then I'll see an AT newb start flaming him without realizing who Moonie is or what his positions are. That's when I get a good chuckle, only those who have been around ATOT awhile can truly know what Moonie is saying. (makes an oldy like me feel special )

He is widely misunderstood, IMO. He doesn't use big words or carry on to overwhelm the reader, he is a poet at heart and that is reflected in his posts. Love him or hate him, his posts are more interesting than what most of us can type.

 

[bizmark]

Well put l2c. I agree completely. And I never have problems reading Moonbeam's posts or making sense out of them, when I slow down and actually look at each word rather than skimming them. I don't think he uses a dictionary or thesaurus to write his posts -- he's got too many misspellings for that

Here are some Moonie quotes that I keep around, and I occasionally e-mail them to people when they're feeling down. I'm not completely sure that what Moonie suggests here is possible for most people, but it certainly gives hope

My guess is that you are not as good as most people at being dead, and
long burried emotional issues that most people successfully avoid ever
knowing they have, are in your case bubbling to the surface. Maybe you
have begun to see that everything is totally meaningless and that the
world is upside down. If so, it would help if you could get yourself into
a position where you can explore and face the domons that haunt our inner
world. It's an unfortunate fact that the door to paradice is at the end of
a journey through hell. One thing that may be of some use is the certain
knowledge that at core, you are God's image and only feel, incorrectly,
that you are a piece of crap. The hidden belief in the lie of our
worthlessness is our one and only real enemy. Have yourself a nice funeral
and find yourself reborn. The only thing that dies are illusions.

I find that just because people ask a question doesn't mean they want an
answer.

The answer is so simple that nobody knows it. But it's not only that they
don't know it. There's a reason they don't know it. They don't want to
know it. And they don't want to know they don't want to know. What are
your chances?

Well be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

We hate ourselves and anybody who loves us must necessarily be a fool. So
we do two things. Come here and get away. Come here and make me feel
good. Get away, your stupid if you're for real.

So what is broken in your head is broken in everybody's head, it's just
that in minor ways we're all unique.

What we do is test people. We throw up roadblocks. We poke people in the
stomach to see if they REALLY love us. We treat people like sh!t to see if
they REALLY love us. We test in such a way as to make sure we get a
guaranteed NO.

The fix is equally simple. Naturally I'm kidding. Knowing what the fix is
is simple. Doing the actual fixing is something else again. You need to
love yourself and the way, the best way I know to do that other than to
experience Grace which is kind of hard to get on demand, is to get into
some kind of therapeutic setting where you can explore the truth of what
you feel, i.e. learn how to feel, and trace what you will discover, how
much you hate yourself, back to where you acquired those feelings. Then
you will see that they are complete lies, there isn't, and never was,
anything wrong with you. Then you can cast off the smug self protective
armor of egotism that protects you from consciousness of false feelings of
inferiority and expose yourself to the risk of loving. But with the ego
already dead, it won't be bad. You will already have nothing to lose and
everything to give.

 

[NeoV]

Moonbeam is likely a very small young man (20ish?), well read, but not much for social events/friends..

His use of the english language clearly indicates a desire to impress people, which accomplishes just the opposite in many cases. He brings the name-calling on himself, and I believe he totally enjoys the fact that a thread like this exists. This is likely all the social interaction he gets, and I think he is an 4ss most of the time.

 

[Ryan]

Why are you trying to kiss the asses of the forums most popular members?

This thread needs to be locked.

 

[tweakmm]

Moonbeam is how moonbeam is

 

"His use of the english language clearly indicates a desire to impress people, which accomplishes just the opposite in many cases. He brings the name-calling on himself, and I believe he totally enjoys the fact that a thread like this exists. This is likely all the social interaction he gets, and I think he is an 4ss most of the time."

NeoV, I'm not sure about that in two ways: 1) Relevance, my Lord? Of what relevance is his motive for using a certain language structure to the fact that people resort to mocking him for his views or his expression? 2) I could catch many grammatical errors and spelling on Moonbeam's writings. By his own admission, he's never been a good speller or a grammar expert. So, I doubt you have successfully established a motive to provoke the responses he gets. The fact is as the Bible would say, prophets get mocked at their homeplace and by their own people (to paraphrase). (Please do not resort to taking the word "prophets" literally. Replace "prophets" with "philosophers".) As much as I tend to disagree with Moonbeam's philosophy and sometimes do not comprehend what he is saying, I respect him for the way he treats people. If I were to go by my philosophy contradicting his, I would have disrespected him a thousand times by now. And lastly, whatever his motive for obscuring his words, albeit intentionally, it is part of creative thinking. Some philosophers or sages obscured their writings. So what?

 

[tcsenter]

How many of us would silently accept the name-calling (and name mangling) abuse that Moonbeam undergoes constantly?

Probably few, but who cares? If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

He talks $hit about other people - why can't we do the same to him?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: PSYWVic

Originally posted by: Kiyup
Well, all his posts say this with different wording:

"Love yourself and the world will have no problems"

Actually no.

Moonbeam's philosophy is typical of most pseudo-ultra liberal socialists. It is "You will give to those whom we decide are needy whether you want to or not." Of course, he deliberately frames it in a lot of flowery prose, big words, and psychobabble, so most people don't get it. Funny thing is, I don't think he gets it either. He thinks that needy people should be helped (which is admirable), and that the government should be the entity doing the helping (which is not but he can't seem to envision a world in which people help others without government enforcement), and so becomes very charitable with other people's money (via taxes) without realizing it.

No disrespect intended. It's just that his utopia is my Orwellian nightmare.

Well said....