To save Healthcare, let the sickest 20% die

JEDI

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80/20 rule of thumb:
20% of patients use 80% of health care resources
 

Svnla

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<screaming voices> Death Panel <screaming voices echo>

On the serious side, we can not continue the current status quot, it will bankrupt our nation if the healthcare cost keeps going up and up and up.

We need to get away from the metality "someone else is paying for it so I don't care, give me everything you got, Doc...damn the cost".
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Numerically you are correct.

Now let's suppose your 5 year old daughter is diagnosed with cancer. How pragmatic are you?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Carousel - all must die at age 65

That may one day happen. Not quite like the movie, but over time I can see people going on the air about the plight of the miserable elderly who cannot take care of themselves. We flash to video of people suffering from caregiver burnout. Then we see how poor grandpa was so vital, and now he doesn't remember where he is some days. Wouldn't it be a kindness to give the Ultimate Healing, where suffering ends. By heck, when we get to that state we should take the burden off our families and when we apply for a drivers license we check off a box saying that we agree to it.

After a few years we have a slight change. We have to opt out of euthanasia. Done right there could be such a social stigma that it becomes the norm.

Don't hurt the ones you love, make the brave choice.
 

drebo

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Better solution: take insurance companies and the government out of preventative care.
 

Siddhartha

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How about this, anyone who advocates denying anyone health care should have their own, and their families' health care cut first.
 

classy

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Carousel - all must die at age 65

Logans Run.

Seriously this is just an ignorant suggestion and don't ever post someone is sick in your family, because then I'll have to remind you of this post and suggest you let them die so we can save some money.






Dummy
 

Orignal Earl

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Tomorrow you will be telling me about how America is the greatest country in the world again, no matter how many going down the toilet threads are posted here today
 

Engineer

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How about this? If you can't afford it, you can't have it.

Should be for everything then. Can't afford to pave the street or street signs in front of your house or neighborhood, can't have them. Can't afford to pay the police or fire department when you need them, can't have them. Can't afford to pay for emergency National Guard services if your area is in disaster, can't have them. Can't afford to send your kids to school or cannot afford to pay for college yourself, can't do it. Why just stop at health care?
 
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Phokus

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On the bright side, getting rid of the sickest 20&#37; would mean that we get rid of a significant portion of the tea party on medicare.
 

iGas

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Numerically you are correct.

Now let's suppose your 5 year old daughter is diagnosed with cancer. How pragmatic are you?
I would let her died even those I love her, because fighting cancer isn't something many people want to go through. My dad had cancer and died from it with unsuccessful treatments and he was the one that request the stop treatment.

We could start with the right to die.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I would let her died even those I love her, because fighting cancer isn't something many people want to go through. My dad had cancer and died from it with unsuccessful treatments and he was the one that request the stop treatment.

We could start with the right to die.

So you have a diagnosis and quit on her. Game over eh?
 

Craig234

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How about this? If you can't afford it, you can't have it.

Sure - if this is in conjunction with economic reform so we don't have an oligarchy where most people can't afford much to protect the rich's interests.

Create flat wealth where everyone has enough to pay for healthcare, and then I'll support that.

Until then, no. The government providing healthcare is far more practical and moral.
 

Craig234

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How about this... if you have no insurance, stay away from the ER unless you are paying cash.

How about this - we give your belongings to 100 illegal immigrants and use you for fertilizing crops they pick and sell.

You want to defend economic injustice to the point of killing the poor, you deserve about the same amount of 'justice', none. Call their killing you self-defense.

(This is not literal. It is making a point about the immorality of the post it's responding to.)
 
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