I have coworkers who are season ticket holders who are working on securing supplies of empty perscription bottles to throw :laugh: :evil:
All I have to do is look at others who have suffered much more than him and have been able to go on and lead normal lives without having to try and off themselves to give me a reason to say T.O. is a crying little selfish bitch. That's right... bitch as in COWARD.
I stated before, the only way to change my mind is if some professional unbiased psychiatrist diagnoses him with a serious mental illness that has been undiagnosed and will require medication and therapy for years... not some 2 month vacation and I'm o.k. crap.
Hell, I've know I've had a harder life than T.O.
1) Never knew my father
2) Moved over 20 times in my childhood from one project to another
3) Had friends murdered
4) Lived in dirt poor poverty... sleeping on the floor, no food at times, no electricity or heat on many occassions, etc...
5) Didn't finish high school because of the ridiculous amount of times we moved since we were always getting evicted.
6) Lived in a garage and a van as a teenager... since we had no place to sleep
7) Brother locked up in prison
8) Mother diagnosed with leukemia
9) Other brother getting HIV
10) Having to take care of my brothers while mother worked in the immigrant fields picking oranges
I could go on.... but you know what, I don't need no sympathy from anyone. I'm here doing my best and don't need to off myself. Boo hoo... poor T.O.!
Now if he is really mentally ill, I WILL sympathize for him as that would make sense why he has been the way he's been over the years. If not too bad T.O. Man up and stop attention whoring. You got a kid... be a man and be there for him.
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sorry, we all believe the conspiracy theory that he tried killing himself. we don't buy the official statement.
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Whoozyerdaddy
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Like any of them would say he did.
You don't induce vomiting to save someone from an adverse reaction to meds. If you only took the prescribed dose then by the time you have the reaction the pills would have already been absorbed into your system. No need to induce vomiting. Nope. The only reason to pump a stomach is when you still have MANY undigested pills in your stomach.
Think about it...
*Ahem* the official statement was that he tried to kill himself. They don't just make sh*t up in police reports.
AMDZen
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Thats what makes this more hilarious.
The media are a bunch of douche bags. I mean, not to add to the hatred already here in this thread, but I have absolutely no respect for modern day media. That isn't to imply that I wouldn't have always had lack of respect for the press, only that I'm too young to comment on any other time period.
Again, you have also seen people who have suffered "less" than him commit suicide. Again you missed the whole point of my thread, you are not him and your overcoming tough obstacles is incredible but judging him based upon your own pyschological and life actions is not correct. You don't know what was going through his mind or what his private life is like so judging him based upon your life is what I am speaking against. Compassion is not about judging others based upon your life but emphasizing with them despite your life's actions and psychological constructs. TO may have done this as a publicity stunt or a serious call for help or a serious attempt at suicide or he may have simply had an allergic reaction but we cannot judge him based upon our own subjective criteria of what we would do or how we overcame life obstacles.
Can one commit suicide (or attempt it) by not having mental issues?
TraumaRN
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Terrell Eldorado Owens was born December 7, 1973, in Alexander City, Alabama. Terrell was the first son to his mother, Marilyn Heard. Only 17 at the time, she was the product of a dysfunctional family herself. Most of Marilyn's childhood was spent in fear and silence. Marilyn's mother, Alice, was cruel to her children, raising them in a confined environment with little love or support. Marilyn wasn't allowed to play with other children, and had to come home directly after school. If she didn't, she would pay the price in welts and bruises.
A man named L.C. Russell lived across the street with his wife and kids. Russell was 14 years older than Marilyn, but that didn't matter to either. She craved love and human contact, and he became the father of Terrell. Despite the awkward situation, Russell stayed in the neighborhood with his family.
Marilyn tried to keep her pregnancy a secret from her mother and stepfather, but could only do so for only so long. One night Marilyn's younger sister ran away to live with an aunt. She remained at home with Terrell, who was just a baby.
After Terrell, Marilyn had a girl named Latasha. She was married to the infant's father for a brief time. Then in the early 80's came two more babies?Sharmaine and Victor?fathered by another man.
Terrell often stayed with his grandmother Alice. She was as hard on him as she was on Marilyn. Alice gave him a bike but he could only ride it in the yard. Terrell was permitted no spare time with his friends and couldn't watch TV. He was also whipped regularly. For all the abuse, however, Terrell loved Alice, viewing her as a second mother.
When Terrell was young, Alice's marriage fell apart and she began drinking heavily. The youngster often had to take care of her until she sobered up. One time Alice was so intoxicated, she put her purse in the oven and burned up all her money. Ironically, Alice seemed to lighten up as her alcohol problem worsened. She even bought Terrell a go-cart, which they would drive on the highway.
When Terrell turned 12, he befriended a girl across the street. Her father noticed and confronted him, warning Terrell that the girl was actually his half-sister. Thus the youngster learned who his father was.
To escape his tortured home life, Terrell became immersed in sports. Basketball, baseball and swimming were his favorites. He also loved football, idolizing San Francisco star Jerry Rice. He played despite stark opposition from Alice. Marilyn, by contrast, supported her son completely, knowing sports made him happy.
Marilyn bounced from job to job, and often found herself back in Alice?s house with Terrell. Her other children hated it there, however, so she eventually moved with them into a beat-up two-bedroom home. Terrell stayed with Alice because there simply wasn?t room for him in the cramped dwelling.
Terrell?s athletic career began to blossom when he entered Benjamin Russell High School in the fall of 1988. During his career, he lettered four times in football and track. Plus he accumulated three letters in basketball and one in baseball. Terrell actually didn't start for the football team until his senior year. He even thought about quitting the sport, but his coaches talked him out of it. They say great talent in him, even if he didn?t yet.
Tall, lanky and exceedingly fast, Terrell had the skills to play Division I football. But recruiters were slow to scout him. In fact, many got their first look at him only because they were watching teammates who were also excellent prospects. Few schools pursued Terrell as aggressively as the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. The coaches there had no problem with Terrell becoming a multi-sport star. For the teenager, the opportunity to compete in more than one sport at the college level was a major selling point.
Source:http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Owens/Owens_bio.html
He may be an a$$hat, but you are being just as bad as him trying to play the one up game. The guy obviously has something wrong in the head. He needs help, and he needs to admit it, and he needs everyone to back off from him. All this attention is what can/will exacerbate a mental illness.
And you missed the whole point of my post.
See people kill or try to kill themselves because:
1) Mental Illness
2) Cry for help
3) Moment of weakness
If you aren't trying to kill yourself because of reason #1 than no excuse.
Reason #2 is aka attention whoring
Reason #3 is cowardice, stupid and selfish
bigdog1218
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DeathBUA made you look like an idiot in his previous post, you should probably stop posting in this thread.
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True in general, Mill, but there's a HUGE degree of specificity here:
Of course, given Owen's long history of non-histrionic behavior, I'm probably just being naive here.
As an aside, after the soothing balm of complete denial wears off, do you think Deeko's head will literally explode; and, more important, will there pics? :laugh:
They're interviewing Bill Parcells on ESPN right now; ESPN.com is also streaming it online.
So far, it's a total waste of time. Bill doesn't seem to know anything.
So far, it's a total waste of time. Bill doesn't seem to know anything.
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He knows his meddling, star-obsessed owner is an asshat of gargantuan proportions. Look in the lower left corner of the vid screen -- see the Jerry Jones vodoo doll with all those nasty looking pins stuck in and around the "scrotum area". Consider it a clue.
:roll: Thank you for your insight as its all clear to me now.
Now, in regards to DeathBUA's post, nice post. I guess I was wrong in that I had a harder life than T.O. We both have had very difficult roads, and in some ways he may have it harder with the stresses of fame. But that still doesn't mean jack UNTIL he is diagnosed with an illness. As I said, if he has a mental illness, than yes I will have some sympathy for him as mental illness requires therapy and in many cases medication. But if he did this just because he was stressed out then I stand my ground and say he's a coward and selfish.
He damn well knows what its like to have a fvcked up childhood and by doing what he is doing because of personal issues is being a jackass selfish prick to his own kid what was done to him.
By your statement, I can do the same sh1t and say "Oh, I had a screwed up childhood thats why I put my kids through hell too." :roll: um... NO, thats utter crap and an excuse to escape your responsibilities rather than man up and deal with them.
Read my posts again... if he has a mental illness I sympathize, if not too fvckin bad.. life is hard.
JulesMaximus
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