Time to Boycott UbiSoft and Blizzard! (Edit: UbiSoft caves and Daemon Tools gets around it anyway!!!!)

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Golgatha
irregardless

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

 

[BillGates]

Holy WTF

 

[konichiwa]

pfft

 

[anandfan]

sucks. I always try to use a virtual copy of the CD . ruined too many actual CDs. it would be OK if their program wouldn't run from a virtual CD, but the way they did it is just wrong. Microsoft did similar stuff back in DOS days to kill off the DOS-clones.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
They have the right do that if they wish. If it upsets you it's your right not to purchase their software.

That being said I won't be buying any of their games from now on. I should mention that I won't be pirating them either.

The point is they provided a patch not saying what it was going to do to your computer. If they had released the game with a clear warning that it would not run had you installed on of these programs, that'd be different.

What if with SP2 for XP MS disabled every system running on an AMD processor?

Blah, you got to that comment a few minutes before I was able to clarify it 😛 However, I completely agree with you.

 

[Wuffsunie]

Yeah, this is a load of overhanded crap. No way a company should be able to dictate the contents of the environment that their program runs on. Looking forward to hearing the customer backlash on this one. Good thing I don't have any interest in their games.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Golgatha
irregardless

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

I am not going to edit the post because it is a direct copy from evilavatar.com, which is the point I was trying to make all along. Let's please stay on topic, talk about fair use rights, and boycott UbiSoft.

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Golgatha
irregardless

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

I am not going to edit the post because it is a direct copy from evilavatar.com, which is the point I was trying to make all along. Let's please stay on topic, talk about fair use rights, and boycott UbiSoft.

Irrigardless of what clone, copy or whatever programs one might be running on their PC, UbiSoft has no right to do what they've done. People have a "legal" right to backup certain versions of their software. With this consideration in mind, UbiSoft is laying to their legitimate customers. Too bad they didn't use Vaseline before bending the customers over.

 

I'm sure this will change very quickly.

You can't piss off thousands of customers and expect them to keep your product.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Golgatha
irregardless

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

I am not going to edit the post because it is a direct copy from evilavatar.com, which is the point I was trying to make all along. Let's please stay on topic, talk about fair use rights, and boycott UbiSoft.

Dude, I'm on your side. It's a word. Chill.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: Thera
Yeah! You should be able to steal other people's hard work without being bothered! Damn them all! Grrrrr!!!

Head out of butt, please. There are legitimate uses for this software. I use it in software package development and creating backups for my legally owned games (I've lost too many originals to damage. If anyone wants to argue over my right to make backups, they can KMFA)

:beer:

 

[DaWhim]

someone gotta crack their patch.
anyways, why are you playing their sh*tty game?

 

[Actaeon]

Ubisoft still makes awesome games. While I disagree with this practice, I will still buy their products.

 

[SpiderX]

I have Daemon Tools installed and my game runs fine with the new patch.

 

[igowerf]

Quite honestly, I don't care. If I own and love the game, I don't mind the extra work it takes to put the CD in the CD-ROM drive. In fact, I would like for these software companies to protect their product even if it is at the slight inconvenience to a minority of their customers.
I think it's safe to say that most gamers don't have CD images of all their games on their hard drive, so UbiSoft isn't inconveniencing THAT many people.

I can't believe you guys would even think about litigation against a software developer that makes a game you love.

I might be one of the few people to say this, but I really don't mind any sort of copy protection scheme (Safe Disc 2, software activation, etc). It barely effects me, and since I keep all of my discs in good condition, I haven't needed a backup of any of my games.

 

[SpiderX]

Originally posted by: igowerf
Quite honestly, I don't care. If I own and love the game, I don't mind the extra work it takes to put the CD in the CD-ROM drive. In fact, I would like for these software companies to protect their product even if it is at the slight inconvenience to a minority of their customers.
I think it's safe to say that most gamers don't have CD images of all their games on their hard drive, so UbiSoft isn't inconveniencing THAT many people.

I can't believe you guys would even think about litigation against a software developer that makes a game you love.

I might be one of the few people to say this, but I really don't mind any sort of copy protection scheme (Safe Disc 2, software activation, etc). It barely effects me, and since I keep all of my discs in good condition, I haven't needed a backup of any of my games.

It's been said before though, what gives them a right to tell us what we can and can't have installed?

It doesn't lock you out if you're running an image supposedly, it locks you out regardless if you are playing legit with the disc in the drive.

 

[JackBurton]

Let's just say, what can be created my man, can be destroyed by man. 🙂

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: SpiderX

It's been said before though, what gives them a right to tell us what we can and can't have installed?

It doesn't lock you out if you're running an image supposedly, it locks you out regardless if you are playing legit with the disc in the drive.

Nothing gives them the right to police what we have installed on our computers, but it's hardly anything to sue over. People will complain and if UbiSoft is smart, they'll immediately release a new patch that doesn't have this protection.

It's unfortunate that a software developer would feel that it's necessary to use such means to protect their software though.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Golgatha
irregardless

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

ir·re·gard·less P Pronunciation Key (r-gärdls)
adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.

[Probably blend of irrespective, and regardless.]
Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.



Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: igowerf
Quite honestly, I don't care. If I own and love the game, I don't mind the extra work it takes to put the CD in the CD-ROM drive. In fact, I would like for these software companies to protect their product even if it is at the slight inconvenience to a minority of their customers.
I think it's safe to say that most gamers don't have CD images of all their games on their hard drive, so UbiSoft isn't inconveniencing THAT many people.

I can't believe you guys would even think about litigation against a software developer that makes a game you love.

I might be one of the few people to say this, but I really don't mind any sort of copy protection scheme (Safe Disc 2, software activation, etc). It barely effects me, and since I keep all of my discs in good condition, I haven't needed a backup of any of my games.

You've got to be shitting me. What, do you have like ONE game? I buy ALL my games but as soon I get them, I create an image file for them. I have an ass load of storage and swapping CD sucks my ass! If I want to play a game, I load the image in Deamon Tool and BAM, I'm playing the game. Screw looking all over for my CD. If you get out of the dark ages and use No-CD "patches" or just use the image, you'll never go back to swapping CDs. :disgust:

 

[sharkeeper]

The solution to this is obvious. (If you step on it, you break your mother's back! 😛 )

Anyways, I guess some people are connecting those rheobusses to their brains and cranking the pots WAAAAAY down low because...

(Don't try to run a 12V brain on 5V)

Cheers!

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: SpiderX

Originally posted by: igowerf
Quite honestly, I don't care. If I own and love the game, I don't mind the extra work it takes to put the CD in the CD-ROM drive. In fact, I would like for these software companies to protect their product even if it is at the slight inconvenience to a minority of their customers.
I think it's safe to say that most gamers don't have CD images of all their games on their hard drive, so UbiSoft isn't inconveniencing THAT many people.

I can't believe you guys would even think about litigation against a software developer that makes a game you love.

I might be one of the few people to say this, but I really don't mind any sort of copy protection scheme (Safe Disc 2, software activation, etc). It barely effects me, and since I keep all of my discs in good condition, I haven't needed a backup of any of my games.

It's been said before though, what gives them a right to tell us what we can and can't have installed?

It doesn't lock you out if you're running an image supposedly, it locks you out regardless if you are playing legit with the disc in the drive.

The problem is that some of those tools contain safedisk2 spikes. For safedisk to work with the 1.5 RvS CD you need to unload the tool. A bunch of folks here are getting very excited about something that's not really a big deal. The patch is not scanning your drive it's simply looking for safedisk... If you have a safedisk emulator loaded you'll get a failure.

It's amazing to me how all these advanced users will use a CD emulator instead of a No-CD crack. I guess it's easier for them to have a 650Mb CD image than a 250kb no-CD file.

Anyway... At least that's how I understand the problem. I'm sure a bunch of Elite sods will come swooping in here to correct me. 🙂

 

[Frodolives]

Without reading all of the replies, I can say that I learned to my satisfaction some time back that Ubisoft is not to be trusted or dealt with in any manner due to the way they exploited their customer base previously.

The way they mislead would be "beta" testers for a previous product in order to solicit new credit registrations was in my opinion nothing less than fraud.

Online gaming is getting bigger and bigger and lots of money to be made. I'm sure I'll end up paying money to someone for a good enough online community someday, but hopefully my money will be spent endorsing an honest company.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

nm

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Golgatha
irregardless

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

ir·re·gard·less P Pronunciation Key (r-gärdls)
adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.

[Probably blend of irrespective, and regardless.]
Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.



Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Mine was pulled from Merriam-Webster 2003.

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When in doubt, go with whatever's newer 😛

hehe

It's definitely a poorly formed word, but it's still a word. Of course it's not acceptable in formal writing, but there are many words that fit that description.