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Tim Cook is proud to be gay.

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Apple Of Sodom said:
Speaking as an average, middle-class raised white straight guy from the USA: minorities, perceived or not (gay, handicapped, black, native, whatever), care a whole lot more about their minority than most of the rest of us do.

I see things like this doing damage. People like me want to assimilate into a singular culture, a melting pot of all the good things we all bring, and then we have people standing out say "LOOK AT ME! I AM A <GAY|BLACK|FEMALE/> <CEO|ENTERTAINER|PLUMBER>! AREN'T I SO DIFFERENT AND PROUD?!"

Fucking A. Give it a rest and get back to living your life and everyone else will too.
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That's because everyone else's identity isn't neutral, it's Murrican, or whatever is usual for the region. Everyone is assumed to be that "whatever" until they say they aren't, so it follows that minorities would go out of their way to be clear about who they really are.
 
Iron Woode said:
nobody really cares who is gay or who isn't.

this need to blab it is just attention whoring.
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You'd be surprised. There are some people who really despise homosexuality. Some people even think that Katrina hit the Gulf Coast because of it.

Humanity is scary.
 
CountZero said:
It doesn't really matter what pride connotes to you since the use of proud (and pride) in this context isn't particularly new. To say you are proud that you are gay/white/female whatever is to say that regardless of what others think of that aspect of you you embrace it.

One word, two similar but different meanings. Not hard to comprehend.
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proud
proud/
adjective
adjective: proud; comparative adjective: prouder; superlative adjective: proudest

1.
feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's own achievements, qualities, or possessions or those of someone with whom one is closely associated.
"a proud grandma of three boys"
synonyms: pleased, glad, happy, delighted, joyful, overjoyed, thrilled, satisfied, gratified, content
"the proud parents beamed"
antonyms: ashamed
(of an event, achievement, etc.) causing someone to feel this way.
"we have a proud history of innovation"
synonyms: pleasing, gratifying, satisfying, cheering, heartwarming; More
happy, good, glorious, memorable, notable, red-letter
"a proud day"
antonyms: shameful
2.
having or showing a high or excessively high opinion of oneself or one's importance.
"a proud, arrogant man"
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It's called a dictionary. Words have meaning.
 
Aikouka said:
I look at the phrase as just being the opposite of being ashamed.

Although, it isn't surprising to see his comments. He recently came to Alabama and criticized the state's more "traditional ways". So, this sort of seems like a natural follow-up.
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loki8481 said:
I think the idea of pride in something like being gay is as a rejection of the all-too-common belief that it's something one should be ashamed of.
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I can see that.

I look forward to the time when nobody feels the need to be "proud" of these things because the default is to accept them, and nobody needs to feel ashamed.
 
Until the day you can come home to your parents and say you are gay not be worried if you'll be disowned or even killed. These kind of announcements will continue.
 
By the way, I cat front whiplash. When pen washing machines, this Frank uncontrollably.

Don't argue with me. I'm just choosing to use those words differently than you.
 
BoberFett said:
It's called a dictionary. Words have meaning.
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I don't like the way in which he used it either, when I think of being proud of something, I think of being proud of an accomplishment.

Still, he did use it correctly:

1. feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's own achievements, qualities, or possessions or those of someone with whom one is closely associated.

And jumping to quality:

2. a characteristic or feature that someone or something has

So he feels deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of his feature of being homosexual.
 
NikolaeVarius said:
We've known he was gay for a while.

I just don't get the idea of being "proud" about anything that you couldn't really control.

Being proud to be america/german/chinese/korean/gay/straight/trans. Makes absolutely no sense.
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It means such people are racist and prone to bigotry.
 
Eug said:
I guess he is truly "proud" but most people I know, gay or straight, aren't actually "proud" of whatever their sexual orientation may be. It just "is".
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For all those questioning why one would be proud of their sexual orientation:

Homosexuality is still the target of hatred, prejudice and discrimination. In a way that makes people keep their nature not just private, but secret. He's making a stand to give others courage to come out and not live secret lives. Just private, but still open lives.
 
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BoberFett said:
I know, right? Goddam facts, always getting in the way of emotion and feelings.
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Definitions are not true or false. They are common or uncommon. As such, it may be a fact that a definition of X is Y, it is not a fact that the definition of X is always and only Y.
 
Vdubchaos said:
WTH is this crap?

In order to be proud, one has to accomplish something in that regard.

Proud to be gay? You didn't really accomplish ANYTHING

It's no different than "proud to be American" or "proud to be <insert nationality>"

Why be proud of something that fell into your lap?
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This.
 
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