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SKORPI0

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agent00f

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People will look back on this thread the same way these people talked about them gays not long ago, and probably the blacks before the leftist PC police.

Some folks just can't help getting stuck on the wrong side of history, so it's understandable they learn to take pride in it.
 

nakedfrog

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You said I said homosexuals have an underlying mental disorder which I didn't. I do think that people who see themselves as one of 33 other gender flavors other than male or female do have a mental disorder however.
Why?
What you say is a good example of the confusion of issues. You see, the interesting question posed by Tinder's ridiculous spectrum is clearly one of masculine/feminine not male female. By referring to the man/woman dichotomy you completely ignore the issue of masculine feminine differences. One can be male but act like a woman. And vice versa. You are probably aware of that, however dimly.The latest twist are medical operations to change genitals to correspond with masculine/feminine preferences. Any more diversity ( the favorite word of all liberals who I actually think have a mental disease) is shit for brains nonsense. With all due respect, of course.
Latest twist? Pretty sure they've been doing reassignment surgeries for decades, bub.
It's pretty telling that you believe anyone that doesn't belong to your political persuasion has a mental disease. Says more about you than it does about them.
I think "outraged" is not what it is.

We are just calling stupid shit, stupid shit.
No, you've formed a baseless opinion, solely on gut reaction because "GODDAMMIT YER A MAN OR A WOMAN!"
I hope someone close to you comes out as gender non-conforming so maybe you'll have incentive to be understanding of this community.
 

Raduque

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What this argument boils down to, nakedfrog, is that some people believe gender should be solely based on physical sex/genitals, and that anything else is made up and exists only in the brain (which is why they say it's a mental illness).
 

nakedfrog

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What this argument boils down to, nakedfrog, is that some people believe gender should be solely based on physical sex/genitals, and that anything else is made up and exists only in the brain (which is why they say it's a mental illness).
Why can't it exist only in the brain (which is a pretty complex piece of organic machinery) and not be a mental illness? What ultimate difference does it make if it DOES exist only in the brain? What actual problem does it present to those who think it's "stupid shit", other than being mildly inconvenienced?
(And even calling it a mild inconvenience is overstating it, since by and large it won't impact their life)
Point is, even if it DOES exist only in the brain, then it DOES exist, and is not "made up". Folks in this thread are telling non-conforming gender individuals that the way they've felt for, in most cases, most of their life is "stupid shit" and "made up", when all they're asking for, in most cases, is to be treated politely.
 
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cbrunny

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I think the fear is that some are concerned normalizing of non-binary genders will encourage others, possibly young children, to espouse that they are also non-binary when in fact they are. Put another way, the fear is misdiagnosis, if I can put it that way. Ironically, I'd suggest a child has no idea if they're binary or non-binary, and an adult probably has no idea if their child is binary or non-binary. Not that there's a magic age of knowledge and introspection or anything.

Again, as I've said before, I don't think we know enough to know if the gender's binary/not-binary state of those around an individual is a true influence on an individuals gender's binary/not-binary state. And in the wake of not knowing, fill your boots.

I'm more than comfortable saying that sexual preference is non-binary. I've got no clue if gender is non-binary or not, but it has no impact on me and is absolutely not my place to tell anyone anything about themselves, so do whatever you want.
 

Ruptga

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It really is a stupid argument. Everything about our personalities exists only in the brain; few would argue that personal preferences, relationships, dreams, experiences, and even beliefs are all simply "made up", but for some reason the rules change when dicks get involved.
 

nakedfrog

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I think the fear is that some are concerned normalizing of non-binary genders will encourage others, possibly young children, to espouse that they are also non-binary when in fact they are. Put another way, the fear is misdiagnosis, if I can put it that way. Ironically, I'd suggest a child has no idea if they're binary or non-binary, and an adult probably has no idea if their child is binary or non-binary. Not that there's a magic age of knowledge and introspection or anything.

Again, as I've said before, I don't think we know enough to know if the gender's binary/not-binary state of those around an individual is a true influence on an individuals gender's binary/not-binary state. And in the wake of not knowing, fill your boots.

I'm more than comfortable saying that sexual preference is non-binary. I've got no clue if gender is non-binary or not, but it has no impact on me and is absolutely not my place to tell anyone anything about themselves, so do whatever you want.
My experience with this is that they can, sometimes at young ages (as young as five, or nine years old). It's true we have very little data on this, which is only natural since even just being non-heterosexual wasn't something you could just safely express until recently (and we still have a lot of road to travel even in that respect).
Yeah, we need to tread with care and not transition people to other genders with insufficient cause--but for many of these people, there's not even an expressed desire to transition completely, which mitigates some of the issue.
I do look forward to us having more information on this, but that's dependent on members of the community being available for study, and being treated as a medical curiosity isn't an appealing prospect for most people of any kind.
 

IronWing

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It really is a stupid argument. Everything about our personalities exists only in the brain; few would argue that personal preferences, relationships, dreams, experiences, and even beliefs are all simply "made up", but for some reason the rules change when dicks get involved.
And sky fairies, don't forget sky fairies. The rules are totally different for that type of belief.
 

Raduque

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Why can't it exist only in the brain (which is a pretty complex piece of organic machinery) and not be a mental illness? What ultimate difference does it make if it DOES exist only in the brain? What actual problem does it present to those who think it's "stupid shit", other than being mildly inconvenienced?
(And even calling it a mild inconvenience is overstating it, since by and large it won't impact their life)
Point is, even if it DOES exist only in the brain, then it DOES exist, and is not "made up". Folks in this thread are telling non-conforming gender individuals that the way they've felt for, in most cases, most of their life is "stupid shit" and "made up", when all they're asking for, in most cases, is to be treated politely.

The problem is, that alt-pronouns don't just want to be treated politely, they want to be treated special. They think they're important and they demand that everything change to suit them, when it really doesn't need to happen. Additionally, if you don't accommodate them, they freak out and go full retard sjw and scream that they're being harassed and oppressed. It's that tone and behavior of the alt-pronouns that turns everybody who isn't "ONE OF US" off their cause.
 

nakedfrog

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The problem is, that alt-pronouns don't just want to be treated politely, they want to be treated special. They think they're important and they demand that everything change to suit them, when it really doesn't need to happen. Additionally, if you don't accommodate them, they freak out and go full retard sjw and scream that they're being harassed and oppressed. It's that tone and behavior of the alt-pronouns that turns everybody who isn't "ONE OF US" off their cause.
This is bullshit. It's just like any other group where 1% of them are raging assholes.
Let me show you something.
The problem is, that Christians don't just want to be treated politely, they want to be treated special. They think they're important and they demand that everything change to suit them, when it really doesn't need to happen. Additionally, if you don't accommodate them, they freak out and go full retard bible-thumper and scream that they're being harassed and oppressed. It's that tone and behavior of the Christians that turns everybody who isn't "ONE OF US" off their cause.
Still 100% applicable with those minor tweaks.
 

Platypus

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Apr 26, 2001
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The problem is, that alt-pronouns don't just want to be treated politely, they want to be treated special. They think they're important and they demand that everything change to suit them, when it really doesn't need to happen. Additionally, if you don't accommodate them, they freak out and go full retard sjw and scream that they're being harassed and oppressed. It's that tone and behavior of the alt-pronouns that turns everybody who isn't "ONE OF US" off their cause.

I see this narrative all the time but it usually crumbles to pieces when you call people out on it. How many "alt-pronoun" people do you know personally or interact with? Because my friends in these categories and the countless people in these categories I've personally worked for years with act essentially the opposite of what you're saying. By belittling them, using terms like 'full retard' and 'SJW' it's quite convenient for you to dismiss an entire group of people that you likely have no personal experience with at all. Try talking to the people you callously discard sometime, it might make for an interesting exercise in understanding for you. Or just keep parroting complete and utter bullshit, whatever floats your boat.
 

Raduque

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I see this narrative all the time but it usually crumbles to pieces when you call people out on it. How many "alt-pronoun" people do you know personally or interact with? Because my friends in these categories and the countless people in these categories I've personally worked for years with act essentially the opposite of what you're saying. By belittling them, using terms like 'full retard' and 'SJW' it's quite convenient for you to dismiss an entire group of people that you likely have no personal experience with at all. Try talking to the people you callously discard sometime, it might make for an interesting exercise in understanding for you. Or just keep parroting complete and utter bullshit, whatever floats your boat.

If you want positive change, then you need to tell the people on TV and in news stories to stop acting the way I described, because that's the way the general public sees them.
 

Platypus

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If you want positive change, then you need to tell the people on TV and in news stories to stop acting the way I described, because that's the way the general public sees them.

The same could be said for any vocal minority... sadly no one can do anything about that realistically. You can change how you think and act about it though. That positive change is within reach.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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If you want positive change, then you need to tell the people on TV and in news stories to stop acting the way I described, because that's the way the general public sees them.

I would posit that you've chosen to see people the way you wish to, either because it's easier to follow the herd/authority than form your own opinions, or because it's how you actually feel, and are just looking to place the blame elsewhere when called out on it.