No Josh, you don't answer the questions - at least not properly, but then again, I'd expect nothing less from you.
What are you even talking about?
As to other problems, I think R600 has quite enough of them to be getting on with for the moment, don't you?
If that is the kind of rendering that it is doing on HL2 immediately
before its launch, then I'd have to say it's better than the G80's rendering of HL2 immediately
after its launch.
Hell, there's still
major rendering errors with certain games and the G80, and I don't see anyone else here blaming them on the card's specs such as temperature, overclocked cores, or "out of spec" memory. But low and behold, a spec of an error in a rendered frame drawn only by unreleased utilities and you're quick to the trigger with nothing but a load of crap for ammo.
As for the R600 having problems, all I'm going to say is that we're not sure if the R600 was delayed because of respins or delayed due to AMD's desire to launch more products together - or both for that matter. I wouldn't be surprised if it was delayed for being faulty, but I also wouldn't be surprised if AMD really
did want to launch more products together. Jumping on either theory is simply guessing.
When we start seeing images from more credible sources I'll look again, but the rendering error in that HL2 image is something I'm confident no-one has faked in photoshop.
Firstly, I never said it
was a photoshoped image.
Secondly, so you're answer is yes then? That tiny rendering error was all that you could find to serve as a derailment for this thread? A derailment that instead concentrated on the ridiculous launch of the G80 Ultra.
To reiterate, the OP's primary complaint was:
Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
What I'm pointing out is that I think it's a total farce a pure PR (public relations) for these companies to release the kind of information they want, when they want. I just think these moves imply that they think we're unbelievably stupid and we don't know what's going on. Come on, a SOFT LAUNCH to impress people with benchmarks? Come on.
While I don't totally agree, it does seem naive to think that gamers don't expect competition. The vendor doing the best wants to launch a card - however ridiculous of a card it be - to "steal" the competitor's "thunder". The G80 Ultra launching very close to the R600 is a prime example of this. Gamers know this, the other vendor knows this, and the vendor of preference
should know this too. However, the part that I don't agree with the OP on is that even if everyone's not stupid and knows what kind of cards will be launching, why does that mean they shouldn't continue to do it? If they
didn't launch a card simply for benchmarks with a limited availability, they wouldn't be carrying the status or the option for the best, however ridiculous it is. It's just that nVidia seems to have failed to "steal the thunder" from even their previous high-end card, the 8800 GTX.
While the Ultra fell short in that regard, the "previews" for the X2900XTX that I've seen were also a fall short from expectation. Whether or not it does perform well we shall see when the real reviews poor out.
Gstanfor, it's not that your claims may be wrong or right. I honestly don't know if that small rendering error could mean an overclocked core, unstable temperatures, or out of spec memory. But I don't
pretend to know either. A visual hiccup as small as that could also very well be a driver problem. Troubleshooting almost insignificant errors such as that can give you a wide range of possibilities. But clutching to a minor problem while ignoring
all others from a different manufacturer is what is annoying about you. That and the fact that you are merely clutching to that problem to distract from nVidia's recent launch.
Also, the mere fact that a simple artifact like that was all that website could find, I think that's rather a
good sign considering the normal attributes with new hardware and new drivers. After all, it
could be worse. And that small of a problem is negligible.
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