This needs to be settled, once and for all.

[Zee]

it's 3.14 dammit

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Zee
it's 3.14 dammit

 

[mpitts]

Pie

 

[DanTMWTMP]

damn I LOOOOVE Cheesecake. I can't resist it. But really, it's more of a pie than anything else. I've always considered it a pie. Cheesepie? haha.

 

[FDF12389]

Got to culinary school guys. I'm laughing so hard right now.

You know that Pie is a type of cake right?

 

[MBrown]

Its a pie.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Wikipedia says its cake so there!

Actually its not made in a pie pan, therefor not pie.

What a shock to find Wikipedia wrong once again.

It's a pie because it does not rise like a cake does and it has a crust that is filled. Cakes do not have crusts.

It has a base, it does not have a 'crust'.

Hm, yes, a crust must extend from the bottom to cover the sides, I believe.

Real cheese cake does NOT have a crust. The crust is just burnt filling. Now some people pass of other things as cheesecake, with various types of crust, but the real thing doesnt.


Cheesecake isnt really a pie or a cake. Cheesecake is more similiar to custards than cakes or pies.

 

[LaBella]

key lime pie

 

[Howard]

cake voters are stupid

Also, they've been lied to.

 

[daveshel]

Thus the flaw with Aristotilian logic: A may be B and may also be C.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
Got to culinary school guys. I'm laughing so hard right now.

You know that Pie is a type of cake right?

+1 for cake.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: FDF12389
Got to culinary school guys. I'm laughing so hard right now.

You know that Pie is a type of cake right?

+1 for cake.

Exactly.

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Wikipedia says its cake so there!

Actually its not made in a pie pan, therefor not pie.

What a shock to find Wikipedia wrong once again.

It's a pie because it does not rise like a cake does and it has a crust that is filled. Cakes do not have crusts.

It has a base, it does not have a 'crust'.

Hm, yes, a crust must extend from the bottom to cover the sides, I believe.

Also, it's not a pastry "crust" but usually graham crackers or cookies.

Is an ice cream cake a cake or pie? It doesn't rise.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Wikipedia says its cake so there!

Actually its not made in a pie pan, therefor not pie.

What a shock to find Wikipedia wrong once again.

It's a pie because it does not rise like a cake does and it has a crust that is filled. Cakes do not have crusts.

It has a base, it does not have a 'crust'.

Hm, yes, a crust must extend from the bottom to cover the sides, I believe.

Also, it's not a pastry "crust" but usually graham crackers or cookies.

Is an ice cream cake a cake or pie? It doesn't rise.

Ice cream cake is an ABOMINATION in the eyes of the LORD. It is unclean, and have it not in thy presence.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Wikipedia says its cake so there!

Actually its not made in a pie pan, therefor not pie.

What a shock to find Wikipedia wrong once again.

It's a pie because it does not rise like a cake does and it has a crust that is filled. Cakes do not have crusts.

It has a base, it does not have a 'crust'.

Hm, yes, a crust must extend from the bottom to cover the sides, I believe.

Also, it's not a pastry "crust" but usually graham crackers or cookies.

Is an ice cream cake a cake or pie? It doesn't rise.

READ MY POST

Originally posted by: FDF12389
You know that Pie is a type of cake right?

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Wikipedia says its cake so there!

Actually its not made in a pie pan, therefor not pie.

What a shock to find Wikipedia wrong once again.

It's a pie because it does not rise like a cake does and it has a crust that is filled. Cakes do not have crusts.

It has a base, it does not have a 'crust'.

Hm, yes, a crust must extend from the bottom to cover the sides, I believe.

Also, it's not a pastry "crust" but usually graham crackers or cookies.

Is an ice cream cake a cake or pie? It doesn't rise.

READ MY POST

Originally posted by: FDF12389
You know that Pie is a type of cake right?

Your claim is that pie is a subset of cake. That doesn't answer the question as to which set either belong.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Wikipedia says its cake so there!

Actually its not made in a pie pan, therefor not pie.

What a shock to find Wikipedia wrong once again.

It's a pie because it does not rise like a cake does and it has a crust that is filled. Cakes do not have crusts.

It has a base, it does not have a 'crust'.

Hm, yes, a crust must extend from the bottom to cover the sides, I believe.

Also, it's not a pastry "crust" but usually graham crackers or cookies.

Is an ice cream cake a cake or pie? It doesn't rise.

READ MY POST

Originally posted by: FDF12389
You know that Pie is a type of cake right?

Your claim is that pie is a subset of cake. That doesn't answer the question as to which set either belong.

Its a cake.

 

[sactoking]

"Cheesecake" is neither pie nor cake, but custard.

From dictionary.com:
cake /ke?k/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[keyk] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, caked, cak·ing.
?noun
1. a sweet, baked, breadlike food, made with or without shortening, and usually containing flour, sugar, baking powder or soda, eggs, and liquid flavoring.
2. a flat, thin mass of bread, esp. unleavened bread.
3. pancake; griddlecake.
4. a shaped or molded mass of other food: a fish cake.
5. a shaped or compressed mass: a cake of soap; a cake of ice.

"Cheesecake" is not 'breadlike'. "Cheesecake" is not akin to unleavened bread. "Cheesecake" is not akin to a pancake. It is not molded from other food. It is not a compressed mass. "Cheesecake" is not cake.

pie1 /pa?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
1. a baked food having a filling of fruit, meat, pudding, etc., prepared in a pastry-lined pan or dish and often topped with a pastry crust: apple pie; meat pie.
2. a layer cake with a filling of custard, cream jelly, or the like: chocolate cream pie.

"Cheesecake" is not prepared in a pastry-lined pan. It is, by definition already, not a cake. "Cheesecake" is not a pie.

cus·tard /'k?st?rd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhs-terd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
a dessert made of eggs, sugar, and milk, either baked, boiled, or frozen.

"Cheesecake" is a CUSTARD!

(Also, the tomato is a FRUIT, etymologically speaking. Just b/c the Supreme Court voted it a legal vegetable for interstate taxation reasons does not change the facts.)

 

[cherrytwist]

Originally posted by: sactoking
"Cheesecake" is neither pie nor cake, but custard.

From dictionary.com:
cake /ke?k/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[keyk] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, caked, cak·ing.
?noun
1. a sweet, baked, breadlike food, made with or without shortening, and usually containing flour, sugar, baking powder or soda, eggs, and liquid flavoring.
2. a flat, thin mass of bread, esp. unleavened bread.
3. pancake; griddlecake.
4. a shaped or molded mass of other food: a fish cake.
5. a shaped or compressed mass: a cake of soap; a cake of ice.

"Cheesecake" is not 'breadlike'. "Cheesecake" is not akin to unleavened bread. "Cheesecake" is not akin to a pancake. It is not molded from other food. It is not a compressed mass. "Cheesecake" is not cake.

pie1 /pa?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
1. a baked food having a filling of fruit, meat, pudding, etc., prepared in a pastry-lined pan or dish and often topped with a pastry crust: apple pie; meat pie.
2. a layer cake with a filling of custard, cream jelly, or the like: chocolate cream pie.

"Cheesecake" is not prepared in a pastry-lined pan. It is, by definition already, not a cake. "Cheesecake" is not a pie.

cus·tard /'k?st?rd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhs-terd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
a dessert made of eggs, sugar, and milk, either baked, boiled, or frozen.

"Cheesecake" is a CUSTARD!

(Also, the tomato is a FRUIT, etymologically speaking. Just b/c the Supreme Court voted it a legal vegetable for interstate taxation reasons does not change the facts.)

Your rhetoric has no place here.

Cake or pie.

Choose one.

 

[Albatross]

:laugh:

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: sactoking
"Cheesecake" is neither pie nor cake, but custard.

From dictionary.com:
cake /ke?k/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[keyk] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, caked, cak·ing.
?noun
1. a sweet, baked, breadlike food, made with or without shortening, and usually containing flour, sugar, baking powder or soda, eggs, and liquid flavoring.
2. a flat, thin mass of bread, esp. unleavened bread.
3. pancake; griddlecake.
4. a shaped or molded mass of other food: a fish cake.
5. a shaped or compressed mass: a cake of soap; a cake of ice.

"Cheesecake" is not 'breadlike'. "Cheesecake" is not akin to unleavened bread. "Cheesecake" is not akin to a pancake. It is not molded from other food. It is not a compressed mass. "Cheesecake" is not cake.

pie1 /pa?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
1. a baked food having a filling of fruit, meat, pudding, etc., prepared in a pastry-lined pan or dish and often topped with a pastry crust: apple pie; meat pie.
2. a layer cake with a filling of custard, cream jelly, or the like: chocolate cream pie.

"Cheesecake" is not prepared in a pastry-lined pan. It is, by definition already, not a cake. "Cheesecake" is not a pie.

cus·tard /'k?st?rd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhs-terd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
a dessert made of eggs, sugar, and milk, either baked, boiled, or frozen.

"Cheesecake" is a CUSTARD!

(Also, the tomato is a FRUIT, etymologically speaking. Just b/c the Supreme Court voted it a legal vegetable for interstate taxation reasons does not change the facts.)

No, just because cheesecake includes those ingredients does not make it a custard. Is a birthday cake a custard too? It has eggs milk and sugar, and its baked!

Cheese cake is a cake. End of story.

Pies use crust to contain filling, a cake does not.

 

[sactoking]

I choose Fig Newtons. They're not a cookie, they're fruit and cake!

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: sactoking
I choose Fig Newtons. They're not a cookie, they're fruit and cake!

No there a company that makes fig bars, which are a type of biscuit.

 

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
No, just because cheesecake includes those ingredients does not make it a custard. Is a birthday cake a custard too? It has eggs milk and sugar, and its baked!

Cheese cake is a cake. End of story.

Pies use crust to contain filling, a cake does not.

But the fact that cheesecake is ONLY eggs, sugar, dairy, and cream cheese (with a dash of vanilla) makes it a custard.

Heh, to warp a quote from the P&N forum: "Saying cheesecake is a cake is like saying that being First Lady yields Executive Branch experience!"

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: cherrytwist

Originally posted by: sactoking
"Cheesecake" is neither pie nor cake, but custard.

From dictionary.com:
cake /ke?k/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[keyk] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, caked, cak·ing.
?noun
1. a sweet, baked, breadlike food, made with or without shortening, and usually containing flour, sugar, baking powder or soda, eggs, and liquid flavoring.
2. a flat, thin mass of bread, esp. unleavened bread.
3. pancake; griddlecake.
4. a shaped or molded mass of other food: a fish cake.
5. a shaped or compressed mass: a cake of soap; a cake of ice.

"Cheesecake" is not 'breadlike'. "Cheesecake" is not akin to unleavened bread. "Cheesecake" is not akin to a pancake. It is not molded from other food. It is not a compressed mass. "Cheesecake" is not cake.

pie1 /pa?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
1. a baked food having a filling of fruit, meat, pudding, etc., prepared in a pastry-lined pan or dish and often topped with a pastry crust: apple pie; meat pie.
2. a layer cake with a filling of custard, cream jelly, or the like: chocolate cream pie.

"Cheesecake" is not prepared in a pastry-lined pan. It is, by definition already, not a cake. "Cheesecake" is not a pie.

cus·tard /'k?st?rd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhs-terd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
a dessert made of eggs, sugar, and milk, either baked, boiled, or frozen.

"Cheesecake" is a CUSTARD!

(Also, the tomato is a FRUIT, etymologically speaking. Just b/c the Supreme Court voted it a legal vegetable for interstate taxation reasons does not change the facts.)

Your rhetoric has no place here.

Cake or pie.

Choose one.

I think he chose "or death"