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repoman0 said:
You first. Go run around an ICU ward and lick a couple patients so you understand what you want to sign people up for before volunteering the health of the nation for them. Maybe you’ll live, maybe not, maybe permanent organ damage if you do, maybe not *shrug*
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I'm trying to get an antibody test for it today, because I think that I already had it back in February. I need doctor approval, though, and my doctor is a hardass 🙂
 
repoman0 said:
You first. Go run around an ICU ward and lick a couple patients so you understand what you want to sign people up for before volunteering the health of the nation for them. Maybe you’ll live, maybe not, maybe permanent organ damage if you do, maybe not *shrug*
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This is quite possibly the dumbest... most asinine argument (if you can even call it that) ever.
 
ultimatebob said:
I'm trying to get an antibody test for it today, because I think that I already had it back in February. I need doctor approval, though, and my doctor is a hardass 🙂
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Let me know how that goes, I've wanted to do the same but figure that right now the antibody test is probably like pulling teeth to get.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Working in local government where change hardly exists, myself and my staff are WFH and are able to get 100% of our duties done. Rumor is we'll be going back to the office around the 1st, and my staff is scaredand doesn't really see the point of having to go back. I don't either tbh. Knowing how the county is though, they'll require us to go back, and open the building to the public within a week with little to no protective measures taken.

Oh, we'll have sneeze guards at our front counter...
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No surprise here
 
There were a couple walls-o-text responses I admit I didn't read. But do these alternate schedules for schools have a good plan for dealing with households with multiple kids? Say one kid is on the "a" schedule, and one is on the "b" and one happens to contract The 'Rona. That's going to end up getting back to the other group. I applaud the out of the box thinking, but real word outcomes seem like they would hard to achieve.
 
vi edit said:
There were a couple walls-o-text responses I admit I didn't read. But do these alternate schedules for schools have a good plan for dealing with households with multiple kids? Say one kid is on the "a" schedule, and one is on the "b" and one happens to contract The 'Rona. That's going to end up getting back to the other group. I applaud the out of the box thinking, but real word outcomes seem like they would hard to achieve.
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Yeah, I want to know how it supposed to work when my kid gets put on the "a" schedule for coming into school and my wife and I get put on the "b" schedule for coming into work.

Something tells me that the government isn't going to volunteer to pay for my day care services if that happens.
 
SaltyNuts said:
I will laugh last and best. And you are right, I've been smoking some serious shit.... its called REALITY. Not some media-infused hype-job. 1 year = things 99.9% back to normal and everyone wondering why the FUK we shot ourselves in the stomach so bad.
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Well, gotta say, your take on things is just way way out there and contradicts everything, all the news, the experts, all the shit happening. I apologize for you losing your life, having to put up with it all closing down, must be hard, tough for you to come to terms with.

In terms of your epidemiological savvy, you are completely FAIL.
 
I think a lot of people just don't get it. This isn't a bad cold which most people seem to think is 'the flu' Real flu flattens you for a week. Stories from people who actual have got this disease should scare you even if you live. Its not something you really want to live through. That's not even getting into long term complications. Sure we could just say F' it and accept 1% or more will die. But consider that's over 3 million people in the US alone. If we let it run wild that number probably gets worse. "mild" cases are defined as 'did not require hospitalization' There is a lot of range for it super miserable for lots of people. If you're eager for your immunity, go to the hospital and lick some patients. I'm not ready to throw people like my parent under the bus though.
 
Midwayman said:
I think a lot of people just don't get it. This isn't a bad cold which most people seem to think is 'the flu' Real flu flattens you for a week. Stories from people who actual have got this disease should scare you even if you live. Its not something you really want to live through. That's not even getting into long term complications. Sure we could just say F' it and accept 1% or more will die. But consider that's over 3 million people in the US alone. If we let it run wild that number probably gets worse. "mild" cases are defined as 'did not require hospitalization' There is a lot of range for it super miserable for lots of people. If you're eager for your immunity, go to the hospital and lick some patients. I'm not ready to throw people like my parent under the bus though.
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People screaming about the economy and that we should just open everything up don't realize that millions dead will make the past few months seem not so bad.
 
It's more than death rates. It's overall stress to our health care system. For every one person that dies, there's endless others that are in an ICU for days/weeks on end. They just end up as a statistic as "recovered". But that doesn't tell the tale of how much stress that puts on our system that wasn't built to handle surges or the economic impact on the patient to pay the bills or the staff at the hospital that have to care for all of these patients or the family that isn't getting income if someone is sick in a hospital.

It's more than just death rates.
 
Mai72 said:
No! YOU don't get it. This all Bill Gates doing. He is part of the illumanti and wants to give us the needle! THE NEEDLE!

You can tell by his eyes. They never lie. 🙁
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Bill Gates' vaccine is probably safe, but you will want to wait about a year or two for it to become stable and all the issues ironed out before you get it.
 
vi edit said:
There were a couple walls-o-text responses I admit I didn't read. But do these alternate schedules for schools have a good plan for dealing with households with multiple kids? Say one kid is on the "a" schedule, and one is on the "b" and one happens to contract The 'Rona. That's going to end up getting back to the other group. I applaud the out of the box thinking, but real word outcomes seem like they would hard to achieve.
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It's complex epidemiologically. They said Austria is implementing something like what they're explaining.

Back in February it seemed to be possible to have some grip on what-all was going on with covid-19, but it's continued to get more and more complicated. Now, it's beyond the ken of an individual. There's just way too much. They say that the number of vaccines in development/testing/etc. is in the triple digits already! Seems like it's going to get more complicated before it simplifies. One vaccine emerging as a winner would really help. Also, antibody testing that's reliable, accurate, and able to be produced and launched on wide scales would be huge. Meantime, juggling dealing with the sick while trying to keep "the economy" alive will be major.
 
ultimatebob said:
I'm trying to get an antibody test for it today, because I think that I already had it back in February. I need doctor approval, though, and my doctor is a hardass 🙂
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I know exactly one person who has been successful getting an antibody test and they are a sub-contractor for the Navy.

Wouldn't be surprised If I had it back in that time-frame as well. As I've mentioned on here before my drivers were meeting at least 15-20 flights a day from China all through Jan/Feb.
 
Captante said:
I know exactly one person who has been successful getting an antibody test and they are a sub-contractor for the Navy.

Wouldn't be surprised If I had it back in that time-frame as well. As I've mentioned on here before my drivers were meeting at least 15-20 flights a day from China all through Jan/Feb.
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I got the blood test today, now I just wait for the results...
 
vi edit said:
It's more than death rates. It's overall stress to our health care system. For every one person that dies, there's endless others that are in an ICU for days/weeks on end. They just end up as a statistic as "recovered". But that doesn't tell the tale of how much stress that puts on our system that wasn't built to handle surges or the economic impact on the patient to pay the bills or the staff at the hospital that have to care for all of these patients or the family that isn't getting income if someone is sick in a hospital.

It's more than just death rates.
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.... Whats putting stress on our hospitals right now is that they are empty.

Majority of hospitals in the US are at less than half capacity. No one is getting elective surgery - and are even limited on needed surgeries as well.
 
snoopy7548 said:
People screaming about the economy and that we should just open everything up don't realize that millions dead will make the past few months seem not so bad.
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Nothing about "open everything up" translates to

stop washing your hands.
stop social distancing.
rub your balls up against the person in front of you in line while coughing over their neck.
start touching your face, mouth, and eyes constantly while walking in public.
definitely don't use hand sanitizer
make sure to massively pack together in crowded places
old people DEFINITELY go out and have fun
vulnerable people (obese, high blood pressure, weak immune systems) DEFINITELY go out and party as well.


But for some reason folks here think it means go full retard.

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The fact of the matter is that this virus will not disappear. It won't. It isn't magically going away if we just wait another 6 months.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
.... Whats putting stress on our hospitals right now is that they are empty.

Majority of hospitals in the US are at less than half capacity. No one is getting elective surgery - and are even limited on needed surgeries as well.
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Because of precautions and lockdowns, yeah hospitals are low census. Many areas successfully flattened the curve that leads to surges. This vacancy isn't happening in a vacuum. That was the intent. The alternative is 5,000 NYC's with refrigerator trucks outside most major hospitals to hold the bodies the morgue couldn't.
 
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