"This is Our Tsunami"

stephenw22

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'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


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The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


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The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.


Since people had time to evacuate the death count may not be as high...but the destruction sure looks to be as bad if not worse.
 

PatboyX

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yeah...o&a spent the morning yesterday talking about all the BS coverage of it.
MSNBC seemed to have the most sane.
drew curtis was on helping out...so im sure fark would have some of the same critics over there.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Natural disasters are certainly terrible but IMHO . . . the English language (and in this case Japanese) is thoroughly abused on a daily basis.

Words of significance no longer have significance b/c every moron and his uncle has to break out a thesaurus and then proceed to exaggerate.

 

stephenw22

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I think that the destruction was bad and all, but I mean, come on! What genius thought that it was a good place for a city?

A city below sea level? A system of levies and pumps to keep the city dry? For a city that is on the gulf coast?

This almost seems too idiotic to be true. If I were an insurance company, there's no way I'd insure anyone who lived in that kind of a place. It's like people who would live in a trailer park in FL, or in a place in Cali that isn't at least a little earthquake-resistant. Or, people who live in the mountians who complain when there's a forest fire that burns their place down.
 

desy

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Global warming is going to make it worse.
I wouldn't let them rebuild on anything that was 100% writeoff.
Just like the idiots who build in the hundred yr flood plain. Well its not supposed to flood for a hundred years? yes but eventually there will BE A FLOOD and it doesn't mean every 100 like clockwork it might be two between 20 yrs and then maybe 150 yrs its a rough guestimate. .
People , sheesh
 

joshw10

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cant get more sensationalist than Fox for this...they love it

dont forget though - American lives are 1000x more important than the natives who died in the tsunami. So Katrina could be as bad as the tsunami. Sort of like how 30,000 children die every day in Africa but 9/11 was the greatest tragedy ever. It's the same state of mind.

good luck to all those hurt by the storm
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


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The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.

You are going to get your panties in a bunch over this?

btw he is right, this is our Tsunami.

When we have natural disasters the death toll can be counted on a few hand. When it happens in a 3rd world country the numbers reach into the thousands.

For the United States standard it is our tsunami.

 

Vic

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There's a kind of sick immorality in measuring disasters by the death toll. A single death is sufficient as, to that person who died, it was the end of the world.
 

Starbuck1975

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What genius thought that it was a good place for a city?
The French I believe. Didn't we claim New Orleans after the Louisiana Purchase.

Cities typically emerged along waterways back in the day as that was the primary means of transportation and trade until railroads came along.

New Orleans was in an ideal location for supporting trade as a colony of French imperialism. Unfortunately, the network of levees developed to tame the Mississippi River has also contributed to the erosion of the wetlands that have served as the natural protective barrier between New Orleans and rain related flooding.
 

Cruise51

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


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The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.


Since people had time to evacuate the death count may not be as high...but the destruction sure looks to be as bad if not worse.

Even trying to compare the destruction of the tsunami to a hurricane is a crime.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


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The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.
Dude its some mayor from BILOXI. What do you expect?

A lot of the people down there are morons including the Sheriffs.

And before you people get all riled up - don't worry I still donated to help your lame asses :)
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Vic
There's a kind of sick immorality in measuring disasters by the death toll. A single death is sufficient as, to that person who died, it was the end of the world.
Yea because 230,000 is the same as 100.

It was the end of the world for a lot more people in Asia. Typical though, nothing unexpected here.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


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The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.
Dude its some mayor from BILOXI. What do you expect?

A lot of the people down there are morons including the Sheriffs.

And before you people get all riled up - don't worry I still donated to help your lame asses :)

I don't give a damn if you donated $10K, why do you feel the need to sterotype those of us from Mississippi...including me?

I don't why I'm expecting any less, since you are from Maryland.
 

stephenw22

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If it were an earthquake, I'd agree that it could be the equivalent of a tsunami. Maybe even if it were a tornado or volcano.

But, how many days in advance did people know about the hurricane? Shelters were set up, and anyone who couldn't make it on their own got help from rescuers.

There's no valid reason that anyone had to die from this storm.

If someone told me that an F5 tornado was going to hit my town in three days, I'd have everything packed up and I'd be ready to bolt on a moment's notice. I'd prep my house and do my best to organize in advance for an extensive clean-up. If I could, I'd take a few days off work and get the hell outta' Dodge, so to speak.

If I lived in an area that was regularly hit by huge storms, I'd have an extensive emergency preparedness plan in place. As it stands today, my family has a plan in case of an immediate (1 minute), upcoming (1 hour), or near-term (1-2 days) evacuation order, which includes provisions for food, shelter, fuel, and clothing. We've prepared for any of several disasters that could possibly happen in our area - grass fires, tornado / major wind storm, and flooding.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
pure media sensationalism, even in the face of disaster.


well the guy is talking about his own town, which might be messed up beyond belief.
 

OrByte

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wow I am actually an embarassed american over such a stupid comment

"This is our Tsunami"

:eek:

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Vic
There's a kind of sick immorality in measuring disasters by the death toll. A single death is sufficient as, to that person who died, it was the end of the world.
Yea because 230,000 is the same as 100.

It was the end of the world for a lot more people in Asia. Typical though, nothing unexpected here.
Like I said, a sick immorality. How less tragic is the death of one to that one? 230k deaths is still just 230k deaths of one. The ultimate tragedy is still just the death of one, regardless of how many "ones" died en masse. This is not the kind of thing that can be weighed -- the scale tips beginning with the first. Just how heartless are you that you can't see this simple fact?
 

sandorski

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It can be compared and it can not. I lean towards "can not", but for those who have to deal with it, I'd wager they'd say it "can".
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Vic
There's a kind of sick immorality in measuring disasters by the death toll. A single death is sufficient as, to that person who died, it was the end of the world.
Yea because 230,000 is the same as 100.

It was the end of the world for a lot more people in Asia. Typical though, nothing unexpected here.
Like I said, a sick immorality. How less tragic is the death of one to that one? 230k deaths is still just 230k deaths of one. The ultimate tragedy is still just the death of one, regardless of how many "ones" died en masse. This is not the kind of thing that can be weighed -- the scale tips beginning with the first. Just how heartless are you that you can't see this simple fact?
What the....

Just forget it dude. Forget it.

You really are heartless and have never seen real horror.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
What the....

Just forget it dude. Forget it.

You really are heartless and have never seen real horror.
155,000 people die on average every single day. That's 1.8 deaths every single second. Are their deaths less horrific because they occur singly and not en masse? Because you're saying that they are. Oh yeah, I'm heartless... :roll:
 

stephenw22

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IMO, the deaths caused by the tsunami were tragic because it was a sudden and huge loss of life, who had no idea that this would be happening. This kind of event had never happened there before. (at least from what I remember hearing)

The deaths from the hurricane aren't tragic, they're idiotic. People had DAYS to move out of the way of the hurricane, but they still chose to be stubborn and not evacuate. I feel as much pity for them as I feel for the people who refused to evacuate Mt. St.Helens before it erupted.

It's sad that there was any loss of life, but it would have been so easy for them to just find better shelter or leave town.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
IMO, the deaths caused by the tsunami were tragic because it was a sudden and huge loss of life, who had no idea that this would be happening. This kind of event had never happened there before. (at least from what I remember hearing)

The deaths from the hurricane aren't tragic, they're idiotic. People had DAYS to move out of the way of the hurricane, but they still chose to be stubborn and not evacuate. I feel as much pity for them as I feel for the people who refused to evacuate Mt. St.Helens before it erupted.

It's sad that there was any loss of life, but it would have been so easy for them to just find better shelter or leave town.
I rest my case.