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"This is Our Tsunami"

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


...

The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

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Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.
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Days?

It wasn't a Cat 5 until less than 24hrs before landfall. It wasn't predicted to hit that far west until late on Friday.

And, what are the people who have no car, no money, medical problems, etc. supposed to do? Sprout wings?
 
Originally posted by: joshw10
cant get more sensationalist than Fox for this...they love it

dont forget though - American lives are 1000x more important than the natives who died in the tsunami. So Katrina could be as bad as the tsunami. Sort of like how 30,000 children die every day in Africa but 9/11 was the greatest tragedy ever. It's the same state of mind.

good luck to all those hurt by the storm
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That about sums it up, Americans >> Others.
 
nobody is worried abt the morons that stayed in the city to ride the storm out. the main worry is the people that evacuated and have to come back to this destruction and now
looting. anybody that cannot see this tragedy is a simple minded son of a %itch.
 
Originally posted by: slyedog
nobody is worried abt the morons that stayed in the city to ride the storm out. the main worry is the people that evacuated and have to come back to this destruction and now
looting. anybody that cannot see this tragedy is a simple minded son of a %itch.
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No ones not saying its a tragedy.

Its just plain stupid to compare it to the Tsunami though.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


...

The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

...



Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.
Click to expand...
Days?

It wasn't a Cat 5 until less than 24hrs before landfall. It wasn't predicted to hit that far west until late on Friday.

And, what are the people who have no car, no money, medical problems, etc. supposed to do? Sprout wings?
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So it wasn't dangerous as a cat 3 or cat 4? As soon as I hear about ANY kind of thunderstorm warning for my area, I'm on the weather band, listening for the most current forecast. People need to take more responsibility here for staying informed on what is going on around them. A radio costs what? $3? $4?

No car? You should have planned in advance to get a ride with someone who has a car. Or, take the bus/plane/train/etc. Or, find out where there is a shelter you can stay at, and have plans to be able to get there in a hurry.

No money? Then you are a moron. You should have been saving some money over the last several years for something like this. I make sure that I have enough cash on hand for emergencies, in case the bank machines go down over a long weekend or something. I also keep a separate no-fee account with a 'rainy-day fund' for emergency use. I put $2/week into it before I was married, and now I put $5/week into it. It took a few years, but now I know that I'm covered if I have emergency expenses (uncovered medical/dental, unemployment, etc.)

Medical Problems? You should have made plans in advance, and knew where you could go. You should have had an extra supply of medication or other supplies that could get you through an emergency.

In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
 
Originally posted by: stephenw22
In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
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Couldn't you say this about those affected by the tsunami, as well?

Wait - that doesn't prove your point.
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: stephenw22
In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
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Couldn't you say this about those affected by the tsunami, as well?

Wait - that doesn't prove your point.
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There was no warning for the Tsunami. It came incredibly fast - at speeds approaching 600 mph. There was almost nothing Indonesia could do and Thailand didn't send out a warning cause they didn't want to harm western tourist revenue.
 
Originally posted by: stephenw22
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: stephenw22
'This is out tsunami' (CBC News article)


...

The storm inflicted catastrophic damage along the Gulf coast as it slammed into Louisiana, and then swept across Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

Although an unofficial death toll hovered around 55 on Tuesday morning, officials in Mississippi were reporting 50 dead in that state alone.

Jim Pollard, a spokesperson in Harrison County, said that 30 of them died at a Biloxi, Miss. apartment complex where they were drowned or crushed by debris.

"This is our tsunami," said Biloxi Mayor A.J. Holloway.

...



Total Death Count from Hurricane Katrina: maybe 100

Total Death Count from Tsunami: 226,000

Yes, the hurricane is horrible, but everyone had DAYS of notice to get the hell out of there.
Click to expand...
Days?

It wasn't a Cat 5 until less than 24hrs before landfall. It wasn't predicted to hit that far west until late on Friday.

And, what are the people who have no car, no money, medical problems, etc. supposed to do? Sprout wings?
Click to expand...

So it wasn't dangerous as a cat 3 or cat 4? As soon as I hear about ANY kind of thunderstorm warning for my area, I'm on the weather band, listening for the most current forecast. People need to take more responsibility here for staying informed on what is going on around them. A radio costs what? $3? $4?

No car? You should have planned in advance to get a ride with someone who has a car. Or, take the bus/plane/train/etc. Or, find out where there is a shelter you can stay at, and have plans to be able to get there in a hurry.

No money? Then you are a moron. You should have been saving some money over the last several years for something like this. I make sure that I have enough cash on hand for emergencies, in case the bank machines go down over a long weekend or something. I also keep a separate no-fee account with a 'rainy-day fund' for emergency use. I put $2/week into it before I was married, and now I put $5/week into it. It took a few years, but now I know that I'm covered if I have emergency expenses (uncovered medical/dental, unemployment, etc.)

Medical Problems? You should have made plans in advance, and knew where you could go. You should have had an extra supply of medication or other supplies that could get you through an emergency.

In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
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Ah...the blame it on the victim mentality.

Are you a visting Freeper? Go back to FreeRepublic.com.
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: stephenw22
In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
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Couldn't you say this about those affected by the tsunami, as well?

Wait - that doesn't prove your point.
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Did you even bother to read any of my previous posts?

I guess I should clarify, for people who may not follow my thinking:
True, everyone is porentially in the path of some kind of natural disaster. To a certain extent, people in Asia should have been more prepared for something like that to happen. However, there are many places in the world that see disasters on a much more regular basis (i.e. Florida). Either way, you should be ready for a disaster, but for people living in an area that is at higher risk, the onus is on the resident to be ready for the disaster.

Another main difference is in the relative time frame of the sequence of events. No matter how prepared people were for the tsunami, most people only had minutes or even seconds to react to the huge wave. For the hurricane, people had hours, and even DAYS to react before the full force of the storm hit them.

The most sad thing about the hurricane will be the after-aftermath, when we see how stupid and degraded people can really get. All of the looting, insurance fraud, etc.

Edit: Never heard of freepers. I just think for the media to compare this to the tsunami is ridiculous. For the individual families that lost loved ones, I'd say that I'm sure it's horrible, but it's hard to point the "finger of blame" at anyone but the victims themselves for not finding better shelter.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: stephenw22
In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
Click to expand...

Couldn't you say this about those affected by the tsunami, as well?

Wait - that doesn't prove your point.
Click to expand...
There was no warning for the Tsunami. It came incredibly fast - at speeds approaching 600 mph. There was almost nothing Indonesia could do and Thailand didn't send out a warning cause they didn't want to harm western tourist revenue.
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That said, they had lived there for a long time, as do the people in New Orleans. You may notice how there's a recurring theme in this thread about how the people shouldn't have lived there in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: stephenw22
In almost any case, it's their own fault. People might whine and complain, but they still put themselves in the potential path of a disaster without thinking about the natural consequences
Click to expand...

Couldn't you say this about those affected by the tsunami, as well?

Wait - that doesn't prove your point.
Click to expand...
There was no warning for the Tsunami. It came incredibly fast - at speeds approaching 600 mph. There was almost nothing Indonesia could do and Thailand didn't send out a warning cause they didn't want to harm western tourist revenue.
Click to expand...

That said, they had lived there for a long time, as do the people in New Orleans. You may notice how there's a recurring theme in this thread about how the people shouldn't have lived there in the first place.
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I'd agree with that. I read that the areas damaged worst by the tsunami were ones where they had cleared the land to make better beaches, etc. In less-developed areas, the damage was much less severe, as the trees and natural landscape blocked most of the force.

Locally, I equate this to people who buy homes in the new developments, which happen to be located on the floodplain of the local river. It hasn't flooded in 50 years or so, but it's still A FREAKING FLOODPLAIN! I can't believe the city approved the land for building, and that anyone would buy a home there!
 
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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Yea cause we help out with every Asian typhoon.

This disaster is nowhere near as big as the tsunami and this whole ridiculous topic was already raised by a bunch of dumb southerners in OT and subsequently shot down.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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BTW that quote in your sig is stupid. Pacifism worked against the British Empire which was far from a democracy.

I can't even believe Orwelll would be dumb enough to say that.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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Yes, every third world country should start donating millions to the richest country in the world for heavy rainfall. You are a tool.
 
Hey crapface, the analogy is fine. Have you seen what New Orleans looks like? Like a freaking tsunami went right through it. WAY more than 100 people died, it will get in to the thousands.

 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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Yea cause we help out with every Asian typhoon.

This disaster is nowhere near as big as the tsunami and this whole ridiculous topic was already raised by a bunch of dumb southerners in OT and subsequently shot down.
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Actually, this disaster is quite a bit bigger than the tsunami because it goes far inland over a very widespread area and affects far more than the coastline.

 
How much of the damage in Asia was covered by insurance?
How much of the damage in the U.S. is covered by insurance?

Just wondering...
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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Yes, every third world country should start donating millions to the richest country in the world for heavy rainfall. You are a tool.
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"Heavy rainfall?" How many hurricanes have you been through? It sounds like you've never been through one and are absolutely clueless about them.

 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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Good question.

Could be as high as a thousand people killed or drowned.

Probably close to a million people have lost everything they own.

This is like looking at another Country but it's not. This is OUR home.

🙁
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So how many people and disaster aid agencies from SE Asia are rushing to assist the US right now in its time of need? How many foreign countries are donating millions of dollars to help us out after this devastation?

Just curious.
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Yea cause we help out with every Asian typhoon.

This disaster is nowhere near as big as the tsunami and this whole ridiculous topic was already raised by a bunch of dumb southerners in OT and subsequently shot down.
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btw, your bigotry concerning southerners is ridiculous and says a lot about your pathetically elitist mindset. If the south sucks so much then why are so many damn northerners moving down here and away from their wonderful bastions of liberalism and culture? :roll:
 
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