"This is Our Tsunami"

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daniel49

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the damage is in the billions seems pretty major to me. New orleans is unliveable,Biloxi, and Mobile apparently were hit by a 25 foot wave.

Sure the news thrives on sensationalism..duh.
But don't let that blind you to the need and damage.
I am waiting for the millions of dollars of international aid to start rolling in....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.
....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting...
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.....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting oh wait thats right its the US no one gives a Rats arse.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: daniel49
the damage is in the billions seems pretty major to me. New orleans is unliveable,Biloxi, and Mobile apparently were hit by a 25 foot wave.

Sure the news thrives on sensationalism..duh.
But don't let that blind you to the need and damage.
I am waiting for the millions of dollars of international aid to start rolling in....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.
....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting...
..waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.....
waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......w
iting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......wai
ing......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiti
g......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting
.....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting oh wait thats right its the US no one gives a Rats arse.

Some countries have offered assistance.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
Perhaps you need to visit your eye doctor, because you missed about 50% of my post. This is what you originally quoted:

The part I didn't quote was a seperate paragraph and had NO CONNECTION to the first statement.

Originally posted by: stephenw22
I've highlighted the text you had ignored. If you're going to try to tear me apart, at least quote the entire post, not just the single statement you have an issue with. You call me a liar, but to take my comment out of context is pure verbal bullying.

Let me re-word the post a little bit for you, given the context of the quoted post and the ones prior to it: PEOPLE LIVING IN A COASTAL CITY BELOW SEA LEVEL AND CLOSE TO THE LANE OF MAJOR HURRICANES SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXPECTING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIVE IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION, BUT OBVIOUSLY MANY PEOPLE DID.

Whether or not people should expect the hurricane is irrelevant to what I posted. You said this:

Originally posted by: stephenw22
What genius thought that it was a good place for a city?

My response was to that question. So stop backtracking and admit you are a fvcking moron or stfu.

 
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Originally posted by: daniel49
the damage is in the billions seems pretty major to me. New orleans is unliveable,Biloxi, and Mobile apparently were hit by a 25 foot wave.

Sure the news thrives on sensationalism..duh.
But don't let that blind you to the need and damage.
I am waiting for the millions of dollars of international aid to start rolling in....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.
....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting...
..waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.....
waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......w
iting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......wai
ing......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiti
g......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting
.....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting oh wait thats right its the US no one gives a Rats arse.

Do we even need international assistance? Didn't a country like India reject foreign aid during the tsunami disaster?

It would be nice if other countries offered some aid to the US, but they probably already think that the US doesn't need any aid. Anyways, wasn't a large amount of the tsunami aid loans? We don't need those.
 

stephenw22

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: stephenw22
Perhaps you need to visit your eye doctor, because you missed about 50% of my post. This is what you originally quoted:

The part I didn't quote was a seperate paragraph and had NO CONNECTION to the first statement.

Originally posted by: stephenw22
I've highlighted the text you had ignored. If you're going to try to tear me apart, at least quote the entire post, not just the single statement you have an issue with. You call me a liar, but to take my comment out of context is pure verbal bullying.

Let me re-word the post a little bit for you, given the context of the quoted post and the ones prior to it: PEOPLE LIVING IN A COASTAL CITY BELOW SEA LEVEL AND CLOSE TO THE LANE OF MAJOR HURRICANES SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXPECTING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIVE IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION, BUT OBVIOUSLY MANY PEOPLE DID.

Whether or not people should expect the hurricane is irrelevant to what I posted. You said this:

Originally posted by: stephenw22
What genius thought that it was a good place for a city?

My response was to that question. So stop backtracking and admit you are a fvcking moron or stfu.

Then, a correct response to this question would have been "Jaques LaPlante", or whoever decided it; I actually don't know and I wouldn't mind knowing. However, your response detailed "Why it wasn't a bad place for a city", but nothing about "Who thought that it was a good place for a city?" If you're going to try to respond to a question, at least answer it. Editorializing a question doesn't get it answered.

At the time, maybe it was a convenient location, but they must have seen hurricanes and storm surges, even way, back then. Didn't they care about flooding back then? Anyways, I'm starting to get too off-topic for this thread.
 

OS

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Proletariat
What the....

Just forget it dude. Forget it.

You really are heartless and have never seen real horror.
155,000 people die on average every single day. That's 1.8 deaths every single second. Are their deaths less horrific because they occur singly and not en masse? Because you're saying that they are. Oh yeah, I'm heartless... :roll:

Let me get this straight, on a historical/worldwide/humanitarian scale, a 70 y/o guy dying from self induced heart disease or lung cancer is just as tragic as the holocaust?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: OS
Let me get this straight, on a historical/worldwide/humanitarian scale, a 70 y/o guy dying from self induced heart disease or lung cancer is just as tragic as the holocaust?
And you're saying it not because the old fart had it coming? Aren't you the nice person? :roll:
 

OS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: OS
Let me get this straight, on a historical/worldwide/humanitarian scale, a 70 y/o guy dying from self induced heart disease or lung cancer is just as tragic as the holocaust?
And you're saying it not because the old fart had it coming? Aren't you the nice person? :roll:

nicer than you pooh-poohing an event at 1,000 times the cost of life.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: OS
Let me get this straight, on a historical/worldwide/humanitarian scale, a 70 y/o guy dying from self induced heart disease or lung cancer is just as tragic as the holocaust?
And you're saying it not because the old fart had it coming? Aren't you the nice person? :roll:
nicer than you pooh-poohing an event at 1,000 times the cost of life.
I'm not pooh-poohing anything. I'm just saying it's not a numbers game.
 

raildogg

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it is their tsunami in that their towns and cities were devastated. can't you not understand that?
 

chrisms

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In defense of the person quoted by the OP, he may have been saying 'this is our big natural disaster.' I don't expect the mayor of a small Mississippi town to be an expert in public communications.
 

Starbuck1975

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As far as the people living in the regions affected by this event, it is their Tsunami...fortunately, public authorities had time to issue sufficient warnings such that a majority of the population in these areas was able to evacuate...those regions in Asia hit by the tsunami had no such warning.

You cannot quantify a natural disaster in terms of the loss of human life...these areas, like those hit by the tsunami, are devastated...people have lost everything they owned, and many have lost their lives...the city of New Orleans may never recover.

So the mayor of Biloxi called Katrina their sunami...WHAT AN OUTRAGE...somehow, I think you would not have created this post had such a quote come from a politician in a blue state. :roll:
 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
As far as the people living in the regions affected by this event, it is their Tsunami...fortunately, public authorities had time to issue sufficient warnings such that a majority of the population in these areas was able to evacuate...those regions in Asia hit by the tsunami had no such warning.

You cannot quantify a natural disaster in terms of the loss of human life...these areas, like those hit by the tsunami, are devastated...people have lost everything they owned, and many have lost their lives...the city of New Orleans may never recover.

So the mayor of Biloxi called Katrina their sunami...WHAT AN OUTRAGE...somehow, I think you would not have created this post had such a quote come from a politician in a blue state. :roll:

:thumbsup: Well said. Nice to see people rising above political punditry.
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
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Originally posted by: daniel49
the damage is in the billions seems pretty major to me. New orleans is unliveable,Biloxi, and Mobile apparently were hit by a 25 foot wave.

Sure the news thrives on sensationalism..duh.
But don't let that blind you to the need and damage.
I am waiting for the millions of dollars of international aid to start rolling in....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.
....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting...
..waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.....
waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......w
iting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......wai
ing......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiti
g......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting
.....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting oh wait thats right its the US no one gives a Rats arse.


Actually, the rest of the International comunity is A little distracted, right now
 

Todd33

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Oct 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
it is their tsunami in that their towns and cities were devastated. can't you not understand that?

No. They watched a huge red ball come towards their town on Doppler for three days. It's not the same. If someone told me a huge 9.0 earthquake was coming to CA, I'd hop in my car and go to the Sierras.


Billions in property was destroyed, it will get rebuilt. Just because we build expensive cities in disaster prone places doesn't mean the international communities should offer money. If we can spend as much on defense as the top 32 countries combined, maybe we can afford our own relief?
 

jpeyton

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Aug 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: daniel49
the damage is in the billions seems pretty major to me. New orleans is unliveable,Biloxi, and Mobile apparently were hit by a 25 foot wave.

Sure the news thrives on sensationalism..duh.
But don't let that blind you to the need and damage.
I am waiting for the millions of dollars of international aid to start rolling in....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.
....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting...
..waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting.....
waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......w
iting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......wai
ing......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiti
g......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting
.....waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting......waiting oh wait thats right its the US no one gives a Rats arse.

International aid money? :roll:

The US is the richest country in the world. Your comment is akin to a millionaire asking a welfare recipient for a handout to fix a leaky roof; incredibly stupid.

International money will come in, but from private donations. Just like private donations poured in worldwide for the tsunami disaster.
 

ntdz

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Aug 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: raildogg
it is their tsunami in that their towns and cities were devastated. can't you not understand that?

No. They watched a huge red ball come towards their town on Doppler for three days. It's not the same. If someone told me a huge 9.0 earthquake was coming to CA, I'd hop in my car and go to the Sierras.


Billions in property was destroyed, it will get rebuilt. Just because we build expensive cities in disaster prone places doesn't mean the international communities should offer money. If we can spend as much on defense as the top 32 countries combined, maybe we can afford our own relief?

Nobody said it was the same, can't you get that? It's their own version of it. And it's very similar. There could be thousands dead here, too. Many areas are totally flooded and rescuers are unable to get to people.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Billions in property was destroyed, it will get rebuilt. Just because we build expensive cities in disaster prone places doesn't mean the international communities should offer money. If we can spend as much on defense as the top 32 countries combined, maybe we can afford our own relief?
Actually the French built New Orleans...we simply purchased it from them and maintained the status quo. An appeal to aid the relief of human suffering should be independent of the behavior of governments.

No. They watched a huge red ball come towards their town on Doppler for three days. It's not the same.
Those hit in Biloxi and the surrounding areas expected the brunt of the storm to hit New Orleans, and had no expectation of needing to evacuate. New Orleans received the order to evacuate, yet did not face the worst of the storm...levee failures since the storm ended has made the situation worse.

If someone told me a huge 9.0 earthquake was coming to CA, I'd hop in my car and go to the Sierras.
I doubt you would have that luxury...an earthquake would most likely hit without warning, leaving you in the same predicament as those suffering the wrath of Katrina...perhaps the rest of the country should extend the same indifference towards Californians, who choose to build expensive cities and communities along earthquake fault lines and known landslide areas to "enjoy the views."