This is not safe part X

Red Squirrel

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Crazy Russians lol. That looks like fun.

I'd probably at least want to wear safety goggles or something though. Spark in the eye will ruin your day. :p
 

Mark R

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I guess in Russia they don't have low impedance supplies.

Try that on 150 kA busbars on a 480 V supply - and not even a professional russian would attempt it again.
 

Crono

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Not even safe for my ears listening to it (though I did have my volume loud).

Vulnerability detected.
 

Rubycon

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I guess in Russia they don't have low impedance supplies.

Try that on 150 kA busbars on a 480 V supply - and not even a professional russian would attempt it again.

Probably a long run combined with a 100A branch circuit.

Speaking of low impedance imagine a few thousand Farads at a few kV. o_O

Crowbars would blow like RDX cord. :biggrin:
 

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*sticks a penny in it and runs like hell*

:sneaky:
 

Red Squirrel

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I guess in Russia they don't have low impedance supplies.

Try that on 150 kA busbars on a 480 V supply - and not even a professional russian would attempt it again.

The upstream transformer is probably providing a certain level of current limiting is my guess. Now on a 48v DC system, you don't want to be near when there is a dead short situation. :biggrin: Some of those batteries are made of glass too, for added sharp shrapnel.
 

Rubycon

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*sticks a penny in it and runs like hell*

They will send you to the brig for that. That toll is at least half a million federal reserve notes. ;)

The upstream transformer is probably providing a certain level of current limiting is my guess. Now on a 48v DC system, you don't want to be near when there is a dead short situation. :biggrin: Some of those batteries are made of glass too, for added sharp shrapnel.

Distance is your friend. On a typical 60A 480V 3ph circuit that has long feeders one can hear the rattle of the THHN conductors inside the conduit when a large motor starts. Or even better if it's stalled and you jog the controls. It will sound like tiny martians inside tapping out morse from within the confines of the EMT! :biggrin:
 
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Mark R

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MRI magnets would be fun to play with there, probably lot of weird things happen. :biggrin:

Those magnets are a lot more powerful than MRI magnets.

MRI magnets are typically 1.5 T, with top-end magnets being 3 T and research level magnets being 7 T.

The old LHC deflector magnets are 8.33 T, they are wound with 36-strand x 23 AWG cable with an operating current of 11.8 kA.

The latest upgrade brings some of the magnets up to 11 T - operating current stays at 11.8 kA, but the cable is thinner and there are more turns (2 layers of 56 turns in 6 blocks). These magnets are electrically interesting because the back EMF from a current interruption, if you are unlucky enough to encounter it, bites back with an energy of about 10 MJ.
 
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Rubycon

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Those magnets are a lot more powerful than MRI magnets.

MRI magnets are typically 1.5 T, with top-end magnets being 3 T and research level magnets being 7 T.

The old LHC deflector magnets are 8.33 T, they are wound with 36-strand x 23 AWG cable with an operating current of 11.8 kA.

The latest upgrade brings some of the magnets up to 11 T - operating current stays at 11.8 kA, but the cable is thinner and there are more turns (2 layers of 56 turns in 6 blocks). These magnets are electrically interesting because the back EMF from a current interruption, if you are unlucky enough to encounter it, bites back with an energy of about 10 MJ.

Reminds me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBx8BwLhqg

They claim four Tesla in the video!

Yikes on back EMF. Very familiar with that on multiple megawatt drives. Bites back? Haha yes like Godzilla! :biggrin:
 

Mark R

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Yeah. An old research MRI. There were a variety of field strengths available a number of years ago. These days, serious research has all moved to 7 T, and 4 T/4.7 T has been totally abandoned.
 

CraKaJaX

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Heh, this reminds me of when we had to make a tesla coil for our senior lab. Watching the sparks fly all over the place was terrifying and satisfying at the same time. We passed :D

These kids are clearly drunk on Russian vodka. Zero PPE? Yikes. The green flame shooting out of that cap was pretty damn cool though..
 

jagec

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Reminds me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBx8BwLhqg

They claim four Tesla in the video!

Yikes on back EMF. Very familiar with that on multiple megawatt drives. Bites back? Haha yes like Godzilla! :biggrin:

Someone on the research listserv at my school just put out a request to borrow a "very large...4x4x1 in N52 magnet (or larger)". I looked it up--if that is truly in inches, it is a 0.3T block of pure neodymium terror. The guy's an MD/PhD candidate. Now what do you suppose he needs something like THAT for?
 

OverVolt

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Dude some of those arc flashes on an unprotected eye?

It was so bright it distorted the camera at the source of the arc flash. Not to mention the whole room was washed out with light.

And the dude is like 1ft away starring at it. Holy shit.
 
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Rubycon

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Someone on the research listserv at my school just put out a request to borrow a "very large...4x4x1 in N52 magnet (or larger)". I looked it up--if that is truly in inches, it is a 0.3T block of pure neodymium terror. The guy's an MD/PhD candidate. Now what do you suppose he needs something like THAT for?

I'm sure it wasn't to test the malleability of the gold Apple Watch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiTlQuJbzWw

o_O
 

destrekor

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What was with that screaming about half way through? OMG that was a terrible scream D:

Also... holy shit I love Russians. :awe:

What were they turning into smoke bombs? Were those like large capacitors or something? Or home-made actual smoke bombs?


And lol at how much toxic crap they inhaled. To hell with safety! That impedes exciting life, da?