This is how you treat a woman!

Krk3561

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When I did my taxes this year I found out that I spent over $14,000 on Dates last year. Most of that was spent on dinner and drinks in Manhattan. Now don't get me wrong, I had some very good times, some great sex, some good conversations. Hell, I even made a good friend along the way, but mainly I came away from the date feeling extremely disappointed and with a lighter wallet. Date by date it's not THAT much money but it all adds up fast!

In the past I had a habit of always grabbing the check and paying whether my date was hot or not. Whether we clicked or not. Basically I felt ashamed to let her pay. I also kept and interesting statistic and even I was suprised that only 5% of my dates even offered to pay - yes you see that right- 5%! One girl in the entire year offered to pay for the entire check. A very nice gesture. But of course I paid and doubt she was sincere. In light of all this evidence I knew I had to change some things. So, this year.....

I DECIDED TO NEVER PAY FOR A FIRST DATE AGAIN. How did I do this? First I adopted the mindset that a girl should naturally assume she's paying for herself. Now this wasn't easy at first but I quickly got used to it. Then when going into the bar/restuarant/lounge etc. I would hand the server a credit card and ask them to open tabs for us. HEY!-Did you catch that? I said 'TABS.' Yah, don't worry at least 95% of the girls I meet miss that one too. Just to make sure I usually confirm that the server has understood me too. I do this when the date rudely answers her cell phone or is in the bathroom (probably using her cell phone). Guys, you know the Mastercard "priceless" series of commercials? Well, let me tell you, you won't understand the meaning of 'priceless' until you see one of these girls handed their own check for 3 20$ martinis and overpriced food (that they would probably never buy on their own). It's also very relaxing to encourage the girl to eat and drink up because even at 20$ a pop for exotic gooey blender drinks I could care less how many of them she has - cause SHE'S PAYING.

Oddly enough when she realizes that there are individual bills there will a few prolonged moments of discomfort. But don't panic. Something that took me by surprise is how many girls suddenly have to 'go to an ATM'. I can't quite figure out if it's because their cc's are maxed out on shoe purchases or that they are trying to guilt me into paying. Well, probably a combination of both, but I'm remorseless after doing this for nearly 3 months now. Which brings me to my date last night...... omg.....

Of course the classy nice Irish pub I suggested wasn't good enough for her. Nah...she needed to to go somewhere more trendy. Ok, no problem. W? Hudson? Meatpacking Dist? SoHo? Where we going? So she picks a midtown hotel bar. Nice place. Little stuffy. Drinks, not bad and Macadamia nuts on the lounge tables (complimentary) nice! Of course I went thru my usual routine, handed the server a credit card asked her if we can start tabs she said, 'sure' and took the card. 1 drink in her cell phone rang. She appoligized, (she had to get it). So I moved into confirmation mode. Our waitress even missed the 'tabs' part but she adjusted on the fly and told me no problem. Boy, let me tell you - the girl i was with could really throw down the drinks. She was drinking scotch that was older than the hotel we were in. Of course I encouraged her the whole way. She was like, wow they have Johny Walker BLUE label! I was like, 'you ever try it?' She's like....'Nooooooo!!!' I'm like, 'go on....just get some'. She's like 'are you sure'. I'm like, 'look, if you want it, just get it!' So she ordered one, then another, and finally one more..... wow she was probably more than a little drunk. I stuck to my Stoli and Soda, splash of Cran.

When the BILL(S) came she sobered up fast. I caught a glimpse of hers, 5 drinks plus a little finger food $319.00 I think it was. She looked shocked and sick to her stomache when she saw 2 bills. Guess she thought I was buying. Think again. (The old me woulda soaked up the bill but steared her away from the Blue) I had 4 drinks, no food and a great buzz. Pricey Stoli, but overall still a good value (i ate a ton of free macadamias and almonds) $36.00. Damn I thought, that BLUE label will get you every time. Of course she did more than the traditional fumble through her purse. Her face was beat red and she was speechless. She left the bill on the table and excused herself for the restroom. I had already paid and was sucking on some ice. The waitress was looking concerned. I told her, 'look'. Sure enough my date was heading out toward the front door. I slowly grabbed my coat as the waitress ran after her. Then security or a bellman grabbed her at the door and a small shouting match ensued. Can you imagine, she was trying to leave - without paying!

Well, I didn't stick around to see what happened. All I saw was the poor waitress standing just inside the front door with a small coctail tray. She did look concerned but not paniced. A doorman and bell hop had the girl by the arm, outside and was semi-forcing her back inside, she wasn't getting away from this bill. I paid my bill. I had my receipt. But I couldn't help wondering why she ordered 3 Johnny Walker Blues, doesn't she know that $hit is expensive? Then I wondered if they had to arrest her while I had another drink at my local Irish pub.

I haven't heard from her again. Too bad, she was pretty cute too :(

http://blankethog.blogspot.com/2005/05/ditching-by-dutch.html

The guy was leading her on the whole time it seems, but I guess that girl deserved it for trying to take advantage of him.

Cliffs:
1. Guy sees he's paying way too much on dates, decides to never pay for his date again
2. Goes out to trendy bar with some broad
3. Tells the waitress tabs
4. Chick orders 3 Johny Walker Blues, he encourages
5. Chick ends up with $319 tab, is in shock
6. Tries to leave without paying, gets held by hotel staff
7. Guy laughs his ass off
 

Cuda1447

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My girlfriend of nearly 2 years now almost ALWAYS offers to pay. Sometimes she insists and I allow her to. Its nice that way. We are both in college and I don't make a heck of a lot more than her so I'll let her pay for a dinner or movies here and there. I think the guy should pay the majority of the time, but I also think the girl should be respectful, offer to pay at times, and don't fricken take advantage of the guy and order the must expensive sh!t just cause you can.
 

Onefastdak02

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I pay for dinner at least 75% of the time, and my girlfriend will always at least offer to pay for her half if not the whole thing. If it was first date, yeah split the bill unless she is wwwwwaaaaaayyyyy out of your league. This blog sounds alot like tucker max... (www.tuckermax.com).


99% of people who have blogs shouldn't.
 

Judgement

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I find that a bit harsh when he never really made it clear to her what the situation was in the first place and it's not as if he has taken her out before and she abused the fact that he was paying.
 

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I think this is the best thread ever. 1 beer for the OP and 1 for the blogger!
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: Judgement
I find that a bit harsh when he never really made it clear to her what the situation was in the first place and it's not as if he has taken her out before and she abused the fact that he was paying.
The point is, this woman was going to leave him with a $300+ bill when he only drank $36 worth. Now, if she ordered the same as him, maybe a bit more (~$50), then I could see how that's an assholish move.

But this chick was clearly trying to abuse his wallet.
 

DAGTA

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I would buy that guy beers all night to hear his stories!

Remember, women claim to want equal rights but that seems to disappear when the equal responsibilities idea shows up.
 

thomsbrain

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if she doesn't offer to pay once in a while, i won't date her. if you want equal rights (which i fully support), you can treat me to dinner every now and then (which gives me pleasure), just like i treat you (which gives me pleasure, too).
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: Judgement
I find that a bit harsh when he never really made it clear to her what the situation was in the first place and it's not as if he has taken her out before and she abused the fact that he was paying.
The point is, this woman was going to leave him with a $300+ bill when he only drank $36 worth. Now, if she ordered the same as him, maybe a bit more (~$50), then I could see how that's an assholish move.

But this chick was clearly trying to abuse his wallet.

Yeah, but he went in with the intent of making her pay before she ordered that much, and even when she asked if she should order those drinks he encouraged her without ever explaining the situation. I find it hilarious and think women who assume men are going to cover the entire bill without even discussing it with them are asking for trouble, but it still doesn't sit well.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
I would buy that guy beers all night to hear his stories!

Remember, women claim to want equal rights but that seems to disappear when the equal responsibilities idea shows up.

Hey now, not all women!

<--- pays for her own damn dates and usually the guy's portion as well.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Judgement
I find that a bit harsh when he never really made it clear to her what the situation was in the first place and it's not as if he has taken her out before and she abused the fact that he was paying.

Why should female naturally assume the male is paying for their food/drinks?
 

montanafan

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"I haven't heard from her again. Too bad, she was pretty cute too."

I'd say that's the story of his life right there.
 

Mojoed

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: DAGTA
I would buy that guy beers all night to hear his stories!

Remember, women claim to want equal rights but that seems to disappear when the equal responsibilities idea shows up.

Hey now, not all women!

<--- pays for her own damn dates and usually the guy's portion as well.

I was wondering how a female would respond to this thread. I'm interested in what other female ATOTers think of this thread.

:beer::wine: for you HotChic!
 

montanafan

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What I mean is, it sounds like he hates women.

First of all, I seriously doubt that it's true. It's just some guy who's been rejected by so many women he wanted to make up some fictious scenario in which he gets even with all of them.

What kind of guy would so purposely mislead a woman like that and then take such joy in seeing them fooled?
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: montanafan
What I mean is, it sounds like he hates women.

First of all, I seriously doubt that it's true. It's just some guy who's been rejected by so many women he wanted to make up some fictious scenario in which he gets even with all of them.

What kind of guy would so purposely mislead a woman like that and then take such joy in seeing them fooled?

did you read why he did it?
yeah...