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waggy

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this is why i don't use the FS/FT section. i got tired of the crap.

 

ViviTheMage

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
It's to get out of the sale...it happens.

It's like when you get all of those emails from craiglist ads, yet only 1 will actually meet up and call...a lot of people are PMing on the hype.."oooh, it's still here, I should get it" then buyers remorse within 5-15 minutes after they thought about it. No matter how expensive the item is.

I get that it happens. Does it seem to others that it is happening more often recently?

MotionMan

no, seems about normal...
 

BabaBooey

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Stop whining and move on and olds hit the nail on the head and your responce proves that.
Go change your huggies and unplug your keyboard for one week.


Women ..:confused:


 

shocksyde

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You're really whining about this? Who's got a good "Welcome to the Internet" pic?

And I'll give George W. Bush a reach-around before I bump your For Sale post just because you told me to. Control freak, much?
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: bababooey
Stop whining and move on and olds hit the nail on the head and your responce proves that.
Go change your huggies and unplug your keyboard for one week.


Women ..:confused:

The problem with Olds post is that it is focused on a very minor aspect of my post. Yes, I would appreciate a bump, but, clearly, it is not a requirement.

My OP was more focused on the loss of a sale because of a 15 or 45 minute "delay" in responding to a PM and whether this is happening more often than before.

Otherwise, my response to Olds' post was based entirely on his past history of calling me out and calling me names and my decision, in this case, to not stand for it anymore.

MotionMan
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: shocksyde
You're really whining about this? Who's got a good "Welcome to the Internet" pic?

And I'll give George W. Bush a reach-around before I bump your For Sale post just because you told me to. Control freak, much?

You are focusing on a very minor aspect of the OP. The bump thing was just a throw in.

I was more interested in input regarding the "delay" issue. From your response, it appears that you do not believe that this is happening more often now-a-days.

MotionMan
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: TallBill
Buyer: 02/19/2009 04:21 PM - Will you take $X for the XXXX?

That doesn't mean "I'll buy it".

And people think that lawyers have caused all the problems in this country?

;)

MotionMan

No, idiots like you did.

I meant it as a joke, but, since you brought it up, what do you think I did to cause all the problems in this country (besides start threads like this one)?

MotionMan
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: TallBill
Buyer: 02/19/2009 04:21 PM - Will you take $X for the XXXX?

That doesn't mean "I'll buy it".

For seriously.

I guess he was just taking a survey?

MotionMan

No, formally, by our established procedures, it does not. If you say yes to the price, you and the buyer still must agree on all the ancillary terms of the proposed transaction -- must you ship first or must he pay you first, etc.

Only when ALL this has been stipulated and he then says, "Ok, I'll take it." do you have a sale.

But then, as a lawyer, you already KNOW both the necessity and good sense of dotting every 'i' and crossing every 't' first, right?

Right?
 

shocksyde

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: shocksyde
You're really whining about this? Who's got a good "Welcome to the Internet" pic?

And I'll give George W. Bush a reach-around before I bump your For Sale post just because you told me to. Control freak, much?

You are focusing on a very minor aspect of the OP. The bump thing was just a throw in.

I was more interested in input regarding the "delay" issue. From your response, it appears that you do not believe that this is happening more often now-a-days.

MotionMan

How the hell am I supposed to know "the bump thing was just a throw in?"

Anyways, I see no evidence of an agreed deal in your post, so you have no reason to complain. If the other guy had said "We have a deal," then your rant would have some merit.

Sorry about before, ATOT's assholes are rubbing off on me.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: TallBill
Buyer: 02/19/2009 04:21 PM - Will you take $X for the XXXX?

That doesn't mean "I'll buy it".

For seriously.

I guess he was just taking a survey?

MotionMan

No, formally, by our established procedures, it does not. If you say yes to the price, you and the buyer still must agree on all the ancillary terms of the proposed transaction -- must you ship first or must he pay you first, etc.

Only when ALL this has been stipulated and he then says, "Ok, I'll take it." do you have a sale.

But then, as a lawyer, you already KNOW both the necessity and good sense of dotting every 'i' and crossing every 't' first, right?

Right?

You got me on that one, I guess. For future reference, where are the "established procedures" that state that the timing of shipping/paying is a required term to be determined before you have a contract of sale?

(Sometimes I wonder how I manage to be both too formal and not formal enough in my dealings at the same time.)

MotionMan
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Perknose
No, formally, by our established procedures, it does not. If you say yes to the price, you and the buyer still must agree on all the ancillary terms of the proposed transaction -- must you ship first or must he pay you first, etc.

Only when ALL this has been stipulated and he then says, "Ok, I'll take it." do you have a sale.

But then, as a lawyer, you already KNOW both the necessity and good sense of dotting every 'i' and crossing every 't' first, right?

Right?

You got me on that one, I guess.

/thread


;)

 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: shocksyde
You're really whining about this? Who's got a good "Welcome to the Internet" pic?

And I'll give George W. Bush a reach-around before I bump your For Sale post just because you told me to. Control freak, much?

You are focusing on a very minor aspect of the OP. The bump thing was just a throw in.

I was more interested in input regarding the "delay" issue. From your response, it appears that you do not believe that this is happening more often now-a-days.

MotionMan

How the hell am I supposed to know "the bump thing was just a throw in?"

Mostly by looking at the context of the statement and the question I ask regarding the situation at the end of the OP.

Anyways, I see no evidence of an agreed deal in your post, so you have no reason to complain. If the other guy had said "We have a deal," then your rant would have some merit.

It seems to me that if I say to someone, "Will you take $XXX" and the other person says "Yes.", we have a deal. I guess I am just funny that way.

Sorry about before, ATOT's assholes are rubbing off on me.

There is a lot of that going around. I am not really sure what has gotten into the water, but I have been a big target in the last 24 hours - Is it "Pick on a Lawyer Week"? You will NEVER see me attack another member here except in self-defense.

MotionMan
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Perknose
No, formally, by our established procedures, it does not. If you say yes to the price, you and the buyer still must agree on all the ancillary terms of the proposed transaction -- must you ship first or must he pay you first, etc.

Only when ALL this has been stipulated and he then says, "Ok, I'll take it." do you have a sale.

But then, as a lawyer, you already KNOW both the necessity and good sense of dotting every 'i' and crossing every 't' first, right?

Right?

You got me on that one, I guess.

/thread


;)

Can't quite close the thread yet:

For future reference, where are the "established procedures" that state that the timing of shipping/paying is a required term to be determined before you have a contract of sale?

MotionMan
 

SunnyD

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Just wait until you get someone who buys and pays for said item, only to file a paypal dispute saying the wrong item was shipped before it even shipped, PM you 80 times in 3 hours (daytime working hours no less) asking if it shipped and requesting a refund, then turning around the same day posting a WTB thread looking for the same exact item you sold/unsold to said jerk in the first place.

Yeah - happened to me the other week.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Just wait until you get someone who buys and pays for said item, only to file a paypal dispute saying the wrong item was shipped before it even shipped, PM you 80 times in 3 hours (daytime working hours no less) asking if it shipped and requesting a refund, then turning around the same day posting a WTB thread looking for the same exact item you sold/unsold to said jerk in the first place.

Yeah - happened to me the other week.

That's crazy.

So, um, is it still for sale ;)

(That being said, I certainly have had bigger problems than the in the OP, too.)

MotionMan
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Just wait until you get someone who buys and pays for said item, only to file a paypal dispute saying the wrong item was shipped before it even shipped, PM you 80 times in 3 hours (daytime working hours no less) asking if it shipped and requesting a refund, then turning around the same day posting a WTB thread looking for the same exact item you sold/unsold to said jerk in the first place.

Yeah - happened to me the other week.

That's crazy.

So, um, is it still for sale ;)

(That being said, I certainly have had bigger problems than the in the OP, too.)

MotionMan

Yes. :(

Actually no... I believe I sold said item last night.
 

maziwanka

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jeez. he was just saying how annoying it was. fair enough. as a seller you try to SELL your shit. someone show's interest, you respond promptly and the potential buyer backs out. i'd say that was annoying.

im not saying that it's a unique experience - it does seem like it's common the web. OP has dealt with it, as so many of you are quick to point out. this post isn't any different from another rant over something equally as annoying.

ill probably be selling some shit on the FS/T forum soon, so it's good to read this and be prepared for flaky buyers. im obviously new at this and never sold stuff before so im not familiar with the "norm" of internet used sales.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Can't quite close the thread yet:

For future reference, where are the "established procedures" that state that the timing of shipping/paying is a required term to be determined before you have a contract of sale?

MotionMan

The "mores" or "established procedures" of any one culture or grouping or "sub-culture" are often not written down on a placard, but are easily learned and absorbed during one's active participation in that "group", aided solely by one's common sense and willingness and ability to learn and absorb from those around you.

When in Rome . . .

IOW, if you've been trading on our forums for even a little while, you dead nuts should have known this by now.

I already said all this to you in my pm sent more than an hour ago, to which you have not yet replied.

You would have expended less energy and created less drama by the simple and relatively easy act of learning this, especially aided by your law training, as opposed to not thinking it through and coming here and complaining about it.

Just saying.

;)