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idNut

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bill_n_opus, you laid it out clear. I think you're right too, the world is about good looks. But I shouldn't care about that. I can really indulge myself so much in my joys such as computers or cars that I totally forget about women. If I don't ever have sex I probably won't mourn over it because what I really mourn over are my goals that I don't accomplish such as learning Maya 4 or Photoshop 7. Sex doesn't really matter and I personally believe it to be an act of cruelty to bring a person into this world. Anyways, I never said anything about wanting to get laid so I'm not worried about it. I'm such a geek that I want to be able to climb the mountain of programming or 3D animation or some form of entertainment that I would put sex and women to the side. Is it a form of "I'm too busy for women"? Probably but I know after I ever did have sex with a woman I wasn't married to, my religion, which remains dormant and hasn't completely vanished, will come back to haunt me with severe depression. It's just the way I am. I have an incredible conscience and my sensitivity to everything is annoying. It's just the way I am. Sure I'd like to have sex but it would mean way more to a sensitive fatso like me if it were with someone I truly loved and not some girl I met in a bar or off the street (God forbid).

I'll stop these absurd posts after this post has sunk into the fourth page or so. Thank God, I know.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: agnitrate
Originally posted by: bill_n_opus
Originally posted by: idNut
Who wants to kick me in the balls? Got a straight shot, oh wait, I don't have any!


Alright, i'm going to be brutally honest with you.

You seem very intelligent (am I going out on a limb here?) and you obviously have insight on the matter vis a vis your position with this particular girl. She seems to relate to you at least on a simple social level. You obviously want this very "undeveloped" relationship to possibly go further.


When a girl talks to you but doesn't seem that overly physically attracted - you need to address this. Now!

Women appreciate intelligence, compassion, a shoulder to cry on, the ability to navigate the internet and increase post counts on AT ... and all that freakin' crap.

After she appreciates your buff body, rugged good looks attained by going to the gym regularly, decent clothes and decent cologne coupled a few parts of arrogance, confidence and daring.

Believe that. Become fully developed in all areas of your life and you will get laid all you want. Have all the relationships you want and have the pick of the women.

From my personal story, I used to be physically active but I was also friendly, compassionate ... the usual "nice guys finish last" routine. I had many close friends that were female but I never got further towards the physical. I was semi-happy this way because most guys have lots to do in life like school, work and play.

In any case, I said to myself "Screw it." I took advice from a friend of mine who was always popular with the girls and he told me what was up and what I needed to do.

So, I started going to the gym with a purpose and I became immersed into lifting and quasi-amateur bodybuilding and personal training while also maintaing all my other qualities.

After a year of transforming myself and being able to walk around the beach with broad shoulders, biceps and a flat stomach ... something I could never do before because I didn't have the goods and self confidence ... I began noticing that women were becoming much more friendlier and outgoing and forward with me.

Well, fortunately or unfortunately, I met my soon-to-be wife at work and we became hot and heavy real quick and I was never able to play the field - for better or for worse.

The thing is: women won't admit what we all know. They say crap like they want to find a guy with xxx qualities like humour, senstivity and nonsense like that. The God-awful truth is that they are physically attracted first and then you lock them in with your other qualities that you already had. It's like food, the Japanese always say that you eat with your eyes first before you eat with your mouth. If it looks good then it will help the taste.

This isn't baloney, it's sociologically proven. Some social anthropologists have studied this and have concluded that it's in our genetic code to find the potential mate that will give a woman the greatest chance to provide superior offspring and quality of life. Satisfy this inherent requirement and you will get laid as much as you want.

There, I said it. Take for what it's worth.

Do what you gotta do and then get some p*ssy. The typical "ahole" types that get all the women don't care if you can type code for hours on end, install a quad boot system in 10 minutes or mod a non-pro Radeon 9500 to 9700 levels. Those ahole types are typically lacking in other qualities ... but what they have satisfies the intial wants and desires of women and that's why they are able to advance through the initial stages of a relationship.

This could be you.

HTH.


I nominate this as "Best Post Ever".

-silver

If more people posted advice like this instead of "Wait at least two days before calling" we would have less YAGTs here. Sorry idNut nut not wanting sex is BS. Maybe you feel that way but you should ask yourself why you want to pursue this girl if not for sex?

 

idNut

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Originally posted by: fyleow

If more people posted advice like this instead of "Wait at least two days before calling" we would have less YAGTs here. Sorry idNut nut not wanting sex is BS. Maybe you feel that way but you should ask yourself why you want to pursue this girl if not for sex?

This girl seems to dissect reality and emotion like I do and she portrays it perfectly in her art whether it be writing or 3D or 2D. Her looks are what drew me to her but finding out there is a brain behind the beauty is the real prize. My school is packed with material guys and girls and this girl seems to really break away from that barrier but she doesn't know this is how I think of her.

"Sorry idNut, not wanting sex is BS." I didn't say I didn't want it but rather since I can't get any I'll have to find something to lose myself within. The labryinth of programming or the art of animation seems suffice. There are a lot more elements to this world besides sex I'd like to explore. Sex is "a zesty enterprise" but it's not something I want to revolve around.
 

0dd

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I can't believe that the majority of these posts indicate that the point of entering into a relationship is "getting laid".
 

gwlam12

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Originally posted by: 0dd
I can't believe that the majority of these posts indicate that the point of entering into a relationship is "getting laid".

wow, first post. signed up just to mention that. hehe.


anyway, rather than referring her as "something" you can never have, it'd probably be better to refer to her as "someone."
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: 0dd
I can't believe that the majority of these posts indicate that the point of entering into a relationship is "getting laid".

indeed. most at'ers are horny geeks who don't get any, thus sex is on the brain. You will learn this :p
 

psianime

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Girls don't want a wuss. They want real men. Hit the gym and stuff a sock down your pants if you have too. Bottom line.

It looks like you are stuck in the "friend" catagory and until you do something your situation is not going to change.

-psianime
 

ETan

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I agree with bill_n_opus's post, mostly.... except I think you shouldn't strive to be a good, wellrounded, caring, nice person, with just p*ssy in your mind the whole time. Many other reasons... and you should be happy just knowing that u're pushing urself to ur fullest potential. P*ssy can be part of the journey, or even a nice milestone :), but shouldn't be the destination...

(bill_n_opus, i am not saying that's what u implied. i thought ur advice was very sound.)
 

billandopus

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This girl seems to dissect reality and emotion like I do and she portrays it perfectly in her art whether it be writing or 3D or 2D. Her looks are what drew me to her but finding out there is a brain behind the beauty is the real prize. My school is packed with material guys and girls and this girl seems to really break away from that barrier but she doesn't know this is how I think of her.


So tell her.

Easier said than done of course but it gets easier with practice.

One of the first rules for making societal contact is to ... make your views known.

As insightful she may be ... she's not a mind reader. She talks to you. That's the first step.

The next step to say something like ...

"You know ... I (you) dissect reality and emotion like I do and she (you) portrays it perfectly in her (your) art whether it be writing or 3D or 2D. Her looks are what drew me (What draws me to you) to her but finding out (is finding out that) there is a brain behind the beauty is the real prize. My (Our) school is packed with material guys and girls and (you) this girl seems to really break away from that barrier but she doesn't know this is how I think of her (and that's exactly what I think of you. Just thought i'd let you know as a friend.)


She considers you a friend but by making the first step in a complimentary but subtle way allows her to broach the subject that you think she's pretty cool and that you may be worth investigating further - as more than just a friend.

If nothing happens then so be it. Wasn't meant to happen. Having confidence to act this way is refreshing because (1) you're being honest (2) you are doing something about it (3) women like this kind of thing - being complimented and all that (what do you think those ahole guys do? Sit on their butts wishing for something to happen?)

They don't teach this stuff in class but it doesn't mean you can't learn.

Good luck.
 

billandopus

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Originally posted by: ETan
I agree with bill_n_opus's post, mostly.... except I think you shouldn't strive to be a good, wellrounded, caring, nice person, with just p*ssy in your mind the whole time. Many other reasons... and you should be happy just knowing that u're pushing urself to ur fullest potential. P*ssy can be part of the journey, or even a nice milestone :), but shouldn't be the destination...

(bill_n_opus, i am not saying that's what u implied. i thought ur advice was very sound.)


Yes, I should clarify that p*ssy is not necessarily the ultimate goal although it's a very nice byproduct. If I made that impression then I apologize because it wasn't my intention. I'm just saying that if you want to compete for attractive and intelligent women then you need to be on equal footing with the ahole types and then get yourself over the top with your own qualities like intelligence, career, stability ... and so forth that they may be lacking.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: idNut
I don't know why I hate myself so much. Probably because people tell me to, seriously. Like being fat is unacceptable and you should be ashamed or you make really pointless postings. I've learned to believe that.

If you enjoy being fat then that is up to you, but don't complain that you can't get any chicks because you are fat, do something about it...

Sitting around whining about it will not help at all...
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: bill_n_opus
Originally posted by: ETan
I agree with bill_n_opus's post, mostly.... except I think you shouldn't strive to be a good, wellrounded, caring, nice person, with just p*ssy in your mind the whole time. Many other reasons... and you should be happy just knowing that u're pushing urself to ur fullest potential. P*ssy can be part of the journey, or even a nice milestone :), but shouldn't be the destination...

(bill_n_opus, i am not saying that's what u implied. i thought ur advice was very sound.)


Yes, I should clarify that p*ssy is not necessarily the ultimate goal although it's a very nice byproduct. If I made that impression then I apologize because it wasn't my intention. I'm just saying that if you want to compete for attractive and intelligent women then you need to be on equal footing with the ahole types and then get yourself over the top with your own qualities like intelligence, career, stability ... and so forth that they may be lacking.

Damn straight.

He has a really good point... actually, I said this a while ago on here, not that it matters... almost every initial move in a relationship is made because of physical attraction. Doesn't mean that you have to be ripped, but it does mean that you exercise on a regular (read: at least weekly) basis.

When I look at a girl, I look at a few things... is she cute? (there are traits that I find attractive that other guys don't, and there are those I don't care about that other guys do) Is she healthy (i.e. not morbidly obese - does she look as though she exercises on a regular basis), does she dress well, is she friendly, and is she intelligent? There are other things beyond that, but those don't come into play well down the line.

That's about it. I would assume that most men and women hold the same criteria for the opposite sex as well.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: idNut
I don't know why I hate myself so much. Probably because people tell me to, seriously. Like being fat is unacceptable and you should be ashamed or you make really pointless postings. I've learned to believe that.

If you enjoy being fat then that is up to you, but don't complain that you can't get any chicks because you are fat, do something about it...

Sitting around whining about it will not help at all...

He could go to one of those "fat lovers" conventions...:Q
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: idNut
I don't know why I hate myself so much. Probably because people tell me to, seriously. Like being fat is unacceptable and you should be ashamed or you make really pointless postings. I've learned to believe that.

If you enjoy being fat then that is up to you, but don't complain that you can't get any chicks because you are fat, do something about it...

Sitting around whining about it will not help at all...

He could go to one of those "fat lovers" conventions...:Q

iiiiiiiihhhhhhhh *runs away screaming*
 

zephyrprime

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I seem to waste ATOT's space
Like any of ATOT's space is used for anything important! But seriously, you need to get some prozec or lithium or something. Can't you see that you are not of right mind? I'm serious. You're too vulnerable to your owns thoughts.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
I seem to waste ATOT's space
Like any of ATOT's space is used for anything important! But seriously, you need to get some prozec or lithium or something. Can't you see that you are not of right mind? I'm serious. You're too vulnerable to your owns thoughts.

Yes, remember, there is a pill for everything... a lot easier than trying to solve your problems....
 

billandopus

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
I seem to waste ATOT's space
Like any of ATOT's space is used for anything important! But seriously, you need to get some prozec or lithium or something. Can't you see that you are not of right mind? I'm serious. You're too vulnerable to your owns thoughts.


C'mon man. Prescription meds right off the bat isn't the solution ... self confidence is. Introspective thought is a keen clue that one is torturing oneself ... not necessarily a situation that needs chemical intervention! If one changes themselves for the "better" than your original tortuous thoughts need not apply anymore.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: idNut
Who wants to kick me in the balls? Got a straight shot, oh wait, I don't have any!

I can still kick you in the nuts. Just tell me where this chick's dresser is, I'm sure they're in a jar on top of it...
 

Siddhartha

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I want to make sure I understand this thread:
You have had an unrequited love for a girl since 6th grade. She has been civil towards you but not much else.

I think I went through something like this in 9th or 10th grade. I was really shy. But, I found out that it pays to try meet girls, sometimes it does not work out but sometimes it does. It was better for to try than to sit around and feel sorry for myself.
 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: Hanpan
Weren't you recently complaining of poor performance in school?

That should definatly be your first concern. Get your act together then worry about hers.

Better yet, let her hit rock bottom so she can recover. She can only fix herself.