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This admin really needs to burn in hell

Shh. Don't tell Zendari. He already posted it and thought it was a great thing. He has no problem with people being tortured by mistake.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
What were the circumstances of his capture?

No one will ever know now will they? He tried to bring it to light and Bush and Co. said it can't happen because our "techniques" would be exposed. That's utter BS.

Bottom line here. We can do anything to you and you can do nothing because it would reveal state secrets.

How many are still in such situations or even dead? Too bad so sad.
 
During his detention, al-Masri said he was beaten and sodomized with a foreign object by his captors. He also alleges that a CIA team forced him to wear a diaper and drugged him before a flight to an Afghan prison and refused to contact German authorities about his arrest.

:thumbsdown:
 
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

You'll notice he didn't say the actions are legal or proper, the judge simply said that going ahead with the trial might harm "state secrets". That is a far cry from whatever the hell you are talking about.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

You'll notice he didn't say the actions are legal or proper, the judge simply said that going ahead with the trial might harm "state secrets". That is a far cry from whatever the hell you are talking about.

He didn't say they were illegal either.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

You'll notice he didn't say the actions are legal or proper, the judge simply said that going ahead with the trial might harm "state secrets".

That is a far cry from whatever the hell you are talking about.

He's talkiig about his love for 1930's Germany style of rule which his God Administration relishes as well as his hatred of the U.S., the Constitution and what it used to stand for.


 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

You'll notice he didn't say the actions are legal or proper, the judge simply said that going ahead with the trial might harm "state secrets". That is a far cry from whatever the hell you are talking about.

He didn't say they were illegal either.

No, and he won't allow anything to be determined. Further it was the administration who interceded in this case to prevent the suit.

I have no doubt that everything that the Nazis did were proper and legal under their system. Well I suppose they could always prevent a decision from being made like was done here.

No doubt you are upset about Saddam being on trial because what he did was "legal".

I await your repentance. Right.

 
Soooooooooooooo why isn't germany getting involved?


Probally because this guy is BS. "IF" it was true, you would see Germany at least saying something about one of there nationals being druged, raped and tortured by the US military.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

You'll notice he didn't say the actions are legal or proper, the judge simply said that going ahead with the trial might harm "state secrets". That is a far cry from whatever the hell you are talking about.

He didn't say they were illegal either.

I never said he did, I was just pointing out that your conclusion (that the judge based his conclusion on the actions of the Bush administration being "quite proper") seems to be not quite based on the facts...as usual.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

You'll notice he didn't say the actions are legal or proper, the judge simply said that going ahead with the trial might harm "state secrets". That is a far cry from whatever the hell you are talking about.

He didn't say they were illegal either.

I never said he did, I was just pointing out that your conclusion (that the judge based his conclusion on the actions of the Bush administration being "quite proper") seems to be not quite based on the facts...as usual.

In our nation where people are typically innocent until proven otherwise its up to the liberals to make their case.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Soooooooooooooo why isn't germany getting involved?


Probally because this guy is BS. "IF" it was true, you would see Germany at least saying something about one of there nationals being druged, raped and tortured by the US military.

Again, not the point. The case was not dismissed because it had no merit. It was because the merits of the case were not even allowed to be reviewed.
 
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

you are a human pos, you are out of touch with your humanity
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

you are a human pos, you are out of touch with your humanity

Zendari is an interesting creature. He is either:

1. Completely as he appears. In that case he is of little consequence because he is so alien to decent people whether conservative or liberal that he has no impact other than to get people riled. He has found a place here.

2. He is incredibly bored. He has no life in the real world and gets a kick out of upsetting others. Imagine a socially inept hacker type with no talent.

3 He is really a liberal poser trying to make all conservatives look bad. He does a marvelous job.

In any case, whatever he says, no matter how inflammatory has no merit and can be dismissed out of hand.
 
Upsetting. If this is true, Bush is as much a threat to the world as Saddam was.
 
May I point out that both Dems and Repubs dont seem to seem to mind this type of behaviour. Dont bee fooled, they are in fact the same thing, with the same agenda (just different bullet points)
 
Originally posted by: zendari
The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.
< sarcasm >

I think we should all anonymously report zendari's name to Homeland Security for suspicious activities as a security risk. He wasn't born in the U.S. so maybe he'd enjoy a short stay at the Guantanamo Hilton, and we can laugh when some judge tells him they have to think about which court has jurisdiction to consider whether he was properly tortured. :laugh:

< /sarcasm >
 
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: RichardE
Soooooooooooooo why isn't germany getting involved?


Probally because this guy is BS. "IF" it was true, you would see Germany at least saying something about one of there nationals being druged, raped and tortured by the US military.

Again, not the point. The case was not dismissed because it had no merit. It was because the merits of the case were not even allowed to be reviewed.


Why would the case be discussed to potentially leak government secrets to an individual whose country is not even vouching for his story.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: RichardE
Soooooooooooooo why isn't germany getting involved?


Probally because this guy is BS. "IF" it was true, you would see Germany at least saying something about one of there nationals being druged, raped and tortured by the US military.

Again, not the point. The case was not dismissed because it had no merit. It was because the merits of the case were not even allowed to be reviewed.


Why would the case be discussed to potentially leak government secrets to an individual whose country is not even vouching for his story.


There have been secret trials before. This would not be the first. The first phase could be to determine if there is enough evidence to even pursue it. If not, then no harm done. On the other hand, if this is happening then he is due reperations. You keep brining up Germany. Has it occured to you that they might want to stay out of this?
 
Originally posted by: noto12ious
During his detention, al-Masri said he was beaten and sodomized with a foreign object by his captors. He also alleges that a CIA team forced him to wear a diaper and drugged him before a flight to an Afghan prison and refused to contact German authorities about his arrest.

:thumbsdown:

If that (first part) is true that is extremely unacceptable.
 
I wonder why there couldn't be PRIVATE judicial review of what happened here by a judge cleared for this type of thing
 
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