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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: zendari
The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper

Since when was raping someone in the ass proper?

During his detention, al-Masri said he was beaten and sodomized with a foreign object by his captors

Could have been worse, Cheney could have shot him in the face.
 

DealMonkey

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It's quite common for judges (at every level) to defer to the feds claiming "state secrets" or "national security." They almost never let a case proceed, no matter how activist they might be.
 

techs

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It would go a long way to restore American faith and the faith in world of American justice to throw this guy a few bucks and an apology.
 

B00ne

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
What were the circumstances of his capture?

We don't know, that's the whole point.

You don't have to hold a hearing to answer that question. I just get suspicious when I read an article that is full of allegations and short on answers. The link is basically a bunch of allegations with no supporting information. The whole point of a news story is to answer the who, what, when, where, why and how questions that I'm asking now. The link leaves you with most of those questions unanswered.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is... was he just sitting in his back yard in Plano, TX, having a beer and minding his own business and turning the 'dogs on his barbeque when the FBI showed up and whisked him off to a secret prison in Afghanistan OR was he picked up on a raid of a Taliban camp?

Now that doesn't excuse his alleged mistreatment, but I'd be curious to know how he came be in the custody of the US and what proof he has of his mistreatment. If you're making kidnapping and false imprisonment charges there should be some sort of story to go along with the charges.

He was kidnapped in Macedonia and taken to Afghanistan. Well, thats the allegation anyway.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

Ah. So judges only come to conclusions supporting "quite proper" conduct. You're a moron.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

Ah. So judges only come to conclusions supporting "quite proper" conduct. You're a moron.

OMG, turning on one of your own, I'm :shocked:
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: zendari
Repost.

The actions of the Bush administration are quite proper; hence, this judge came to his conclusion.

Gotta love the liberals though. They whine about stuff being illegal, then when the judges who decide whether stuff is legal or illegal find it to be legal, they whine about the judge too.

Ah. So judges only come to conclusions supporting "quite proper" conduct. You're a moron.

OMG, turning on one of your own, I'm :shocked:

As usual, I don't know what random neuron misfiring is causing your attack. Keep it up and I will attempt to get you a nice vacation. As usual, you don't state any basis for your attack, for instance why this guy is one of "my own". A little rest and recuperation, followed by a course of English 101 and Logic 101, would do wonders.
 

Agrooreo

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In 2003, Khaled el-Masri, a Kuwait-born citizen with German nationality, was detained by Macedonian agents in Republic of Macedonia. While on vacation in the republic, local police, apparently acting on a tip, took him off a bus, held him for three weeks, then took him to the Skopje airport where he was turned over to the CIA. El-Masri says he was injected with drugs, and after his flight, he woke up in an American-run prison in Afghanistan containing prisoners from Pakistan, Tanzania, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. El-Masri claimed he was held five months and interrogated by Americans through an interpreter. He alleges he was beaten and kept in solitary confinement. Then, after his five months of questioning, he was simply released. "They told me that they had confused names and that they had cleared it up, but I can't imagine that," El-Masri told ABC News. "You can clear up switching names in a few minutes." He was flown out of Afghanistan and dumped on a road in Albania, from where he made his way back home in Germany. Using a method called isotope analysis, scientists at the Bavarian archive for geology in Munich subsequently analyzed several strands of his hair and verified his story. During a visit to Washington, German Interior Minister Otto Schily was told that American agents admitted to kidnapping el-Masri, and indicated that the matter had somehow got out of hand. Masri was held for five months largely because the head of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center's al Qaeda unit "believed he was someone else," one former CIA official said. "She didn't really know. She just had a hunch."[35][36]

From a wikipedia article found HERE


Sounds more and more to me the more I look into it that this needs to be addressed by some sort of private judges hearing or something since this man was obviously kidnapped. Too much information pops up when you do a little research for all of it to be false. Someone needs to be able to sit down and sort through all of this to find the truth. But seeing how you would need a high security clearence to get into this mess, I dont suspect we will ever know more than the current administration wants us to. :(