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Things that probably wouldn't exist today if not for the hip hop culture?

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Incredibly wealthy uneducated black americans.

This is the side of hiphop few people know about.
A lot of house, drum & bass, electronic producers got their feet wet by making hiphop beats & vice versa.

For those who think hiphop only contributed to mysogeny & violene, you guys need to do more research. MTV, BET, & the radio only promote less than 15% of the hiphop out there.
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I have a huge vinyl collection from Djing and just from loving vinyl and music.
I'll put it this way, the vast majority of hip hop/rap producers are so lack-luster when it comes to talent, they have to rip every single riff from 70s funk/soul. If it took incredibly sh!tty hip hop/rap artists with absolutely no talent to shed light on the funk/soul masters of yesteryear then it doens't say much for either group.

I do have some great hip hop that I love and there is plenty out there, but it is by no means the majority as you suggest.
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Yeah, as a college radio DJ, I have a short fuse. I've listened to tens of thousands of recordings and when I hear stuff that prevails on me excessively, well it's "I'm outta here, man." A lot of hip hop is like that -- just seems to be trying to be as hackneyed, trendy and generic as can be and I lose patience in a heartbeat. If it ain't got nothin' else to say in the first few bars, forget it. It's not all like that. I've heard some ingenious stuff. Of course, this goes for genres other than hip hop as well.
 
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
No, seriously - every genre has good and bad artists. There's some brilliant hip hop out there, you just won't hear it on the radio. Remember,rock stations play Kelly Clarkson now - all mainstream music sucks, not just hip hop.
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No rock station I listen to will play Kell-ah. Maybe you're confusing rock stations with "Top 40's" stations.
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I was thinking the same. I remember a long time ago someone called my local rock station and requested Hansen or some crap like that. They said sure, then played Metallica. No respectable rock station would play pop music.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...
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You forget 80% of AT equates hip-hop with a black dude doing a drive-by from his Escalade with spinner rims.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.
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..comes from prison. the inside is out.
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And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?
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Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?
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When a thread comes up about things that wouldn't exist without the "country music culture," I might have something to add there. Until then, just because you don't like country music, doesn't mean that my original point - that fall-off-your-ass-jeans is a result of hip-hop culture - isn't still valid.

Perhaps if you followed the thread and the trail of quotes, you'd actually understand what we're talking about? Let me give you breif synopsis:


OP: What wouldn't exist today without hip-hop culture?
P1: Really baggy jeans.
P2: No, that came from prison!
Me: And hip-hop glamorizes prison, ergo baggy-jeans come from hip-hop.
You: ZOMG! Johnny Cash sang about prison! You guys suck!!!
Us: :roll:

Then end.

I love that story. </pee-wee>
 
don't feel like reading 200 posts, but crime and gangs would not be gone if there wasnt crappy music on the radio.
 
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...
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You forget 80% of AT equates hip-hop with a black dude doing a drive-by from his Escalade with spinner rims.
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Since that seems to be one of the dominant themes in the way hip-hop presents itself I suspect that 80% of the general population equates it to that as well.
 
Originally posted by: ric1287
don't feel like reading 200 posts, but crime and gangs would not be gone if there wasnt crappy music on the radio.
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Pretty sure that if you had read the thread, you wouldn't have seen anyone of importance say they would be. 😕
 
Kids that value a pair of $200 basketball shoes and dreams of making it big, or "gettin' paid", over a proper education.
 
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: ric1287
don't feel like reading 200 posts, but crime and gangs would not be gone if there wasnt crappy music on the radio.
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Pretty sure that if you had read the thread, you wouldn't have seen anyone of importance say they would be. 😕
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well from what i have skimmed, i have seen some "gangs, crime, drive bys, violence" etc. which in no way would be gone if there was no hip hop.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...
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For the bolded part, I believe your wrong. Even hip hop all extends from the electro movement which is now the electronic music genre (I'm using ishkur's guide to electronic music).

For the fashion, there's a lot more than just the polo shirts and all that. So many that the list is too big for me to really say, but other fashion trends are punk, european luxury, simple clothing, etc...
Hip hop fashion is not what poor kids get for $14.99 at the back of a wallmart. Or those stores in the ghetto. this is what i mean by hip hop fashion, Sean John blazer

I find it a good mix of edgy and classy. I prefer urban outfitters but don't confuse the clothing of poor kids from the ghetto with urban wear/hip hop inspired fashion.
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I wouldn't say that's hip-hop clothing at all. That tapered fit has been the modern style for suits for a long time. I wouldn't say hip-hop hasn't done things with suits (if you look at how they wear them at the red carpet) but for the picture,

I would say it's nothing hip hop has done. I'll agree with you on your other points, though.
 
To list a few:

spinners
rims that are way too small or way too big
rental rims...
gold anything on cars
2,000 lbs worth of amps, speakers, and 3" TVs always on in a car even if nobody watches them
stupid people
credit card debt
 
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