Thi4f becomes plain old Thief, reboot coming in 2014

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[TheSlamma]

Thief is the kind of game you play on a PC, up close to a 24" screen, at night, with a quality pair of headphones, on Expert mode only. Inevitably, it will be at least partially dumbed down for the "Moron Brigade" who run crying to mommy that it's either "too hard" or that the gameplay is "too different" and "slower paced" than Call of Duty... :|

Something I did to make T3 more of a challenge was I played it on Expert and went through the game not killing or sapping anyone (except for the few that you have to to make the mission progress) I agree, I hope the reboot is good. I'd love to see the return of Expert being "you are a thief NOT a murderer, do not kill anyone"

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Another new Thief trailer.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/12/garrett-expectations-another-thief-trailer/#more-189179

 

[thejunglegod]

Did anyone see this? Holy moly!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkllyzPvQ3Q

 

[TheSlamma]

Did anyone see this? Holy moly!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkllyzPvQ3Q

Thanks for sharing, can't wait!

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Despite being a die hard Thief fan I decided that the discrimination against the EU fans by making them wait for release just isn't on, there's no excuse for this kind of discrimination against customers, we have examples of other modern games treating everyone fairly and having a global release date, such as Bioshock Infinite, there's no excuses for this in the age of digital distribution.

They've just lost a sale.

 

[Dankk]

Despite being a die hard Thief fan I decided that the discrimination against the EU fans by making them wait for release just isn't on, there's no excuse for this kind of discrimination against customers, we have examples of other modern games treating everyone fairly and having a global release date, such as Bioshock Infinite, there's no excuses for this in the age of digital distribution.

They've just lost a sale.

Aside from pointing out how silly you're being from raging so hard over an extra 3 days wait; I also feel obligated to explain that there is, in fact, an 100% valid excuse as to why many video game releases are staggered this way.

Most major video game publishers usually delay the European release of a game by 3 days after the US release as a result of years of marketing experience and sales data. As it just so happens, the most financially effective day of the week to release a video game in the United States is Tuesday. In Europe, the most effective day to release a game is Friday. Releasing the game in these regions on those days, respectively, guarantee the highest possible sales. Those are the days when the highest number of gamers are traveling to the store and looking for a new game to sink their teeth into. For Americans, gaming is a midweek activity. Europeans prefer the weekend. (These are averages and don't necessarily speak for everyone, but you get the idea.)

If you're absolutely hell-bent on playing the game three days early, use a VPN program like PrivateTunnel to trick Steam into thinking you're from the US, and unlock it that way. That's what I did with Bioshock Infinite.

That's right... Bioshock Infinite didn't exactly have a "global release date" as you claim. I distinctly remember Europeans having access to the game before Americans, because they're in a later timezone. I didn't have a shit-fit over it though. I just opened up Privatetunnel and played it a few hours early. You do have that option.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

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I'm not raging hard in fact I just got a 100% discount on Thief and get to play it 3 days earlier than if I paid for it, that's actually a huge benefit to a fan rather than waiting 3 days while other people play and enjoy it.

Nothing you've posted is an acceptable excuse for discriminating against one group of people over another. Infinite did have a global release date, it release at 1 time across the entire world, fans who decided to stay up to play it, or take time off work etc (many did) all got to play it at the same time, that's a matter of fact.

Differences in time zones is an inherent problem that cannot be solved, not an artificial one created for artificial reasons, there's a very distinct difference between these things.

 

[Dankk]

Nothing you've posted is an acceptable excuse for discriminating against one group of people over another. Infinite did have a global release date, it release at 1 time across the entire world, fans who decided to stay up to play it, or take time off work etc (many did) all got to play it at the same time, that's a matter of fact.

Sorry man, but while I know Bioshock's global release date was pretty coherent, it was certainly not released "at 1 time across the entire world".

I remember Bioshock Infinite's release very clearly. It was a game I followed and looked forward to for a long time, and I distinctly remember coming home from work one afternoon the day before the game's official release. It didn't technically unlock until 10:00 PM or 11:00 PM MST in my region, but because it had already released in Europe, I was able to connect to a Dutch VPN and play it that way. There were probably almost a dozen people on my Steam friends list who messaged me asking how I was playing the game early. I had to explain to them that the game was already unlocked in later timezones.

I don't know how else to convince you that you're wrong, but you're wrong.

You use the word "discriminating" like you're some kind of victim. Calm down. The end objective of the video game publisher isn't to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. They're a business. They exist to make money. If they know they can make more money by delaying the game 3 days, then they will. It's pretty simple.

 

[Xed]

I'm not raging hard in fact I just got a 100% discount on Thief and get to play it 3 days earlier than if I paid for it, that's actually a huge benefit to a fan rather than waiting 3 days while other people play and enjoy it.

The irony being you're "discriminating" against the company by not paying for something you're using :whiste:

 

[thedosbox]

I'm not raging hard in fact I just got a 100% discount on Thief and get to play it 3 days earlier than if I paid for it

So you decided to steal a copy because you're being asked to wait three more days than someone else?

Really? Wow, textbook example of gamer entitlement.

Kinda ironic that this is for a game called Thief.

 

[biostud]

I'm waiting for my AMD bundle code to be mailed to me

 

[JumBie]

Call me crazy, but this game does not excite me at all. When the announcement came out a few years back I was stoked. After seeing game play and whatnot I don't find the game all that compelling. To be honest, I feel like dishonored gave the Thief series a fresh breath of air, Dishonored was fun and beautiful. Thief is dark and gritty, which is great because its just like the originals. However the levels look dull...I mean there is nothing there that looks compelling. All i see is small segmented areas that lack a sense of mysticism. I don't know, Ill give it a shot.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

So you decided to steal a copy because you're being asked to wait three more days than someone else?

Really? Wow, textbook example of gamer entitlement.

Kinda ironic that this is for a game called Thief.

I never said I was going to steal it, I said I wasn't going to pay for it.

 

[biostud]

Just got my activation code

 

[MeldarthX]

after watching the first level yep; preordering; now just have to decide if I want just game code or physical copy......tend to like having the physical copies....but just game code is cheaper.....decisions...... I'm in England Princess and data backs up what people are saying. Very few; I mean very few games are ever released on a tuesday over in EU/UK as they don't sell as well as they do released on a Friday.....

 

[sze5003]

I've never played the previous games. I did play a bit of dishonored though and thought it was alright. My whole issue is not knowing where to go or what to do.

I want to get this next week but I'm not sure if I will like it. Would it be reccomended for ps4? I'm not gonna pre order I'll just walk into best buy and get it Tuesday, if so.

 

[motsm]

It's official now that Thief will not be moddable, not that it surprises me.

In odd news however, EM has also opened a modding contest to help promote Thief. I guess to show how the over 15 year old franchise is still alive and well, you know primarily because of the games mod community, which they just said Thief won't have...

Tell me again how this makes any sense?

 

[Dankk]

I've never played the previous games. I did play a bit of dishonored though and thought it was alright. My whole issue is not knowing where to go or what to do.

I want to get this next week but I'm not sure if I will like it. Would it be reccomended for ps4? I'm not gonna pre order I'll just walk into best buy and get it Tuesday, if so.

If you're just planning on going to the store and buying it at full price, might as well wait a day or two for reviews and impressions. Not like you have anything to lose. I think the game looks pretty good at this point but until people have actually played it, it's hard to tell for sure.

 

[sze5003]

Yea besides the game being out of stock which I doubt. Good thing is best buy take trade-ins too and they offer better value than gamestop. At the most I'll loose some money like 15-20 bucks if I dont like it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I never said I was going to steal it, I said I wasn't going to pay for it.

Bravely Default released for 3DS in Europe before North America but nobody got bent out of shape about it. In fact a lot of Nintendo titles have released in Europe first.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-23-why-are-we-stuck-with-games-being-released-on-a-friday

In the olden golden days of home computers, there was chaos. Games came from everywhere in the '80s and shops flung them on shelves whenever they turned up. "It was just release whenever you could," recalls Andy Payne, a veteran of the UK industry. "Stuff would release every single day." Even the bigger shop-chains in the 8-bit and 16-bit eras joined the scrum, buying stock from wholesalers, amassing it at warehouses then racing it out to stores to go on shelves "as quickly as you bloody could".

That's what Graeme Struthers tells me, and he should know: he was a games buyer for Dixons Stores Group (Currys, Dixons, PCWorld) at the time. "And we were by far the biggest retailer for 16-bit," he - wait, was he boasting?

Big operators like Dixons weren't happy. They had order for other goods in their stores and they advertised them in newspapers on Fridays and Saturdays. The prospect of stock turning up late and missing the weekend wasn't a good one, so the big shops did something about it.

"Dixons basically started sitting down with the supply chain and saying, 'If you release products on a Friday that means we can include it in our advertising; that means we can promote you.' It's carrot and stick," Graeme Struthers explains. "I wouldn't say that Dixons were the company that made it Fridays, but it was the retail chains that said having product just turning up ad hoc is useless; having product that's got a defined release date means we can all orientate our distribution to get it into all of our shops for a Friday so that we've got the weekend business.

"It was basically retail bringing order to a very chaotic supply chain. Within about six to eight months, everyone was selling things on a Friday. It was very quick to reach that agreement and understanding."

Games and even hardware are mostly in the store before the release date. Sometimes days before. They aren't allowed to sell it because it's been street dated. Street Date exists to help retailers be able to get their product out for the customers in line with other retailers. Retailers will advertise ahead of time that a product will be available. It has to be the same date for everyone. No playing favorites. It also as was mentioned in the article I quoted, a way for the supply chain to be streamlined. Retailers knew what would be released and when and could advertise for that product. Otherwise things would just pop up on the shelf and people would be like "huh? what's this game? I didn't know it was supposed to be out. nobody advertised it"

 

[thedosbox]

I never said I was going to steal it, I said I wasn't going to pay for it.

If you're getting a copy via a video card bundle, you paid for it indirectly. Otherwise, sounds like you're stealing. And all because you can't wait three days.

 

[MeldarthX]

It's official now that Thief will not be moddable, not that it surprises me.

In odd news however, EM has also opened a modding contest to help promote Thief. I guess to show how the over 15 year old franchise is still alive and well, you know primarily because of the games mod community, which they just said Thief won't have...

Tell me again how this makes any sense?

Where did you get it won't be moddable?

 

[motsm]

Where did you get it won't be moddable?

They did a live stream for GamesRadar and apparently one of the viewers asked about mod support, the producer that was there presenting the game said it won't have it.

:Edit: Found it, at 25 minutes. http://www.twitch.tv/gamesradar/c/3753266

They have been asked before and never gave a straight answer, but they obviously knew all along. Really can't stand this kind of dishonesty.

 

[sze5003]

I was watching someone in Turkey play it on ps4. I'm not sure if he was just really bad or it looked kind of interesting and boring at the same time. The whole time I was watching it didn't seem like he had any objective.

Gonna wait and see how it scores first.