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Fern

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Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
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Beyond that, it appears to me Fox isn't making any accusations of its own against Edwards,..

Yeah, I don't see them making any accusation. Just confirming that the guard says he saw Edwards at the hotel and the other reporters hassling him.

This story has been around for quite a while. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it was true.

While I don't care for John Edwards, I can see where having a really sick spouse can be a very tough thing. I can't really hold it against a person if something like this happens. I expect it's a very tough situation and I can see the non-sick spouse needing some "support" too.

I think this story has always prevented Edwards from being a serious VP choice.

Fern

You can't be serious.....

1st, I'm a conservative and I don't like Edwards. Just wanted to get that out of the way before we had another round of "what would you say if he was a Repub" thingy.

Yeah, maybe I'm wrong but I can only imagine the situation is very difficult and stressful. People sometimes do atypical/unusual things under such circumstances.

I'm in no way condoning or defending him, yet I'll point out this guy has no history of such behavior. Had he a long record of infidelity like some politicians I won't name here, I wouldn't bother to mention the stressful situation.

Fern
 

kage69

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Ronald Reagan still receives an ample amount of worship from conservatives, despite his less than stellar treatment of wives. Not sure where the problem is seeing as how this is all unconfirmed.

I think someone is just pissed it doesn't involve another male (as per the recent trend), but is still trying to make political hay from it all.

Too bad Edwards wasn't stressing "the sanctity of marriage" issue like so many of his (R) compatriots, as then it would be the same kind of embarrassing flip that made those past repub sex scandals so darn funny.




 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Then why are you hiding behind the morality of a gossip?

Why are Republicans acting so desperate?

I don't know, I mean McCain's a shoo-in for the White House, right? I hear he won't even need to campaign. ;)
 

extra

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How did this thread get to be from talking about edwards to talking about some creepy pedophile guy that no one has even heard about lol...

I love how the media, and 99% of people here ignore reality and can't even wrap their minds around it in cases like this...or maybe are afraid that if they suggest what they believe is true that people will view them as immoral freaks or something....

Same with the thing about former NY governor Elliot Spitzer.

I didn't even hear the likely truth said in the media ONCE.. not once...

He had his wife's permission. His wife had his permission to do something too and was prolly banging some rich lawyer on the side or something.
If Edwards slept with some other chick pretty decent chance he had his wife's permission too and she was fine with it as long as they discussed it first.

But you can't come out and say that in this country or people will *really freak out*. No one talks about it, but it's extremely common.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: extra

If Edwards slept with some other chick pretty decent chance he had his wife's permission too and she was fine with it as long as they discussed it first.

Some of you are really grasping at straws here...
 

LLCOOLJ

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Originally posted by: nick1985
You cant honestly tell me that if Edwards was a republican you would be saying the same thing
I'd be saying it about you if the idea of you actually being with a girl wasn't so ridiculous.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: nick1985

Some of you are really grasping at straws here...

Straws are far more reality than you have to prove the story that Edwards cheated on his wife. :cookie:
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Some of you are really grasping at straws here...

Straws are far more reality than you have to prove the story that Edwards cheated on his wife. :cookie:

come on... edwards had permission? that's like the definition of grasping at straws.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: LLCOOLJ
Originally posted by: nick1985
You cant honestly tell me that if Edwards was a republican you would be saying the same thing
I'd be saying it about you if the idea of you actually being with a girl wasn't so ridiculous.

Good one. I can almost feel the burn :roll:
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Some of you are really grasping at straws here...

Straws are far more reality than you have to prove the story that Edwards cheated on his wife. :cookie:

Im not convicting the guy ahead of time, I hope for his family's sake that this isnt true. But there have been a few posters in here saying 'blah blah he prolly had permission to pork some other person blah blah..."

Dont you think thats a little nuts?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: nick1985

Im not convicting the guy ahead of time, I hope for his family's sake that this isnt true. But there have been a few posters in here saying 'blah blah he prolly had permission to pork some other person blah blah..."

Dont you think thats a little nuts?

It was unfounded speculation. Without any evidence to support it, it was no more credibe than the original, unsupported story from The Enquirer and Faux. The main difference is, it wasn't repeating a malicious POS that, if true, would be damaging to someone's life.

The other difference is how much effort you and others have invested in trying to prop up the credibility of the source of the story without the slightest shred of evidence to support it. Your desperation is showing. :cookie:
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Im not convicting the guy ahead of time, I hope for his family's sake that this isnt true. But there have been a few posters in here saying 'blah blah he prolly had permission to pork some other person blah blah..."

Dont you think thats a little nuts?

It was unfounded speculation. Without any evidence to support it, it was no more credibe than the original, unsupported story from The Enquirer and Faux. The main difference is, it wasn't repeating a malicious POS that, if true, would be damaging to someone's life.

The other difference is how much effort you and others have invested in trying to prop up the credibility of the source of the story without the slightest shred of evidence to support it. Your desperation is showing. :cookie:

There is SOME evidence. Its nothing infallible that I would stake my savings on, but to say there is 0 evidence is just false. You know that.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: nick1985

There is SOME evidence. Its nothing infallible that I would stake my savings on, but to say there is 0 evidence is just false. You know that.

The rumor is vile and malicious. If true, it could be very damaging to Edwards and even more hurtful to his wife and kids. If it's "nothing you would stake your savings on," the intelligent, compassionate thing to do would be to STFU until you have real proof of the accusation, instead of pimping it and and attacking those who question the credibility of the source.

I guess intelligence and compassion is more than anyone should expect from you. :thumbsdown:
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Im not convicting the guy ahead of time, I hope for his family's sake that this isnt true. But there have been a few posters in here saying 'blah blah he prolly had permission to pork some other person blah blah..."

Dont you think thats a little nuts?

It was unfounded speculation. Without any evidence to support it, it was no more credibe than the original, unsupported story from The Enquirer and Faux. The main difference is, it wasn't repeating a malicious POS that, if true, would be damaging to someone's life.

The other difference is how much effort you and others have invested in trying to prop up the credibility of the source of the story without the slightest shred of evidence to support it. Your desperation is showing. :cookie:

There is SOME evidence. Its nothing infallible that I would stake my savings on, but to say there is 0 evidence is just false. You know that.

Don't mind Harvey. He's just the typical P&N hack that will defend his boys no matter what. Even he knows he's lying when he says "It was unfounded speculation. Without any evidence to support it,", he just has to keep up with his hack cred.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Don't mind Harvey. He's just the typical P&N hack that will defend his boys no matter what. Even he knows he's lying when he says "It was unfounded speculation. Without any evidence to support it,", he just has to keep up with his hack cred.
LOL, Pot meet Kettle:laugh:

 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

There is SOME evidence. Its nothing infallible that I would stake my savings on, but to say there is 0 evidence is just false. You know that.

The rumor is vile and malicious. If true, it could be very damaging to Edwards and even more hurtful to his wife and kids. If it's "nothing you would stake your savings on," the intelligent, compassionate thing to do would be to STFU until you have real proof of the accusation, instead of pimping it and and attacking those who question the credibility of the source.

I guess intelligence and compassion is more than anyone should expect from you. :thumbsdown:

Harvey, I am not pimping this story. I merely pointed out the wild explanations for this rumor on behalf of John Edwards by some of the posters. "He probably had permission..." Come on, thats stupid as hell.

You can use all the emoticons you have, and call me every name in the book, but that doesnt change anything.
 

Fern

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Evidence?

Kinda difficult to have evidence in these kinds of stories. Either he confesses or she gets a DNA test done. Pretty much anything else is hearsay.

But I'm inclined to believe the recent claims that Edwards was at her hotel late at night. Actually, it seems pretty much incontrovertable. Too many sources witnessed his presence there.

Given the coverage this story has gotten (I'll bet a ton of people waiting at the checkout counter in their local grocery store have seen these stories), and how long it's been in the news (about 9 months now) I'd say something's up.

I don't know if that *something* is his relationship to her and the child, or that he's lost his mind and judgement. If you're accused of an affair like this and you still sneak around late at night at this woman's hotel, you're effin crazy.

I'm starting to wonder why he has not sued them.

Fern


From Oct 10, 2007

A source close to the woman, whose name is being withheld by The NATIONAL ENQUIRER, says that she confessed to having an affair in phone calls and emails, saying that her work with Edwards soon exploded into romance. The shocking allegation ? if proven true ? could devastate the Democratic hopeful's campaign, especially because John's devoted wife Elizabeth is locked in a desperate battle with breast cancer.

"The affair started about 18 months ago," a friend says the woman confessed to her. "When they met at a bar, sparks flew immediately.

"She never expected it would turn sexual since John is married and is running for President. But it soon did ? and she fell for him."

In one bombshell e-mail message provided to The NATIONAL ENQUIRER, the woman confesses to a friend she's "in love with John," but it's "difficult because he is married and has kids."

In another e-mail, she writes: "Last night and this a.m., he actually has amazed me. He is a great man. My heart is loud and my head is silenced."

Disclosed her friend: "She initially confided in a few of her closest pals that she was sleeping with 'a married man named John.'

"It became clear the married man was John Edwards. They got together whenever they could, mostly at hotels where Edwards and his campaign staff stayed."

The woman later spelled it out in a phone call to her pal and talked openly about having an affair with Edwards.

The friend says the woman told her that she "had a crush on John. One thing led to another, and they soon ended up in bed together. But she knew there was no way he was going to leave Elizabeth, a wife battling cancer."

Link

December 2007

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Rielle Hunter, a woman linked to Edwards in a cheating scandal earlier this year, is more than six months pregnant ? and she's told a close confidante that Edwards is the father of her baby!
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: nick1985

Harvey, I am not pimping this story. I merely pointed out the wild explanations for this rumor on behalf of John Edwards by some of the posters.

And that's ALL you posted... Uh-huh... :roll:

Originally posted by: nick1985

Like it would be any more trusted if it was reported by huffington post or NBC news? :laugh:

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Craig234

Their track records are enormously better than either National Enquirer or Fox News. I view Huffington Post as a commentary, not a news site, primarily, though.

Thanks for the laugh

Originally posted by: nick1985

Man, the apologists are out in force today. :confused:

The story is so low and scummy and so hurtful that it borders on libel. By attacking those who question the sources for the story without anything to prove it's even close to reality, you are, in fact pimping it.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Harvey, I am not pimping this story. I merely pointed out the wild explanations for this rumor on behalf of John Edwards by some of the posters.

And that's ALL you posted... Uh-huh... :roll:

Originally posted by: nick1985

Like it would be any more trusted if it was reported by huffington post or NBC news? :laugh:

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Craig234

Their track records are enormously better than either National Enquirer or Fox News. I view Huffington Post as a commentary, not a news site, primarily, though.

Thanks for the laugh

Originally posted by: nick1985

Man, the apologists are out in force today. :confused:

The story is so low and scummy and so hurtful that it borders on libel. By attacking those who question the sources for the story without anything to prove it's even close to reality, you are, in fact pimping it.

Do you deny the fact that he was indeed at the hotel in the middle of the night Harvey?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: nick1985

Do you deny the fact that he was indeed at the hotel in the middle of the night Harvey?

Until you can prove he was cheating on his wife, there, does it matter? :confused:
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Do you deny the fact that he was indeed at the hotel in the middle of the night Harvey?

Until you can prove he was cheating on his wife, there, does it matter? :confused:

Like I said, I hope this isnt true, but can you honestly say that you dont find it the LEAST bit suspicious?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Do you deny the fact that he was indeed at the hotel in the middle of the night Harvey?

Until you can prove he was cheating on his wife, there, does it matter? :confused:

Like I said, I hope this isnt true, but can you honestly say that you dont find it the LEAST bit suspicious?
What a liar, we all know you hope it's true.

It could be worse, he could get caught cheating with a member of his own sex like has happened countless times with the Republicans.
 

Darwin333

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Harvey, I am not pimping this story. I merely pointed out the wild explanations for this rumor on behalf of John Edwards by some of the posters.

And that's ALL you posted... Uh-huh... :roll:

Originally posted by: nick1985

Like it would be any more trusted if it was reported by huffington post or NBC news? :laugh:

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Craig234

Their track records are enormously better than either National Enquirer or Fox News. I view Huffington Post as a commentary, not a news site, primarily, though.

Thanks for the laugh

Originally posted by: nick1985

Man, the apologists are out in force today. :confused:

The story is so low and scummy and so hurtful that it borders on libel. By attacking those who question the sources for the story without anything to prove it's even close to reality, you are, in fact pimping it.

I whole heatedly agree. I personally think that Edwards should get a DNA test from one (if not a few) of the most reputable testing companies and sue the hell out of The Enquirer if its actually false.

I generally despise trial lawyers like him but even I would give him a crapton of money if I was on the jury.

With that said, WTH was he thinking? I personally don't really care. I want the .gov to stay out of my bedroom and I have no problem returning the favor but sneaking around a hotel at that time with a person you have been accused of having an affair with just isn't smart.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985

Do you deny the fact that he was indeed at the hotel in the middle of the night Harvey?

Until you can prove he was cheating on his wife, there, does it matter? :confused:

Like I said, I hope this isnt true, but can you honestly say that you dont find it the LEAST bit suspicious?
What a liar, we all know you hope it's true.

Fuck you too?