?There?s no leadership race.? Period.

[zendari]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: zendari

Delay being innocent upsets you that much?

DeLay's attorneys MAY be able to convince a jury that Texas law is only 99.99999% explicit about what "money laundering" means. And maybe a gullible jury will think that .00001% is "reasonable doubt". So it's possible that DeLay will be able to beat the rap.

Unfortunately for him, he'll be as innocent in the public eye as OJ is. EVERYONE who looks at what happened in Texas (the money-shifting shenanigans and the out-of-cycle gerrymandering) knows that DeLay is a scum bag (even Republicans say so off the record). EVERYONE knows he broke the law in spirit and in principle, even if he walks.

But the beauty - the irony - is that his career is officially over, starting today. Maybe "in fact" that's not yet true. But he's a dead man walking.

Good riddance, slime ball.

Like I said, guilty until proven innocent for the slimeball Republicans, the liberal way! Don't you worry he'll be back in action as Majority Leader soon.

In the mind of people who hate him like you I suppose he will always be guilty. But 50% of his work is done.

I wonder why liberals have so little respect for our justice system.

 

[conjur]

Where's the input from the OP in the OP?


😕



Are the rules of creating new threads being changed now?

 

[Uhtrinity]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: zendari

Delay being innocent upsets you that much?

DeLay's attorneys MAY be able to convince a jury that Texas law is only 99.99999% explicit about what "money laundering" means. And maybe a gullible jury will think that .00001% is "reasonable doubt". So it's possible that DeLay will be able to beat the rap.

Unfortunately for him, he'll be as innocent in the public eye as OJ is. EVERYONE who looks at what happened in Texas (the money-shifting shenanigans and the out-of-cycle gerrymandering) knows that DeLay is a scum bag (even Republicans say so off the record). EVERYONE knows he broke the law in spirit and in principle, even if he walks.

But the beauty - the irony - is that his career is officially over, starting today. Maybe "in fact" that's not yet true. But he's a dead man walking.

Good riddance, slime ball.

Like I said, guilty until proven innocent for the slimeball Republicans, the liberal way! Don't you worry he'll be back in action as Majority Leader soon.

In the mind of people who hate him like you I suppose he will always be guilty. But 50% of his work is done.

I wonder why liberals have so little respect for our justice system.

Wouldn't matter to me if he was a democrat, independent, whatever, I would still see him as a crook and would still hope he gets all that is coming to him. Jeez, his lawyers are nitpicking technicalities (check vs. cash). You don't do that unless you have been caught red handed. To not see it means you are a blinded partisan.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: zendari

Delay being innocent upsets you that much?

DeLay's attorneys MAY be able to convince a jury that Texas law is only 99.99999% explicit about what "money laundering" means. And maybe a gullible jury will think that .00001% is "reasonable doubt". So it's possible that DeLay will be able to beat the rap.

Unfortunately for him, he'll be as innocent in the public eye as OJ is. EVERYONE who looks at what happened in Texas (the money-shifting shenanigans and the out-of-cycle gerrymandering) knows that DeLay is a scum bag (even Republicans say so off the record). EVERYONE knows he broke the law in spirit and in principle, even if he walks.

But the beauty - the irony - is that his career is officially over, starting today. Maybe "in fact" that's not yet true. But he's a dead man walking.

Good riddance, slime ball.

Like I said, guilty until proven innocent for the slimeball Republicans, the liberal way! Don't you worry he'll be back in action as Majority Leader soon.

In the mind of people who hate him like you I suppose he will always be guilty. But 50% of his work is done.

I wonder why liberals have so little respect for our justice system.

Slimeball RepublicanS? Please show me where in this thread I've made reference to a ANY slimeball Republican beyond the uber-slimeball, Tom DeLay.

And you're mistaking being labeled a slime ball with being presumed guilty. My statement was that even if Tom DeLay is found NOT guilty, we all already know he's a slime ball. And I also wrote that because he's now officially going to trial - sometime late in the spring (Thank You, Jesus!) - his political career is effectively over. Even you know those statements are true.

Praise the lord and pass skunk repellant.

 

[Lemon law]

Praise the lord and pass the skunk repellant?

That is precisely the problem-----when I smell skunk its usually because some other poor smuck ran over a skunk on the road.---and then everyone in the vicinity gets to smell the stench for days on end.

But kill one skunk and there will always be another to take its place---don't want to be too blunt about that heir apparent.

 

[Rainsford]

This seems like a fairly straightforward issue. Delay had one charge thrown out by the judge, the other charge was upheld and is going to trial. Good news, I suppose, for Delay. But conspiracy is also a less serious charge, and he's still being charged with something. If you are Zendari, this second charge can simply be ignored. For those of us in the reality based community, it's more of a wait and see thing.

But here's what I'm wondering...is "It's Hammer Time" quite possible the lamest subtitle for a thread ever? I know people like Zendari like pointless, and often stupid sounding, sound bites. But this seems to be pushing it, even for him.

 

[dahunan]

I think "It's HAmmer Time" is what Bubba is gonna say to Tammy DeLay in the showers

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
This seems like a fairly straightforward issue. Delay had one charge thrown out by the judge, the other charge was upheld and is going to trial. Good news, I suppose, for Delay. But conspiracy is also a less serious charge, and he's still being charged with something. If you are Zendari, this second charge can simply be ignored. For those of us in the reality based community, it's more of a wait and see thing.

But here's what I'm wondering...is "It's Hammer Time" quite possible the lamest subtitle for a thread ever? I know people like Zendari like pointless, and often stupid sounding, sound bites. But this seems to be pushing it, even for him.

Awwwww, no sense of humor rainsford?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Rainsford
This seems like a fairly straightforward issue. Delay had one charge thrown out by the judge, the other charge was upheld and is going to trial. Good news, I suppose, for Delay. But conspiracy is also a less serious charge, and he's still being charged with something. If you are Zendari, this second charge can simply be ignored. For those of us in the reality based community, it's more of a wait and see thing.

But here's what I'm wondering...is "It's Hammer Time" quite possible the lamest subtitle for a thread ever? I know people like Zendari like pointless, and often stupid sounding, sound bites. But this seems to be pushing it, even for him.

Awwwww, no sense of humor rainsford?

humor has to somehow relate to the topic at hand to be called humor in the first place

 

[arsbanned]

I have to hand it to zendari, even in the face of utter embarrassment, he keeps coming back, like a retarded jack in the box, with ever more inane, inaccurate commentary. Now it's tinged with hysteria. But whatever. Comedy gold! Hammer time indeed.... 😀

 

[Sysbuilder05]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Todd33
Of course you would be happy if a crook gets away with it on a technicality. Conservatives, the people of accountability..

Except he isn't a crook.

Bawhahahah...REALLY?? Delay/Westar energy,goggle it and read it for yourself. An energy company "buying" their "place" at the table via large sums of cash being paid to Delay.

Nah...he's not a crook. He's a REAL BAD crook.

 

[arsbanned]

Looks like DeLay is in trouble at home.

Close to half of the registered voters in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll said they would be likely to vote for an unnamed Democratic opponent next year.

The poll also found that 55 percent of the registered voters in Texas' 22nd Congressional District believe the charges against the former House majority leader are definitely or probably true.


When registered voters were asked for their opinion of DeLay, 52 percent said it was unfavorable, while 37 percent said they viewed him favorably.

How's it feel to be in the minority, zendari?


http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/05/delay.poll/index.html

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
So zendari, assuming DeLay is cleared of wrongdoing, would you say teh presumption of innocence was wasted? You seem very ready to let that, and 'all that Miranda BS' fall by the wayside.

I happen to think DeLay is a crook, and also that OJ is a murderer. I don't think OJ belongs in jail though because his guilt was not proven. Similarly, if no conviction is forthcoming in the DeLay case, he should be free to go about his life.

Note that the end of a political career coming without a conviction is commonplace; leaders need to not only be clean, but appear so as well. I won't cry any tears for the end of DeLay's political career on these grounds, and neither should you. Actually, if he really is exhonerated (rather than simply 'not convicted'), he will probably manage to bring himself back.

The presumption of innocence on this forum tends to rapidly disappear when it comes to discussing certain Republican politicians. Delay will be back in action and reinstated, and the Democrats will start crying again.

After all, when Delay is concerned, U Can't Touch This! :laugh:

Ahh yes, that's certainly the sort of slogan I would choose if I were well and truly innocent.

You didn't answer the question, shockingly, as you once again were given a speciic opportunity to say something intelligent and failed to do so.

Congratulations.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Can't touch this . .

One charge dismissed, 2 charges upheld and moved to trial.

<Austin Powers>
Judge Pat Priest ordered U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay and two co-defendants to be tried next year on charges that they laundered corporate money into political donations during the 2002 elections.
The judge, however, threw out the indictment accusing the defendants of conspiring to violate a Texas law prohibiting the spending of corporate money in connection with a campaign. The judge ruled that conspiracy charges did not apply to the state's election code until the Legislature changed state law in 2003 ? after the alleged offenses had been committed.

The ruling means DeLay, R-Sugar Land, and his associates, John Colyandro of Austin and Jim Ellis of Washington, D.C., could stand trial sometime early next year. The defense still hopes to derail the prosecution by accusing prosecutors of misconduct in their handling of the grand juries that indicted them.

For the 2002 legislative campaigns, DeLay and his co-defendants created Texans for a Republican Majority, a political committee dedicated to helping elect a Republican majority to the Texas House of Representatives.

They were indicted three months ago on charges of conspiring to violate a state law that bars spending corporate money in connection with a campaign and of conspiring to launder $190,000 of corporate money into political donations.

Specifically, the committee spent about $600,000 of corporate money on consultants, fundraisers, phone banks and pollsters, although the defendants argued that the money was spent for committee activities and not in connection with any specific campaign. Also, Colyandro sent a blank check to Ellis who, according to the indictment, negotiated a money swap with the Republican National Committee. Prosecutors argued that Texans for a Republican Majority traded $190,000 of corporate money for the same amount in legal donations from the RNC to seven Texas legislative candidates.

The defense denies wrongdoing on the remaining charge, saying the allegations are not crimes under state law.

Although the election code bars corporate money being spent in connection with a campaign, it allows a political committee to spend the money on the committee's overhead.

</Squeal like a piggy>

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
So zendari, assuming DeLay is cleared of wrongdoing, would you say teh presumption of innocence was wasted? You seem very ready to let that, and 'all that Miranda BS' fall by the wayside.

I happen to think DeLay is a crook, and also that OJ is a murderer. I don't think OJ belongs in jail though because his guilt was not proven. Similarly, if no conviction is forthcoming in the DeLay case, he should be free to go about his life.

Note that the end of a political career coming without a conviction is commonplace; leaders need to not only be clean, but appear so as well. I won't cry any tears for the end of DeLay's political career on these grounds, and neither should you. Actually, if he really is exhonerated (rather than simply 'not convicted'), he will probably manage to bring himself back.

The presumption of innocence on this forum tends to rapidly disappear when it comes to discussing certain Republican politicians. Delay will be back in action and reinstated, and the Democrats will start crying again.

After all, when Delay is concerned, U Can't Touch This! :laugh:

Ahh yes, that's certainly the sort of slogan I would choose if I were well and truly innocent.

You didn't answer the question, shockingly, as you once again were given a speciic opportunity to say something intelligent and failed to do so.

Congratulations.

You can't get blood out of a stone.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
I have to hand it to zendari, even in the face of utter embarrassment, he keeps coming back, like a retarded jack in the box, with ever more inane, inaccurate commentary. Now it's tinged with hysteria. But whatever. Comedy gold! Hammer time indeed.... 😀

You know I was thinking that perhaps Zendari never did any team sports when he was younger. So, politics has become a replacement for the comradery that he missed in his youth. I can easily imagine him high-fiving himself when this came on Fox.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: arsbanned
I have to hand it to zendari, even in the face of utter embarrassment, he keeps coming back, like a retarded jack in the box, with ever more inane, inaccurate commentary. Now it's tinged with hysteria. But whatever. Comedy gold! Hammer time indeed.... 😀

You know I was thinking that perhaps Zendari never did any team sports when he was younger. So, politics has become a replacement for the comradery that he missed in his youth. I can easily imagine him high-fiving himself when this came on Fox.

Yupper, I can see that clear as day.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
So zendari, assuming DeLay is cleared of wrongdoing, would you say teh presumption of innocence was wasted? You seem very ready to let that, and 'all that Miranda BS' fall by the wayside.

I happen to think DeLay is a crook, and also that OJ is a murderer. I don't think OJ belongs in jail though because his guilt was not proven. Similarly, if no conviction is forthcoming in the DeLay case, he should be free to go about his life.

Note that the end of a political career coming without a conviction is commonplace; leaders need to not only be clean, but appear so as well. I won't cry any tears for the end of DeLay's political career on these grounds, and neither should you. Actually, if he really is exhonerated (rather than simply 'not convicted'), he will probably manage to bring himself back.

The presumption of innocence on this forum tends to rapidly disappear when it comes to discussing certain Republican politicians. Delay will be back in action and reinstated, and the Democrats will start crying again.

After all, when Delay is concerned, U Can't Touch This! :laugh:

Ahh yes, that's certainly the sort of slogan I would choose if I were well and truly innocent.

You didn't answer the question, shockingly, as you once again were given a speciic opportunity to say something intelligent and failed to do so.

Congratulations.

You can't get blood out of a stone.

Don't be so sure about that... 😉

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: zendari
The presumption of innocence on this forum tends to rapidly disappear when it comes to discussing certain Republican politicians. Delay will be back in action and reinstated, and the Democrats will start crying again.

After all, when Delay is concerned, U Can't Touch This! :laugh:

WTF are you smoking? It's obviously strong sh8, but the hallucinations are pretty rank. 😛

 

[zendari]

Text

Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) yesterday dismissed the notion that House Republicans would try to oust him permanently from leadership.

Speaking shortly before a second potential candidate withdrew his name from consideration, DeLay said, ?The conference knows what?s going on. There?s no leadership race.?

He made his comments when asked by The Hill whether he would try to persuade members to hold off on a race to replace him. He told a small group of reporters in the Capitol basement, ?You all know there is no leadership race. You all are creating a leadership race.?

Just hours later, Republican Study Committee (RSC) Chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) told a group of supporters that he has no intention of mounting a leadership campaign in the near future.

His announcement came a day after National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Tom Reynolds (R-N.Y.) circulated a letter to GOP colleagues stating that he would remain at the NRCC through next November?s midterm elections.


All the people with sense realize that Delay will be back into his ML spot soon enough.

 

[azazyel]

I can't believe you just edited your OP for this.

 

[azazyel]

Now I just thought this was funny...

?Congressman DeLay?s team has appeared in court twice, and has won both times,? Carter told the conference as it was confirmed by a spokesperson. ?The conspiracy charge being thrown out by the judge is a victory for the DeLay team, since this was the easiest charge to prove.?

To me that read, dude he was so guilty and it so obvious and you couldn't do it!! HA HA

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Of course he edited it.
zenny lives in a world of denial, neo-cons are the majority, liberals are all hippie scum who leech off of the government. He's a sad boy.

 

[conjur]

He's probably having wet dreams about DeLay...esp. now that Hastert wants to delay the start of the House until Jan. 31.

 

[techs]

THREE. Count 'em THREE. Censures by the House Ethics committee.
Almost NO one gets censured by the House Ethics committee. Much less THREE times.
And some guy named Zendari thinks this guy is just the best thing since sliced bread?
Thats what I love about America. You can be pro-sleaze and still post a thread in Anandtech🙂