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?There?s no leadership race.? Period.
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Lemon law
Lifer
I for one am tired of everyone dumping on zendari.
I certainly hope time proves zendari wrong but he has an equal right to anyone else on this forum to advocate his point of view.
And at the end of the day, its extremely unlikely that any on these forums will have an active role in
deciding the guilt or innocence of Tom Delay.
At another point in time, the gavel in some court will go down and the binary question of guilt or innocence will be decided for the hammer. I confine my rage to Delay, and hope zendari may be then speechless if my preference happens.----and do not rule out the possibility that zendari may independently change his mind when more evidence comes in. Nor should any rule out the possibility that Tom may dodge this bullet-----or that some future unknown bullet will later get him.
Zendari is not the problem, Delay&co. is.
They that laugh last may indeed laugh best.
Meanwhile I suffer all fools gladly and worry I am one of them.
I certainly hope time proves zendari wrong but he has an equal right to anyone else on this forum to advocate his point of view.
And at the end of the day, its extremely unlikely that any on these forums will have an active role in
deciding the guilt or innocence of Tom Delay.
At another point in time, the gavel in some court will go down and the binary question of guilt or innocence will be decided for the hammer. I confine my rage to Delay, and hope zendari may be then speechless if my preference happens.----and do not rule out the possibility that zendari may independently change his mind when more evidence comes in. Nor should any rule out the possibility that Tom may dodge this bullet-----or that some future unknown bullet will later get him.
Zendari is not the problem, Delay&co. is.
They that laugh last may indeed laugh best.
Meanwhile I suffer all fools gladly and worry I am one of them.
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
It is a touch curious. Personally, I think the topic of DeLay leading the House Republicans deserves it's own thread.
I have a suggestion for a title: Unity by Intimidation . . . the Hammer still rules.
Heh, I appreciate funny as much as the next guy, but I just don't think you understand humor. If Delay ends up going to federal prison, and I made a thread about it, THEN "It's Hammer Time" would be a funny subtitle. See, the idea is that you contrast the unofficial motto of strength and power with the image of Delay going to jail. Using it in a situation where he (in your opinion) is already on top isn't really funny, you're trying to reinforce the message that Delay is winning through the use of that lame ass motto. Not funny. Using the lame motto if Delay goes to jail...very funny. See the difference? 😀
Lemon law
Lifer
Its going to be somewhat of a binary situation.
Either Delay regains the majority leader position and emerges unscathed
or Delay does not.
But its the does not that has so many sub possibilities ---up to and including going to jail.----and even if he escapes the charges by Ronnie Earle, they may be the least of his worries.
So I am waiting to see what happens.-----as he await judgement by his voters, the courts, and his fellow Republicans. Can he maintain the **** eating grin on his photo op mugshot for the long haul?
What was that watergate sound bite---something about dangle slowly in the wind.
Either Delay regains the majority leader position and emerges unscathed
or Delay does not.
But its the does not that has so many sub possibilities ---up to and including going to jail.----and even if he escapes the charges by Ronnie Earle, they may be the least of his worries.
So I am waiting to see what happens.-----as he await judgement by his voters, the courts, and his fellow Republicans. Can he maintain the **** eating grin on his photo op mugshot for the long haul?
What was that watergate sound bite---something about dangle slowly in the wind.
Lemon law
Lifer
Well, here it is 12/11/05 and there is a flash update I just saw on yahoo news.
Seems Ronny Earle is a appealing the dismissal of the one charge the judge dropped
previously. It now looks like the judge will hear that motion and reinstate the charge
or not reinstate the charge depending upon the quality of the arguements.
But this will take time and further delay the start of the actual trial.--not now likely to
start until well after Jan 30/06
And with more motions likely to be heard.
Seems Delays legal tricks are backfiring on him. Getting a new Judge cost a month. Getting one charge possibly dropped is likely to cost better than a month. At this rate it will never come to trial before the Repubs elect a new majority leader from the set of unindicted Republican congresmen.
Poor poor Tom Delay. Getting a little taste from the hair of the dog that bit him. But you keep filing those motions Tom---you will have the criminal justice system eating right out of your hand right quick----stay the course.-------that will teach them to mess with you and your attorney.
You just keep crying justice delayed is justice denied. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Meanwhile file more motions---keep it up--- ya hear me Tom. We are with you here. You will never spend a day in jail-----if convicted it will be time already served by then.
Seems Ronny Earle is a appealing the dismissal of the one charge the judge dropped
previously. It now looks like the judge will hear that motion and reinstate the charge
or not reinstate the charge depending upon the quality of the arguements.
But this will take time and further delay the start of the actual trial.--not now likely to
start until well after Jan 30/06
And with more motions likely to be heard.
Seems Delays legal tricks are backfiring on him. Getting a new Judge cost a month. Getting one charge possibly dropped is likely to cost better than a month. At this rate it will never come to trial before the Repubs elect a new majority leader from the set of unindicted Republican congresmen.
Poor poor Tom Delay. Getting a little taste from the hair of the dog that bit him. But you keep filing those motions Tom---you will have the criminal justice system eating right out of your hand right quick----stay the course.-------that will teach them to mess with you and your attorney.
You just keep crying justice delayed is justice denied. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Meanwhile file more motions---keep it up--- ya hear me Tom. We are with you here. You will never spend a day in jail-----if convicted it will be time already served by then.
DeLay Abandons Bid to Remain House Leader
By Rajiv Chandrasekaran and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, January 7, 2006; 3:12 PM
Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) today abandoned his bid to remain House majority leader, bowing to pressure from a growing number of fellow House Republicans who wanted a permanent leadership change because of his indictment on campaign finance charges.
"The job of majority leader and the mandate of the Republican majority are too important to be hamstrung, even for a few months, by personal distractions," DeLay wrote in a letter to House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). In a separate letter to House Republicans, DeLay said that during his time in Congress, "I have always acted in an ethical manner within the rules of our body and the laws of our land. I am fully confident time will bear this out."
Rep. Tom Delay, R-Texas, decided today to give up his post as House majority leader, clearing the way for new leadership elections among Republicans.
Rep. Tom Delay, R-Texas, decided today to give up his post as House majority leader, clearing the way for new leadership elections among Republicans. (Charles Dharapak - AP)
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DeLay was forced to step aside as majority leader in September after he was indicted in Texas on campaign finance charges. He had hoped that case would be resolved in his favor by the end of January, clearing the way for his return. Instead, it has dragged on through a series of pretrial maneuvers.
In his letter to Hastert, DeLay called the charges against him "baseless" and said he would seek re-election this November.
On Friday, several House Republicans unveiled a petition to hold a special leadership election in the coming weeks. The petition was drafted by moderate Reps. Charles Bass (N.H.) and Christopher Shays (Conn.) and conservative Rep. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) with the support of as many as two dozen members, some of whom have become increasingly concerned about their own political futures because of the charges against DeLay and other scandals involving Republican members of Congress and their staffers.
DeLay's support among his colleagues took a further hit this week when lobbyist Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty to charges of public corruption and conspiracy and agreed to cooperate with federal investigators in what promises to be one of the largest federal bribery scandals in decades. Abramoff's guilty plea includes multiple references to the actions of Tony C. Rudy -- while he was DeLay's deputy chief of staff -- on Abramoff's behalf.
DeLay has repeatedly asserted that the charges in Texas are a politically inspired vendetta by a Democratic prosecutor, Ronnie Earle, and that he has nothing to fear from the Abramoff probe, with which he says he has cooperated fully.
The White House quickly issued a statement praising DeLay's move. "We respect Congressman DeLay's decision to put the interests of the American people, the House of Representatives and the Republican Party first," spokeswoman Erin Healy said.
Prominent Republicans had counseled DeLay in recent days that he should renounce claims to the majority leader's post, for the good of the party and for the good of his long-term political career, leadership aides and DeLay allies said.
"People are worried about the other shoe waiting to drop," Flake said on Friday. "Fairly or not," he said, DeLay has "become the public face of a culture gone bad in Washington."
"Jack Abramoff's guilty plea and his close association with Tom DeLay underscore the need for a new majority leader in the Republican Party," Shays said in a statement Friday. "It is time we make it clear that ethics are an essential part of how we do business and our leadership needs to reflect this strong ethical conduct."
Since DeLay's late-September indictments, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (Mo.) has also served as temporary majority leader, but Hastert promised that this arrangement would not go on indefinitely.
Blunt is widely expected to run for majority leader, as is Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, a former member of the leadership. Elections likely will occur the week of Jan. 30, when lawmakers return to the Capitol.
Both men issued statements today praising DeLay, whose supporters they hope to attract.
"Tom's legacy as one of the most effective Republican leaders in history is assured," Blunt said, according to the Associated Press.
"My belief is that Tom will eventually be cleared and exonerated, and my hope is that our conference will one day again benefit from Tom's rare commitment to the principles of smaller government and freedom for which all Republicans fight," the AP quoted Boehner as saying.
By Rajiv Chandrasekaran and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, January 7, 2006; 3:12 PM
Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) today abandoned his bid to remain House majority leader, bowing to pressure from a growing number of fellow House Republicans who wanted a permanent leadership change because of his indictment on campaign finance charges.
"The job of majority leader and the mandate of the Republican majority are too important to be hamstrung, even for a few months, by personal distractions," DeLay wrote in a letter to House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). In a separate letter to House Republicans, DeLay said that during his time in Congress, "I have always acted in an ethical manner within the rules of our body and the laws of our land. I am fully confident time will bear this out."
Rep. Tom Delay, R-Texas, decided today to give up his post as House majority leader, clearing the way for new leadership elections among Republicans.
Rep. Tom Delay, R-Texas, decided today to give up his post as House majority leader, clearing the way for new leadership elections among Republicans. (Charles Dharapak - AP)
Related Documents
* Text of Letter From DeLay to Hastert
* Text of Letter From DeLay to House GOP
DeLay Indicted
* DeLay Abandons Bid to Remain House Leader
* Tide Turning Against DeLay
* After Abramoff, a GOP Scramble
* Prosecutor Broadens DeLay Inquiry
* The DeLay-Abramoff Money Trail
More Stories
Politics Trivia
President Bush met with former secretaries of state and defense on Thursday at the White House to discuss the war in Iraq. President Lyndon B. Johnson also consulted a group of former policymakers during the Vietnam War. What was the informal name of the group?
the king's men
the wise men
the kitchen cabinet
the secretary's group
Who's Blogging?
Read what bloggers are saying about this article.
* Rocket-powered and nailed to the ground
* Fired Up! America | for responsible government, strong communities, and secure families.
Full List of Blogs (2 links) »
Most Blogged About Articles
On washingtonpost.com | On the web
DeLay was forced to step aside as majority leader in September after he was indicted in Texas on campaign finance charges. He had hoped that case would be resolved in his favor by the end of January, clearing the way for his return. Instead, it has dragged on through a series of pretrial maneuvers.
In his letter to Hastert, DeLay called the charges against him "baseless" and said he would seek re-election this November.
On Friday, several House Republicans unveiled a petition to hold a special leadership election in the coming weeks. The petition was drafted by moderate Reps. Charles Bass (N.H.) and Christopher Shays (Conn.) and conservative Rep. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) with the support of as many as two dozen members, some of whom have become increasingly concerned about their own political futures because of the charges against DeLay and other scandals involving Republican members of Congress and their staffers.
DeLay's support among his colleagues took a further hit this week when lobbyist Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty to charges of public corruption and conspiracy and agreed to cooperate with federal investigators in what promises to be one of the largest federal bribery scandals in decades. Abramoff's guilty plea includes multiple references to the actions of Tony C. Rudy -- while he was DeLay's deputy chief of staff -- on Abramoff's behalf.
DeLay has repeatedly asserted that the charges in Texas are a politically inspired vendetta by a Democratic prosecutor, Ronnie Earle, and that he has nothing to fear from the Abramoff probe, with which he says he has cooperated fully.
The White House quickly issued a statement praising DeLay's move. "We respect Congressman DeLay's decision to put the interests of the American people, the House of Representatives and the Republican Party first," spokeswoman Erin Healy said.
Prominent Republicans had counseled DeLay in recent days that he should renounce claims to the majority leader's post, for the good of the party and for the good of his long-term political career, leadership aides and DeLay allies said.
"People are worried about the other shoe waiting to drop," Flake said on Friday. "Fairly or not," he said, DeLay has "become the public face of a culture gone bad in Washington."
"Jack Abramoff's guilty plea and his close association with Tom DeLay underscore the need for a new majority leader in the Republican Party," Shays said in a statement Friday. "It is time we make it clear that ethics are an essential part of how we do business and our leadership needs to reflect this strong ethical conduct."
Since DeLay's late-September indictments, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (Mo.) has also served as temporary majority leader, but Hastert promised that this arrangement would not go on indefinitely.
Blunt is widely expected to run for majority leader, as is Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, a former member of the leadership. Elections likely will occur the week of Jan. 30, when lawmakers return to the Capitol.
Both men issued statements today praising DeLay, whose supporters they hope to attract.
"Tom's legacy as one of the most effective Republican leaders in history is assured," Blunt said, according to the Associated Press.
"My belief is that Tom will eventually be cleared and exonerated, and my hope is that our conference will one day again benefit from Tom's rare commitment to the principles of smaller government and freedom for which all Republicans fight," the AP quoted Boehner as saying.
loup garou
Lifer
as usual
DealMonkey
Lifer
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?! :roll:
catnap1972
Platinum Member
Throw in something about 'activist judges' and 'blatantly corrupt prosecutors'
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