The Worst Decisions in Videogame History

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Away

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I think the worst decision in history is when I decided to buy a TurboGrafx 16 (don't remember the spelling for sure) and a Panasonic 3DO back in the day.
 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: Malak
Just about every decision Nintendo ever made was bad actually.


I guess that's why they went out of business so quickly.

Hahaha :thumbsup:

It still astounds me how little people really know about Nintendo as a business. Nintendo has been minting currency for years, and they have huge cash reserves.

Didn't Nintendo make the most percentage net profit during this generation? They made considerable profit from all their platforms. Their DS is rolling, and Cube made a decent profit.

I don't see any of their decisions as being bad. They still make quite a bit of $$$$$$.
...

And frankly, that's all that matters.

And I 100% disagree w/ the notion that Nintendo dropping Sony for the CD idea was bad in the industry. Because of that, we have great competition, better games from all companies, better hardware from all companies, etc...

xbox probably wouldn't exist today if Sony was around, etc..

Nintendo continues to innovate w/ cool handhelds and w/ the promising controller in the revolution, and do so due to competition.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
The PS2 made a profit right from it's launch. If it sold at a loss, Sony won't even bother selling them in piracy-infested countries.

Pretty sure that from everything I've read, they did take a loss in hardware for a while. Made up with licensing fees.

http://www.actsofgord.com/Proclamations/chapter02.html

not initially. but they kept cost cutting it to profit. there are over 12 revisions. this time ms owns its ip and can do the same.

http://marcustroiano.com/blog/2005/06/page/2/
By comparison, the PlayStation 2 was in profit within two years, having taken a $0.46 billion loss in the first year but reversed it with a $0.76 billion profit in the second year. The Xbox, however, has remained in loss throughout its lifespan to date - and the Xbox 360 is expected to be subsidised to the tune of $80 to $100 when it launches.
 

KoolDrew

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Clearly one of the biggest controllers in videogame history as well as one of the most uncomfortable

The fat Xbox controller is one of the most comfortable I have used. I don't understand all the hate surrounding this controller. It fits in your hands perfectly and my hands are not big either.
 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Clearly one of the biggest controllers in videogame history as well as one of the most uncomfortable

The fat Xbox controller is one of the most comfortable I have used. I don't understand all the hate surrounding this controller. It fits in your hands perfectly and my hands are not big either.

hehe, i thought the playstation controller was the worse. The XBOX contoller actually created the least amount of strain, pain and tendinitis for me. The PS controller, UGH, my hand is in pain after about 2 hours use. Gamecube controller's pretty awesome, but it hurts after a few hours.

Never had such a problem w/ the XBOX big controller, although, it did feel awekward at first.
 
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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Originally posted by: Malak
Just about every decision Nintendo ever made was bad actually.

Mario64, MarioKart64, Goldeneye, Starfox64!!@!@!!!
I'll give you Goldeneye, but otherwise, you supported his statement.

Wrong. The other three games are excellent aswell.
Wrong. They suck, and yes - I've played them all.

Wrong. Your opinion is wrong.

:thumbsup:
 

Dulanic

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Originally posted by: raystorm
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: raystorm
Nintendo's Virtual Boy was a disaster. Just awful and it even gave people headaches. I did like that tennis game for it though.


Sega has made plenty of dumb decisions such as the 32X, releasing the Saturn early in the US (with that ugly remade controller instead of the superior japanese one), not localizing the many excellent Saturn games in Japan..etc.


man i had the SEga 32X and the Sega CD. sigh such a waste of money.



heh.. I had the Master System, Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, Game Gear...etc.. I was a glutton for punishment when it came to Sega hardware.

One thing made me get the Sega CD... Lunar: The Silver Star... but I did really enjoy that game. So sad Working Designs offically closed their doors last year.
 

Legend

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: Malak
Just about every decision Nintendo ever made was bad actually.


I guess that's why they went out of business so quickly.

Hahaha :thumbsup:

It still astounds me how little people really know about Nintendo as a business. Nintendo has been minting currency for years, and they have huge cash reserves.

Didn't Nintendo make the most percentage net profit during this generation? They made considerable profit from all their platforms. Their DS is rolling, and Cube made a decent profit.

I don't see any of their decisions as being bad. They still make quite a bit of $$$$$$.
...

And frankly, that's all that matters.

And I 100% disagree w/ the notion that Nintendo dropping Sony for the CD idea was bad in the industry. Because of that, we have great competition, better games from all companies, better hardware from all companies, etc...

xbox probably wouldn't exist today if Sony was around, etc..

Nintendo continues to innovate w/ cool handhelds and w/ the promising controller in the revolution, and do so due to competition.

It's because Nintendo keeps optimizing profits while sacrificing marketshare. It's like GM/Ford 15 years ago. Very short sighted.

I will say that DS suprised me. It's doing much better than expected. Had it not, Nintendo's handheld and console market would have been cornered, and they're cash farm would start dieing.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Originally posted by: Malak
Just about every decision Nintendo ever made was bad actually.

Mario64, MarioKart64, Goldeneye, Starfox64!!@!@!!!
I'll give you Goldeneye, but otherwise, you supported his statement.

Wrong. The other three games are excellent aswell.
Wrong. They suck, and yes - I've played them all.

I'll take that to mean that your opinions are about as useful as your consitant BS neffing. 4000 posts in 4 months = you need a life.

Getting in an argument over mario games = you need one too.
 

Malak

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It's easy for Nintendo to make a profit when they outsource their consoles to playskool, and they market their games to 11 year olds that can only be calmed down by their parents sitting them in front of a TV. I did play Mario when it came to the US and to this day I still didn't think it was that great. There are more exciting games on the Atari.
 

ZoomStop

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Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: Malak
Just about every decision Nintendo ever made was bad actually.


I guess that's why they went out of business so quickly.

Hahaha :thumbsup:

It still astounds me how little people really know about Nintendo as a business. Nintendo has been minting currency for years, and they have huge cash reserves.

Didn't Nintendo make the most percentage net profit during this generation? They made considerable profit from all their platforms. Their DS is rolling, and Cube made a decent profit.

I don't see any of their decisions as being bad. They still make quite a bit of $$$$$$.
...

And frankly, that's all that matters.

And I 100% disagree w/ the notion that Nintendo dropping Sony for the CD idea was bad in the industry. Because of that, we have great competition, better games from all companies, better hardware from all companies, etc...

xbox probably wouldn't exist today if Sony was around, etc..

Nintendo continues to innovate w/ cool handhelds and w/ the promising controller in the revolution, and do so due to competition.

It's because Nintendo keeps optimizing profits while sacrificing marketshare. It's like GM/Ford 15 years ago. Very short sighted.

I will say that DS suprised me. It's doing much better than expected. Had it not, Nintendo's handheld and console market would have been cornered, and they're cash farm would start dieing.

Never underestimate the power of 12 year olds and Pokémon :confused: (or Nintendogs)
 

ZoomStop

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Originally posted by: Away
I think the worst decision in history is when I decided to buy a TurboGrafx 16 (don't remember the spelling for sure) and a Panasonic 3DO back in the day.


I've still got the Atari Jaguar I paid $250 for in '94 along with Jaguar CD I paid $150 for collecting dust in the closet. Times were good playing Dragon's Lair on it though.
 

ViviTheMage

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nintendo isnt full of all screwups, they definatly made some great games, and are still in business, so somethign has to be going right! There are a lot of systems that died, some that we may not even know about. It just seems like nintendo, sony, and now microsoft are some top console makers.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
nintendo isnt full of all screwups, they definatly made some great games, and are still in business, so somethign has to be going right! There are a lot of systems that died, some that we may not even know about. It just seems like nintendo, sony, and now microsoft are some top console makers.

Nintendo has been in business longer than either company, they were making card games in the late 1800's. Lifespan of a company, however, does not equate to quality of product. They suck at consoles.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Malak
Nintendo has been in business longer than either company, they were making card games in the late 1800's. Lifespan of a company, however, does not equate to quality of product. They suck at consoles.

Why is that?
 

rocadelpunk

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Jul 23, 2001
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"Nintendo would eventually fold the system, and Yokoi would eventually leave the company in shame, only to die years later in an auto accident."

that's some nice writing.
 

BigPoppa

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Malak
Nintendo has been in business longer than either company, they were making card games in the late 1800's. Lifespan of a company, however, does not equate to quality of product. They suck at consoles.

Why is that?

Malak is incapable of seperating graphics from gameplay. To this day I'd rather play Chrono Trigger on the SNES or Xenogears on the PS1 than any other console RPGs. Their graphics are horrid by today's standards, but they are brilliant games in storyline and gameplay. Chrono Triggers graphics are very vibrant and have an anime/cartoony style (Artist for the Dragonball series did the art for CT).

To bring it towards Nintendo:

All the zelda games EVER have been great. NES to Gamecube. If Malak would take the time, he'd see that behind the cute graphics of the latest Zelda games there is deep, fun gameplay.

The mariokart series:

Someone above described it as simplistic, and I would agree with that. But that doesn't mean you can't be 10x better than another player. There aren't 115 options to set up on your car like Gran Turismo. You pick a racer, possibly a car in the latest version, and they have a feel. Even with the exact same character, its very possible to beat another player by a huge margin just because you take corners better, know when to brake, etc. The games have deep gameplay and REPLAYABILITY.
 

ZoomStop

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Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Malak
Nintendo has been in business longer than either company, they were making card games in the late 1800's. Lifespan of a company, however, does not equate to quality of product. They suck at consoles.

Why is that?

Malak is incapable of seperating graphics from gameplay. To this day I'd rather play Chrono Trigger on the SNES or Xenogears on the PS1 than any other console RPGs. Their graphics are horrid by today's standards, but they are brilliant games in storyline and gameplay. Chrono Triggers graphics are very vibrant and have an anime/cartoony style (Artist for the Dragonball series did the art for CT).

To bring it towards Nintendo:

All the zelda games EVER have been great. NES to Gamecube. If Malak would take the time, he'd see that behind the cute graphics of the latest Zelda games there is deep, fun gameplay.

The mariokart series:

Someone above described it as simplistic, and I would agree with that. But that doesn't mean you can't be 10x better than another player. There aren't 115 options to set up on your car like Gran Turismo. You pick a racer, possibly a car in the latest version, and they have a feel. Even with the exact same character, its very possible to beat another player by a huge margin just because you take corners better, know when to brake, etc. The games have deep gameplay and REPLAYABILITY.

QFT on many levels. Too many kiddies in here are commenting on how the old Ninetndo systems/games suck when the only time they ever played the older games is when they fired them up on an emulator. PSOne was the first system as far as they care. They didn't rush home in '87 with a Copy of Final Fantasy 1 that they just paid $70 for. Crammed the game in the system (blew dust out and tried again) and lost control of their lives for a few days.
But with rare exceptions the golden age of gaming is done for. The push for 3D and realism leaves little room in the budget for story and gameplay.
 

RiDE

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Tthe typical American is impressed by shiny new consoles that are marketed with superlatives.
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: RiDE
Tthe typical American is impressed by shiny new consoles that are marketed with superlatives.

And sex and violence in games.
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: joedrake
No, you see, if I were 11 years old, then I would enjoy those three games :)
And when exactly will you be turning eleven?
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Malak is incapable of seperating graphics from gameplay.

I bet I have played older games this very day than you have. My favorite FF's were FF5 and FFT, ones that didn't necessarily have great graphics. And I'll still play them today. My favorite Zelda, and in fact the only ones I would play, were the ones on the NES. My favorite games are old and have outdated graphics, like Diablo and crimsonland. The only MMO I've been playing lately is shattered galaxy, an old MMORTS with graphics from 1998.

And I was playing text adventures while you were still rubbing poop all over your face and screaming like a german kid on a sugar high while playing OMGQUAKEWTFBBQ, so stfu.