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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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darkewaffle said:
Track record of one game with unplayably poor controls and boring story and one game which presumably made those... marginally better?

:awe:

I get that people are "rooting" for CDPR, but they've released one good game (so I hear) and one crap game (speaking from experience) lol.
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Unplayably poor controls? Maybe if you have the reflexes of a sloth...
 
darkewaffle said:
Track record of one game with unplayably poor controls and boring story and one game which presumably made those... marginally better?

:awe:

I get that people are "rooting" for CDPR, but they've released one good game (so I hear) and one crap game (speaking from experience) lol.
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My experience at age of 51 so my reflexes are probably a lot slower then yours,controls I had no issues with,storyline was good in fact better then a lot of other RPGs or even some FPS games I could mention.

I've only played both games three to four times each from start to end so what do I know about experience 🙄 .

W3 CE pre-ordered and I can't wait to play the game.
 
irishScott said:
Unplayably poor controls? Maybe if you have the reflexes of a sloth...
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It wasn't a matter of quickness but rather of interest - the combat controls were unimaginative (if serviceable) at best and turned combat into a drudge, a problem for a game with no shortage of it. I wanted to actively avoid encounters - hence, they made me not want to play. I thought the arbitrary damage scaling based on your 'stance' was pretty silly too (I think I recall my "AoE" attack stance dealing more damage per target to four X enemies than it does to one X enemy?) Plus the camera was all over the place - I remember being really annoyed with it's collision detection.

At no point did the story get me to care about what was happening - I could never connect with Geralt. And to make matters worse, I don't recall Geralt ever really connecting with other characters either - even your 'friends' in at the very beginning of the game felt like strangers or generic NPCs, not your companions. I guess you could attribute that to the memory loss, but most of the people you meet are treated with similar apathy (unless you can sleep with them, which moves the needle slightly). It was hard for me to get invested in the mission when it didn't seem like Geralt could be bothered to do so either.
 
darkewaffle said:
I could never connect with Geralt. And to make matters worse, I don't recall Geralt ever really connecting with other characters either - even your 'friends' in at the very beginning of the game felt like strangers or generic NPCs, not your companions. I guess you could attribute that to the memory loss, but most of the people you meet are treated with similar apathy (unless you can sleep with them, which moves the needle slightly). It was hard for me to get invested in the mission when it didn't seem like Geralt could be bothered to do so either.
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I'm just going to say a few thing. You said somewhere that you quit in the swamp so you definitely quit far too early for the old buddy old pal moments. You don't BW having those moments in the first part of the game, and likewise CDPR didn't have those moments either till later in the game after you've had more interaction with them. Geralt doesn't really remember these people so its logical not to act like old buddies.

Second in the other Witcher thread I noticed you really didn't get what was going on with "Leo's" spirit and the King of the Wild Hunt so don't get too critical of the story when you aren't bothering to understand it and aren't realizing they are setting up a mystery as to why the Hunt is interested in Geralt and that's the question you should be asking. To expect more would be like spoiling who the PC is in KotOR before you left Taris. Its the major point in the third game and you don't figure it out until the end of the second.

I get that you don't like the Witcher, different strokes right? But honestly you do feel the need to go on about it in practically every Witcher thread I've seen for a series you've not even completed 2/5's of one game. I'm guilty of that as well with some titles but when I do its typically sequels that diverge from their originals and I've at least completed more than what amounts to the introduction. So what did the Witcher do to personally offend you or is this some of that BioWare fans vs. Witcher fans ridiculousness? I really don't get the vehemence for a series you barely played.
 
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darkewaffle said:
At no point did the story get me to care about what was happening - I could never connect with Geralt. And to make matters worse, I don't recall Geralt ever really connecting with other characters either - even your 'friends' in at the very beginning of the game felt like strangers or generic NPCs, not your companions. I guess you could attribute that to the memory loss, but most of the people you meet are treated with similar apathy (unless you can sleep with them, which moves the needle slightly). It was hard for me to get invested in the mission when it didn't seem like Geralt could be bothered to do so either.
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The NPCs from the TW games are lifted straight from Sapkowski's books. A lot of that back story isn't fully fleshed out in the games.
 
darkewaffle said:
It wasn't a matter of quickness but rather of interest - the combat controls were unimaginative (if serviceable) at best and turned combat into a drudge, a problem for a game with no shortage of it. I wanted to actively avoid encounters - hence, they made me not want to play. I thought the arbitrary damage scaling based on your 'stance' was pretty silly too (I think I recall my "AoE" attack stance dealing more damage per target to four X enemies than it does to one X enemy?) Plus the camera was all over the place - I remember being really annoyed with it's collision detection.

At no point did the story get me to care about what was happening - I could never connect with Geralt. And to make matters worse, I don't recall Geralt ever really connecting with other characters either - even your 'friends' in at the very beginning of the game felt like strangers or generic NPCs, not your companions. I guess you could attribute that to the memory loss, but most of the people you meet are treated with similar apathy (unless you can sleep with them, which moves the needle slightly). It was hard for me to get invested in the mission when it didn't seem like Geralt could be bothered to do so either.
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Having played Witcher 2, I will say that you get the "companion moments" from the very start of the game to near the ending.
 
Bateluer said:
The NPCs from the TW games are lifted straight from Sapkowski's books. A lot of that back story isn't fully fleshed out in the games.
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I really didn't find the background necessary. Did you?

They captured the important bits and that's the characterization. I don't need to read the books to know Dandelion is irreverent, a womanizer, and prone to getting himself into trouble. Or that Zoltan is hard working, loyal, but sympathizes with the Squirrels while despising their methods. Its all there in the game.

The journal has some of it but it really wouldn't work with Geralt's amnesia to get a full back story in a journal and there's no way they'd be able to cover most of it with dialogue.
 
ArenCordial said:
I really didn't find the background necessary. Did you?

They captured the important bits and that's the characterization. I don't need to read the books to know Dandelion is irreverent, a womanizer, and prone to getting himself into trouble. Or that Zoltan is hard working, loyal, but sympathizes with the Squirrels while despising their methods. Its all there in the game.

The journal has some of it but it really wouldn't work with Geralt's amnesia to get a full back story in a journal and there's no way they'd be able to cover most of it with dialogue.
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I liked the background info,helped and if I really wanted a dumbed down game I would just buy a console game,nice that developers go that extra mile to give you something more unlike some developers out there or even games I could mention.
 
From what I've read this is the end of geralts story, but that doesn't mean the end of the witcher series of games. Probably just creating the ability for them to pull some world decisions from this game into another story line.
 
ArenCordial said:
I'm just going to say a few thing. You said somewhere that you quit in the swamp so you definitely quit far too early for the old buddy old pal moments. You don't BW having those moments in the first part of the game, and likewise CDPR didn't have those moments either till later in the game after you've had more interaction with them. Geralt doesn't really remember these people so its logical not to act like old buddies.

Second in the other Witcher thread I noticed you really didn't get what was going on with "Leo's" spirit and the King of the Wild Hunt so don't get too critical of the story when you aren't bothering to understand it and aren't realizing they are setting up a mystery as to why the Hunt is interested in Geralt and that's the question you should be asking. To expect more would be like spoiling who the PC is in KotOR before you left Taris. Its the major point in the third game and you don't figure it out until the end of the second.

I get that you don't like the Witcher, different strokes right? But honestly you do feel the need to go on about it in practically every Witcher thread I've seen for a series you've not even completed 2/5's of one game. I'm guilty of that as well with some titles but when I do its typically sequels that diverge from their originals and I've at least completed more than what amounts to the introduction. So what did the Witcher do to personally offend you or is this some of that BioWare fans vs. Witcher fans ridiculousness? I really don't get the vehemence for a series you barely played.
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I don't expect him to be buddy buddy with everyone, but I felt like he lacked even a basic level of humanity and it didn't really make for a compelling protagonist. He doesn't have to be nice, he just has to be "something" and I would have found it more interesting - and I never got that. It was like playing A Bard's Tale but with none of the humor or wit and twice the apathy.

As the ever amusing Yahtzee said, I'm not about to check myself into bedlam on the off chance they're serving ice cream. If it gets better, I'll take your word for it. But after getting 20 hours into a game still feeling like I haven't gotten to the (or really, just a) good part yet, I decided it was better to cut my losses. I don't think it was so much mysterious as just ambiguous - the game didn't tell you a lot, but it also didn't make me want to know more. And don't take my lack of recollection for a lack of effort or comprehension - I gave it the old college try, but it was three plus years ago and the key being that Witcher didn't give me a reason to care. So whatever detail and nuance (or even charm) that may have been there I didn't have a reason to retain.

There were bright spots - there was some event in the swamp where you could choose to tell some elf encampment of an attack from some human troops (which would probably save them, the 'underdog' of sorts - but betray 'your people') or not tell them and they would presumably be slaughtered or captured or something. It was an interesting dilemma, I struggled with what I wanted to do and I cared - even if Geralt still didn't lol. But finding something compelling seemed to be more the exception than the rule.

I make no attempt to go on, but I will make an opinion and support it as necessary. A post doesn't have to praise a game to be valid or relevant. In much the same way some people will discourage others from playing DA2 or buying a Madden game or playing something on a console, I'm merely representing one side of the coin (perhaps die is more appropriate). I will say that I was excited years ago to have both DAO and The Witcher 'lined up' to dive into and had high expectations for both after the media and positive reviews I'd seen for them - expansive, engrossing, lush fantasy RPGs. But I'd say they were only half right lol. It was frustrating putting a not insignificant amount of time into a game that never (for me) delivered.
 
Mem said:
They gave him a beard which as you know can make you look older.
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Kilgore23 said:
Am I the only one who didn't really care for the witcher 2? I never finished it, but then again I never really wanted to either
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I thought act 3 felt a bit hastily put together.
 
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