Thanks for the info! I don't know a wink from a HA from a hole in the ground thus far.
Awesome stuff you're doing with this! Lots of great ideas. Turning off the bathroom outlet..! (recalling the few times I've found a live hair curler left in the bathroom when she was in a hurry...) that's a brilliant idea!
That is *exactly* why I did it. We carpool in the morning and I got tired of having to frequently turn around because she thought she left her hair flat iron plugged in and powered. Now, it doesn't matter - the outlet gets turned off when we leave and then she has to turn it back on in the morning to use it. I've also got sensors on my garage doors and I receive text messages when they open or close - I'd often be in a hurry and couldn't remember for sure if I closed the door but now, I just have to look at my text messages or view a camera in the garage. I could automate that even more by getting smart garage door openers but I'm a little leary of those.
This GeoFence thing sounds amazing.
Sounds like Hubitat is the way to go? I don't think I'll ever achieve your level of automated home, but it'll be nice to know whatever I invest in can be expanded in the future.
Waaaaay back when I had those old X10 switches on everything and I thought that was pretty nifty- now all this new stuff blows my mind. So much more advanced!
I'm just starting to get into Hubitat now, even though I preordered it and received it in January. I like SmartThings - I like it a lot, in fact, but it seems to work rock solid and fast for a few months and then work sporadically for awhile. Here are some other comparisons:
1. Hubitat doesn't have a mobile app, while SmartThings does. I believe they are building a mobile app for Hubitat but I have no ETA. For Hubitat, they have a dashboard you use in a mobile browser.
2. SmartThings has a big community and a lot of device support from that community, whereas Hubitat may not natively support as many devices, but it is largely compatible (or semi-compatible) with SmartThings device code so most of those integrations from ST will work with Hubitat one way or another. Many SmartThings community members are moving to Hubitat because the founders of Hubitat were former SmartThings community developers who got tired of SmartThings and they've tried to leverage a lot of the code from SmartThings while building a better platform.
3. Hubitat runs everything (except cloud integrated HA devices) locally, whereas SmartThings is more cloud-focused with SOME local execution.
4. SmartThings has a HUGE Achille's heel and it is another reason I will probably start moving to Hubitat more seriously. There is NO - none, nada, zip - way to back up your SmartThings hub. If my hub died tomorrow, I am screwed - I'd have to add my devices back manually to a new ST hub. Hubitat makes an allowance for this - the zwave/ZigBee antenna is an external USB dongle so if that hub dies, you can order a new hub, plug in your old stick, and everything should connect back up - or at least, that's my understanding.
5. SmartThings has the community developed webCoRE, which is an incredible rules and automation engine. A version of webCoRE exists for Hubitat (I just installed it last week), but I haven't tested to see how it works in comparison to SmartThings' version. webCoRE made such a huge impact on SmartThings that Samsung actually hired the guy who wrote it to work on the SmartThings team.
6. Samsung is exerting more and more control over SmartThings and is pushing them to implement things in a way which is probably too aggressive, IMO. Since last fall, we've seen a lot of instability because Samsung made promises about SmartThings at one of the many trade conferences and SmartThings is killing themselves (and making a lot of mistakes) trying to meet those commitments. Samsung's goal is to make SmartThings the central nervous system for ALL of their product lines - appliances, HA, etc.
7. SmartThings has another third-party piece of software called ActionTiles, which allows you to build custom home automation dashboards. Many people buy the cheap Amazon Fire tablets, the Fully browser, and mount them on the walls around the house for control purposes. I don't believe ActionTiles exists for Hubitat yet, but Hubitat does have other dashboard tools.
My advice would be that if you want to experiment now, the SmartThings v2 hub often does on sale for around $50 so it is a cheap way to enter HA and play.around with it. I'd steer clear of the SmartThings v3 hub - v2 is actually more powerful.