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Zaap

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Haha..

Wife Acceptance Factor.

If you're married, really its the only tech term that matters.
 

luv2liv

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what kind of smart lock can i replace these locks with?
once the 2 locks are unlocked, the 2 doors swing open. i cannot replaced the doors with 1 big single door because they are part of history in my area.

 
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what kind of smart lock can i replace these locks with?
once the 2 locks are unlocked, the 2 doors swing open. i cannot replaced the doors with 1 big single door because they are part of history in my area.

I cant find one for a "single cylinder interlocking deadbolt" style which is what that looks like.
 

luv2liv

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single cylinder interlocking deadbolt
yes, that's what i have now.
and I have yet to see a smart version of it. so what are my options?
i will try to take it apart and see if a standard deadbolt works then upgrade to a smart deadbolt. but i doubt it.
 

gorcorps

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I got my smartthings hub in and installed it over the weekend. Also installed my GE z-wave motion sensing switch for the garage lights. Also installed a door sensor on the interior door going into the garage.

First order of business was to find a way of flashing the lights in the garage as a reminder for trash or recycling day. I went through all of the routines and other options on the smartthings app and found I couldn't do what I wanted easily through what's included. I couldn't even schedule something to happen every OTHER week like I needed for recycle day.

Down the google rabbit hole I go, and found I needed webcore to do the more custom/intricate things I had in mind. First order of business was to force the lights to flash on and off 5 times when I opened the garage door. I was able to get that working relatively quickly with a couple tweaks to the "piston" figuring out how long I wanted the cycles to last. Then I figured out relatively quickly how to make sure that happens every Tuesday (trash day). Perfect, as far as I know it's set up correctly and I'll know tomorrow morning if it works or not.

I had to google around to find a way to get the every other week schedule to work properly, and what I found is that there's nothing in place to do that automatically and there's a number of different ways to do it. I settled on creating a variable called "week" which is just an integer for week number, which I set to 34 for last week. I created a piston which runs every Sunday, and indexes the week number by 1 (I just checked and the week number is now 35, so that looks like it worked... hooray!). If the week number was already at 52, then it resets the week number to "1" and starts counting again after that. Now that I have a week number, I was able to schedule my "recycling day" light flashing piston to only happen on every Thursday but only on EVEN weeks. Now I've successfully got an "every other week" schedule running.

Given the lengths I had to go through just to get an "every other week" schedule, I don't think this system is ready for prime time as far as home users go, but I actually enjoyed setting it up. While webcore isn't the most intuitive, it's friendly enough for someone like me to figure out a way to do what I want to do... even if there's no built in way to do it. I actually find things like that fun, it's almost like a puzzle trying to figure out how to use the limited set of rules you're given to run automation the way you intended it to run.
Well, something is wrong and my routines haven't worked this week. I haven't dug into it yet, but it's frustrating that only after a month and a half something is broken.
 
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Well, something is wrong and my routines haven't worked this week. I haven't dug into it yet, but it's frustrating that only after a month and a half something is broken.
Have you noticed a specific device type being affected? I was having issues and noted my zwave devices were affected. I ran a zwave network repair and everything is working great again.
 

gorcorps

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Have you noticed a specific device type being affected? I was having issues and noted my zwave devices were affected. I ran a zwave network repair and everything is working great again.
Yes, the only thing I have automated so far is involving a z-wave light switch. I'll have to dig into that.
 

MaxDepth

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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2018-10-26/pdf/2018-23241.pdf

[Specifically for this thread - Sections 5, 6, 7, and 8 - page 20]
The Librarian of the Library of Congress issued new circumvention rules to the DMCA. In particular to this thread Section 5 is about cell phones, Section 6 is portable devices that are not single use (like the old Nano), Section 7 is TVs and Section 8 is about home automation devices.

You are now free to reverse engineer these devices in the name of interoperability. Meaning, you are free to overlay your own or modify the device so that you can have it work well with other devices.


Go hug a Librarian!
 

jrlnc

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I’ve been having considerable issues with SmartThings lately. So many, in fact, that I think I’ve decided to go ahead and start transitioning everything to Hubitat this fall. It all seemed to start around the time I switched to a Samsung account (from the normal ST account), but many others are also see lots of delays and other issues as well. This is going to really suck since I have over 180 devices and probably 30-40 more left to install.
Hi Indy, I hope you still post here. I've been very quiet lately but still reading what little information there has been about Wink.
I've basically come to the conclusion that Wink is truly dead. At least I'm not willing to wait on it anymore.

Like you, I can't do without Home Automation. But there were really no compelling alternatives for me. Apple HomeKit is vaporware and although ST has (had) a lot of promise I think that the user community's goodwill towards it has been squandered by Samsung. I almost moved to ST from Wink, but after hearing about their outages and knowing first-hand about Samsung's shoddy product support through some of their other products I did not want to go that direction.

When I heard about Hubitat, it sounded almost too good to be true. It has been growing and improving at a rapid pace. I made the jump a couple weeks ago and bought their Hub. I slowly moved devices over to see how well it worked with my simple Zigbee & ZWave products. That done, I was pleased to find they have very good integration with Lutron Caseta (which I have a big $$$ investment in for dimmers, switches, pico remotes and Serena Shades). The clincher was Hubitat's support for my Phillips Hue hub and cloud support for my Ecobee products and some support for Amazon Alexa. Those are the major items.

After moving all those things over from Wink, I reset my Wink2 hub and unplugged it. Good Riddance!

My only loss really is that I have 3 Relays that now are just dumb switches. Hope maybe I can do something with them in the future.

I am cautiously optimistic about Hubitat. But even if they went belly-up tomorrow, I can still use the hub locally and do most of what I want/need.
 
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Hi Indy, I hope you still post here. I've been very quiet lately but still reading what little information there has been about Wink.
I've basically come to the conclusion that Wink is truly dead. At least I'm not willing to wait on it anymore.

Like you, I can't do without Home Automation. But there were really no compelling alternatives for me. Apple HomeKit is vaporware and although ST has (had) a lot of promise I think that the user community's goodwill towards it has been squandered by Samsung. I almost moved to ST from Wink, but after hearing about their outages and knowing first-hand about Samsung's shoddy product support through some of their other products I did not want to go that direction.

When I heard about Hubitat, it sounded almost too good to be true. It has been growing and improving at a rapid pace. I made the jump a couple weeks ago and bought their Hub. I slowly moved devices over to see how well it worked with my simple Zigbee & ZWave products. That done, I was pleased to find they have very good integration with Lutron Caseta (which I have a big $$$ investment in for dimmers, switches, pico remotes and Serena Shades). The clincher was Hubitat's support for my Phillips Hue hub and cloud support for my Ecobee products and some support for Amazon Alexa. Those are the major items.

After moving all those things over from Wink, I reset my Wink2 hub and unplugged it. Good Riddance!

My only loss really is that I have 3 Relays that now are just dumb switches. Hope maybe I can do something with them in the future.

I am cautiously optimistic about Hubitat. But even if they went belly-up tomorrow, I can still use the hub locally and do most of what I want/need.
It turns out that my main issue with SmartThings turned out to be an issue with my z-wave mesh. Once I repaired it, most of the issues I had disappeared. Because of that, I haven't moved anything over to Hubitat since I returned from my vacation.

One problem area I still have with ST is the Lutron stuff. When I first implemented Lutron stuff on ST, it seemed as fast as my Wink implementation even though it was all cloud-based. Lately though, I'm seeing big delays using webCore to sync to Casetas. For example, if I turn one Caseta switch on, I need another Caseta to turn on. It used to be fairly quick but for whatever reason, it is now very slow - sometimes the second set of lights won't come on for several minutes, if at all. So after hearing my wife complain repeatedly, I grabbed a Lutron Pro hub off eBay and hope that Hubitat speaking with the Lutron hub locally will make the response time almost immediate. I also will move a motion sensor I have in that room over to Hubitat as well.
 

killster1

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Hi Indy, I hope you still post here. I've been very quiet lately but still reading what little information there has been about Wink.
I've basically come to the conclusion that Wink is truly dead. At least I'm not willing to wait on it anymore.

Like you, I can't do without Home Automation. But there were really no compelling alternatives for me. Apple HomeKit is vaporware and although ST has (had) a lot of promise I think that the user community's goodwill towards it has been squandered by Samsung. I almost moved to ST from Wink, but after hearing about their outages and knowing first-hand about Samsung's shoddy product support through some of their other products I did not want to go that direction.

When I heard about Hubitat, it sounded almost too good to be true. It has been growing and improving at a rapid pace. I made the jump a couple weeks ago and bought their Hub. I slowly moved devices over to see how well it worked with my simple Zigbee & ZWave products. That done, I was pleased to find they have very good integration with Lutron Caseta (which I have a big $$$ investment in for dimmers, switches, pico remotes and Serena Shades). The clincher was Hubitat's support for my Phillips Hue hub and cloud support for my Ecobee products and some support for Amazon Alexa. Those are the major items.

After moving all those things over from Wink, I reset my Wink2 hub and unplugged it. Good Riddance!

My only loss really is that I have 3 Relays that now are just dumb switches. Hope maybe I can do something with them in the future.

I am cautiously optimistic about Hubitat. But even if they went belly-up tomorrow, I can still use the hub locally and do most of what I want/need.

i have been using smart things for many years, not sure how long exactly but long enough for the batteries to leak acid ;) .. my issue is recently i had false alarm with bosch motion detector. So my plan was to set up two motion detectors in each room. If they both activate then the alarm will trigger. Maybe this will help the 1x false alarm i have got.

The only thing i can think of is the heater was on and maybe the warm air circulating set it off. Also thought of routing the air away from the sensor.
 

Zaap

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oops, wrong thread. Didn't realize there were two.
 
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