The White House's second intern class -----MAWA

[Stopsignhank]

This is classic "But Whataboutism" The topic was the fact that there is only one person of color in the intern class and the rest are lily white. Since the topic cannot be won you change the topic by saying, But What about..............

Hopefully this video embeds right, if not go to 6:31 in.

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynec...s-trump-has-cut-red-tape-so-far/#59b832f2369d

Annnnnnd here come the fact free right wing blog posts.

First, an opinion piece from an ultra right wing think tank is not a credible source. Second, this piece has exactly zero empirical evidence linking last year’s economic growth to deregulation.

Again, please provide empirical evidence, not faith based arguments.

 

[fskimospy]

Trumps tweets and shit yes I’ll admit if I were a minority I’d be pissed. The wall secured the border. Not just from rapist and drug dealers like he says (bs scare tactics to sell the thing), but against all illegal immigrants trying to cross over. If I’m a black guy I’d want the border secured just as much as a white guy.

The goal being antipathy towards POC is ridiculous. I’m sorry, but yes it is about border security. I agree it’s a waste of money and will be ineffective and shouldn’t be built, I disagree that the push to build it is just racist Nazi white people hate anybody of color.

I’ll ask again, do you think the border should be secured?

You just simultaneously argued that the wall would secure the border and that it would be ineffective.

As for antipathy towards POC that much is obvious. Not only did he start his campaign based on racism, his racism has been one of the few things he has been entirely consistent on for his entire life. I don’t think any reasonable person could argue that Trump isn’t a racist.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Annnnnnd here come the fact free right wing blog posts.

First, an opinion piece from an ultra right wing think tank is not a credible source. Second, this piece has exactly zero empirical evidence linking last year’s economic growth to deregulation.

Again, please provide empirical evidence, not faith based arguments.

Forbes is a right wing think tank?

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trumps-deregulation-binge/

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...key-to-business-expansion-and-economic-growth


I work in a very heavily regulated industry. When Dodd Frank came out the cost of compliance grew significantly. This shut down many smaller lenders and caused small banks to exit the market or consolidate. The result of which is the size of banks are growing again (to big to fail anyone?) and very little of this helps the consumer. I’m not saying no regulation because it’s very much needed, but it needs to be smart regulation which we don’t have now. And there needs to be damned clear guidance from the regulators which we certainly don’t have.

Yes regulation is a tax on the economy.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You just simultaneously argued that the wall would secure the border and that it would be ineffective.

As for antipathy towards POC that much is obvious. Not only did he start his campaign based on racism, his racism has been one of the few things he has been entirely consistent on for his entire life. I don’t think any reasonable person could argue that Trump isn’t a racist.

No I argue that the rationale for the wall is securing the border not Nazi white racism run wild like you are arguing. I never said it actually would.

Once again since you still haven’t answered the question, do you think that we should secure our border?


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/access...praises-donald-trump-lifetime-service-blacks/

Jesse Jackson Praises Donald Trump for ‘Lifetime of Service’ to Blacks

Weird

 

[Jhhnn]

No I argue that the rationale for the wall is securing the border not Nazi white racism run wild like you are arguing.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/access...praises-donald-trump-lifetime-service-blacks/

Jesse Jackson Praises Donald Trump for ‘Lifetime of Service’ to Blacks

Weird

Gawd. Things change in 20 years, don't they? That clip is from 1998.

 

[fskimospy]

No I argue that the rationale for the wall is securing the border not Nazi white racism run wild like you are arguing.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/access...praises-donald-trump-lifetime-service-blacks/

Jesse Jackson Praises Donald Trump for ‘Lifetime of Service’ to Blacks

Weird

I didn’t say anything about Nazism, just Trump’s well established, lifelong racism. If we really need to go back into how he was repeatedly sued by the feds for refusing to rent to black tenants, how he said he doesn’t want black people doing his accounting because they are lazy, the Central Park five, etc, etc, we can do that.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Gawd. Things change in 20 years, don't they? That clip is from 1998.

Response to him saying

his racism has been one of the few things he has been entirely consistent on for his entire life.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I didn’t say anything about Nazism, just Trump’s well established, lifelong racism. If we really need to go back into how he was repeatedly sued by the feds for refusing to rent to black tenants, how he said he doesn’t want black people doing his accounting because they are lazy, the Central Park five, etc, etc, we can do that.

Do you think we should secure our borders?

 

[fskimospy]

Forbes is a right wing think tank?

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trumps-deregulation-binge/

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...key-to-business-expansion-and-economic-growth

No, the person who wrote the editorial is from a right wing think tank. Didn’t you bother to check the author??

Also I don’t know why you think linking more editorials is useful.

I work in a very heavily regulated industry. When Dodd Frank came out the cost of compliance grew significantly. This shut down many smaller lenders and caused small banks to exit the market or consolidate. The result of which is the size of banks are growing again (to big to fail anyone?) and very little of this helps the consumer. I’m not saying no regulation because it’s very much needed, but it needs to be smart regulation which we don’t have now. And there needs to be damned clear guidance from the regulators which we certainly don’t have.

Yes regulation is a tax on the economy.

None of this shows any action taken by Trump that would make him responsible for 2017’s growth. For the fourth of fifth time do you have any empirical evidence for this? No blogs or editorials from ultra right wing think tanks please.

 

[fskimospy]

Do you think we should secure our borders?

Irrelevant to the topic under discussion.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Irrelevant to the topic under discussion.

It’s not though. Border security was listed (the wall as ineffective as it may be) as something that’s terrible towards minorities.

Do you think we should secure our borders?

Super simple question.

 

[IronWing]

Do you think we should secure our borders?

Nope. The cost is too high for the benefit gained.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Nope. The cost is too high for the benefit gained.

Thank you. So open borders then?

fskimo do you agree?

 

[Jhhnn]

Irrelevant to the topic under discussion.

Well, yeh, but he's tripling down anyway.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's like the Trump admin isn't even trying. Yeh, sure, the GOP is ~89% White but the new batch of interns is obviously much whiter than that.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Promoting attempts to undermine public education and health care in ways that punish minorities. An FCC that scraps affordable broadband programs.

Ok we’ve established that we need open borders.

Next on the list. Betsy Davos is a complete mess. Not sure if that means racism though, if there is any fill me in.

What has Trump done racist regarding healthcare? I work with plenty of POC and their insurance has gotten progressively worse year after year for the past four years or so. The ACA hasn’t helped them one bit, it just makes the insurance we get via our employer worse. So how is Trump racist in this regard.

 

[UglyCasanova]

It's like the Trump admin isn't even trying. Yeh, sure, the GOP is ~89% White but the new batch of interns is obviously much whiter than that.

Do you think he’s turning down all of the black applicants?

 

[Jhhnn]

Do you think he’s turning down all of the black applicants?

I have no idea. I just know that a person could go snow blind looking at that picture for any length of time.

I see two black faces in the pic of ~90 people. I rather suspect that more than two black people applied, don't you? Being a White House intern is a plum job for all up & coming hard charging high achievers, isn't it?

Like I said, they're not even trying to put up a facade.

 

[Thebobo]

I work in a very heavily regulated industry. When Dodd Frank came out the cost of compliance grew significantly. This shut down many smaller lenders and caused small banks to exit the market or consolidate. The result of which is the size of banks are growing again (to big to fail anyone?) and very little of this helps the consumer. I’m not saying no regulation because it’s very much needed, but it needs to be smart regulation which we don’t have now. And there needs to be damned clear guidance from the regulators which we certainly don’t have.

Yes regulation is a tax on the economy.

smart regulation?

 

[fskimospy]

It’s not though. Border security was listed (the wall as ineffective as it may be) as something that’s terrible towards minorities.

Do you think we should secure our borders?

Super simple question.

False. The wall was listed, not border security. You’ve tried to redefine the question and it won’t work.

 

[fskimospy]

smart regulation?

He has fallen conspicuously silent on anything Trump has actually done that would result in the economic growth he credits to him.

Also his statement about regulation is ridiculous. All regulations have costs but good ones have benefits too. A good example is one of the areas Trump has been most active in trying to deregulate: environmental regulations. These regulations often have benefits of ten times their costs or more, so repealing them is a tax on the economy.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I have no idea. I just know that a person could go snow blind looking at that picture for any length of time.

I see two black faces in the pic of ~90 people. I rather suspect that more than two black people applied, don't you? Being a White House intern is a plum job for all up & coming hard charging high achievers, isn't it?

Like I said, they're not even trying to put up a facade.

I suspect more than 88 white people applied too.

 

[UglyCasanova]

False. The wall was listed, not border security. You’ve tried to redefine the question and it won’t work.

The wall was on the list as it is a method of border security. The question is relevant you just don’t want to answer it for some reason.

Do you think we should secure our borders?


That was what Commodus listed and that is what Trump is after. Relevant question, feel free to answer.

 

[UglyCasanova]

He has fallen conspicuously silent on anything Trump has actually done that would result in the economic growth he credits to him.

Also his statement about regulation is ridiculous. All regulations have costs but good ones have benefits too. A good example is one of the areas Trump has been most active in trying to deregulate: environmental regulations. These regulations often have benefits of ten times their costs or more, so repealing them is a tax on the economy.

Here ya go champ

https://www.brookings.edu/interactives/tracking-deregulation-in-the-trump-era/