The Unofficial Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R P35 Board Thread

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
im convinced that Coretemp is incorrect, my temps idle now With CoreTemp is 40-40-38-35
and 58-58-56-54 on full load with Prime at a Vcore of 1.056 and its prime stable, but im going to buy the Arctic Freezer on monday, as for Case setup, its a full sized case 2x80mm fans blowing in from bottom front and 1x92 blowing out from rear middle of case and 1x92mm blowing out at rear top of case, all cables tidy and neat, all dust was cleaned out prior to install.

The cpu compound was the stuff that came on the heatsink, ill be adding AS5 to my order and ive read about how to apply it correctly for quad cores, a thin line down the centre, and im living in Manchester mate just a little down from you old fruit and temp in my room is 20 degree's so quite cool. ill let you know how i get on when my cooler arrives.

Have you read the other Q6600 temp on this forums? Your temps seem to be in line with that cooler. I was in the same boat as you with decideing between an Arctic Freezer or a Tuniq Tower (money). Ditch the Artic and get the Tuniq. Yes, is $15-20 more but you will be much more happier. You will have the piece of mind that you have one of the best coolers out there for your Quad. You will also have solid component for your next system build.

I like your sig also. That's the way I had mine until i changed it last week so it was easier to read. However, I like your format better because is more slimline.

 

[5t3v0]

Good advice MrFB although for us Brits, the prices are probably double what you guys are paying (and no, we dont earn twice as much). I would have to concur though. While the Freezer is fine for dual core CPUs, when you've got 4 cores under the bonnet (US=hood) you probably should invest a bit more. After all, why spend £200 on a quad CPU only to scrimp on the heatsink. Its like buying an expensive car and not paying the extra for climate control (cr@p analogy, sorry).

 

[mrfatboy]

how much is the tuniq in the UK? I got mine for $45 last month.

 

[5t3v0]

£37.59 at OCUK. Thats nearly $76! Not quite double but you see the problem. The Freezer is half that.

 

[SniperDaws]

ill get the Tuniq then i think, i just felt like the only Quad core user with the hottest temps

Thanks again gents

 

[5t3v0]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
ill get the Tuniq then i think, i just felt like the only Quad core user with the hottest temps

Thanks again gents

The Scythe Infinity is a top-end HSF and is £9 cheaper than the Tuniq here at Scan.

 

[mrfatboy]

Get the tuniq and report back with the temps. Good luck!

 

[SniperDaws]

ok ive sussed the reason why im getting rubbish temps, i attempted to reseat the stock cooler and OMG i couldnt get the thing back on with the motherboard still in the case, so i took it out and did it, i was about to put the motherboard back in when i noticed somthing, the motherboard is bent quite a lot because of the heatsink, anyway ive read that if im getting a new heatsink to make sure i get one with a back plate like the Zalmans or Thermalrights because this is whats causing a lot of high temps.

like this one http://www.thermalright.com/a_images/pic/ifx-14.jpg

http://www.thermalright.com/a_...tion_ifx14.htm#install

lmao i bet it costs more than water cooling.


Also the Scythe cooler uses the same push pin setup as the intel as used by this guy here

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444432

 

[mrfatboy]

the tuniq has an awesome backplate. once that baby is in it stays in. I had to mount the tuniq first to the mobo then put everything in. Not that you should do it but you can pick the whole (tuniq & mobo) by the tuniq. It's very solid.

I didn't buy the TR120 becuase it was more expensive and you had to buy a fan for it. It only bought 1 more degree of coolness.

 

[5t3v0]

Sniper mate, that proc is encased in 1 sq inch of metal so it wont bend and screwing the board down to the chassis will straighten out any bends the mobo. I think the issue is that the stock cooler is designed to do a job and no more. Intel are hardly likely to ship a cooler that encourages punters to push the chips beyond their warrantied specs. The majority of people are using the 4 push-pin coolers and dont have any probs.

My philosophy on buying stuff is governed by the law of diminishing returns, i.e. will spending 50% more give me 50% better cooling. From a Freezer to a Tuniq I would be surprised if it was more than 5%. However if you have the cash & want the best, definitely buy the Tuniq. They are the mutts.

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: 5t3v0
Sniper mate, that proc is encased in 1 sq inch of metal so it wont bend and screwing the board down to the chassis will straighten out any bends the mobo. I think the issue is that the stock cooler is designed to do a job and no more. Intel are hardly likely to ship a cooler that encourages punters to push the chips beyond their warrantied specs. The majority of people are using the 4 push-pin coolers and dont have any probs.

My philosophy on buying stuff is governed by the law of diminishing returns, i.e. will spending 50% more give me 50% better cooling. From a Freezer to a Tuniq I would be surprised if it was more than 5%. However if you have the cash & want the best, definitely buy the Tuniq. They are the mutts.

what are your temps on your 6750? What is your room/ambient temp? Currently I'm at

Core 0 32C
Core 1 35C
Ambient 25C

All my fans are on low. My tuniq is at 1600 RPM (silient)

My friend with the same system are:

Core 0 28C
Core 1 28C
Ambient 21C

 

[5t3v0]

Tcase 25C
Core 0 21C
Core 1 21C
Ambient 18C (yeah cold I know)
Fan 530 rpm

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: 5t3v0
Tcase 25C
Core 0 21C
Core 1 21C
Ambient 18C (yeah cold I know)
Fan 530 rpm

Whoaa! wait a minute. what are you using to measure you temps? what version? I'm thinking you need to add 15C to those temps which would make it about right. Otherwise, your arctic cooler is better than the tuniq. which we know is not true


Unless it's the 7C ambient difference that really is making the difference. However, it you take that into account the tuniq and AC freezer 7 pro would be cooling the same. hmmmm, something is not right

 

[5t3v0]

Why is it so hard to believe? I think you have been consumed by the marketing hype my friend . I am using speedfan 4.32 and coretemp 0.95.4. Both give the same core reading which is right for the 6750 which has a tjunction of 85C. I can post pics for the doubtful. I had a Freezer 64 pro before this cooler & can assure you that the brand is excellent. I do have 2x80mm SilenX 1900rpm 28cfm fans blowing in from the side & 1x80mm of the same blowing out of the back of the case.

Now that the room has warmed up a bit, the cores are reading 22-23C on speedfan & coretemp but with Intel TAT, they are fluctuating from 25 to 30C. This is why I dont trust these monitoring aps too much.

The max core temp I've seen on any app is 56C.

 

[mrfatboy]

You have the best temps I have ever seen on this forum or Overclockers. Some of the guys have water and don't get your temps. It's not that I think your lying but damn you are significantly lower then everybody. Plus you only have an AC 7 Pro.

btw, i have speedfan 4.33 beta 18. But our Coretemp is the same. It was 100F here today. My office 90F now. AC is turned back on. I was in the pool all day

I guess the ambients are really playing a big part here or I'm really jealous or both

btw, the tjunction is 6750 is 100C


check this out

tjunction info

 

[5t3v0]

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
btw, the tjunction is 6750 is 100C

Well that would explain it! Core temp still shows 85C for me which I guess means I need to add 15 to my temps. Not so impressive after that . Still well within the tolerances though (said in half-life scientist voice). I thought these later versions of speedfan & coretemp reported the correct tjunction for the G0 & I had assumed only the quads were 100C. The 4.33 18 beta reports the same. True enough, it didn't seem right that my core temps were lower than my tcase.

At least you Tuniq users will now sleep better at night

I tell you what though, I'd much rather be having your climate just now. Our summer came to nothing & now its over!

Cheers

 

[SniperDaws]

lmao you watch Summers not over yet matey, we still have Sunny September and October to go yet......lol British weather is up its own arse.

ive got some AS5 coming tomorrow and a new Northbridge cooler, i saw the NB cooler on Ebay and though sod it for £2.00 i might as well get it, its a Blue Zalman thing, i dont think i need it but for that price i thought sod it.

The only place i can seem to get the Tuniq Tower is at www.yoyotech.com and its £40 including Delivery.

Theres one on Ebay and the bids are only at £22 but the guy's lapped it to a 1200 grain finish Here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tuniq-To...VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: 5t3v0

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
btw, the tjunction is 6750 is 100C

Well that would explain it! Core temp still shows 85C for me which I guess means I need to add 15 to my temps. Not so impressive after that . Still well within the tolerances though (said in half-life scientist voice). I thought these later versions of speedfan & coretemp reported the correct tjunction for the G0 & I had assumed only the quads were 100C. The 4.33 18 beta reports the same. True enough, it didn't seem right that my core temps were lower than my tcase.

At least you Tuniq users will now sleep better at night

I tell you what though, I'd much rather be having your climate just now. Our summer came to nothing & now its over!

Cheers

Ok, i was not crazy. You almost had me there However, I have coretemp 95.4 and it reports the tjunction as 100C. Why is your coretemp 95.4 reporting 85C?

Also, then going back to my orignal statement, while taking ambients into effect, it looks like the Tuniq cools about 7C - 8C more. It's worth the Tuniq if you are OC'ing. Of course that is a unscientific guess based on our info. The best kind

As soon as Sniper gets his new cooler we can check again. Let the cooler wars begin

 

[SniperDaws]

its going to be a week or so before i can get it

But will this fit with a Tuniq tower together on our motherboards?


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/...01&catid=57&subcat=399

ive already got it coming, its no biggy if it doesnt, ill slap it on my other pc.

 

[5t3v0]

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
Why is your coretemp 95.4 reporting 85C?

Cause I'm a f@nny & downloaded 0.95 again instead! I've been hungover all day so you'll need to make allowances. :beer: The beta version does indeed report tjunction max as 100C and the cores as 38C.

I have no doubts Sniper's Tuniq will resoundingly whip my Freezer's cold copper ar5e. I'd say the improvement is nearer 10C with the Tuniq. Your highest core at 25C ambient is 35C. If you take 7C off that (the difference between my ambient temp & yours), the core would be 28C theoretically. I'm sure it's not as simple as that but hey. If it were right, the Tuniq would over 25% more efficient which certainly helps justify its price tag. Still, the Freezer is doing a good enough job (helped by our cold climate) at nearly a 3rd of the price so I'm happy enough with that.

 

[sztorok]

Is ICH9R supported in linux?
I just installed Ubuntu and i see the mirror (I wonder if it's really the functioning mirror or just one of the drives?).
I can't see the stripe volume though... In xp x32 & x64 everything works fine.

One of the drives is non-raid system disk w/ lots of partitions for different OSs and the other two are configured
for both raid 0 & 1.
--
GA-P35C-DS3R, Q6600 w/ CNPS8700LED, PDC24G6400ELK, XFX 8600GT XXX, 3x WD5000YS, 3+1 IEEE1394 PCI,
Silverstone DA750, CoolerMaster 732, SM215TW, Wacom Intuos3, Spyder2 Pro, XP x32, XP x64, Ubuntu 7.04 x64.

 

[5t3v0]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws
its going to be a week or so before i can get it

But will this fit with a Tuniq tower together on our motherboards?


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/...01&catid=57&subcat=399

I had one of these a couple of years ago & it was quite tall as I remember. The NB is quite close to the cpu socket on our board so you might be unlucky.

Edit. Here's the dimensions. It's 47mm high so unless the Tuniq has a lot of clearance, probably not.

Edit2: Here's the Tuniq clearance. It's 55mm so you might actually be lucky depending on the height of the chip.

What was wrong with the HSF that came with the board? I reapplied mine with AS5 & it's fine.

 

[SniperDaws]

When i got the board home the heatsink was hanging off and one of the pins was snapped, i didnt have time to go back to scan, anyway i took the pin off a spare Socket A mobo ( i knew there was a reason i keep my old stuff) the square sponge came off when i was cleaning it with Arctic cleaner, although the contact is verygood the heatsink moves if you touch it either side of the pins ( imagine looking down on a seesaw....lol), when i take out the mobo again ill get some of that Door foam and make a square round the chipset it should be fine then.


So what are your temps now underload using CoreTemp ?

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: sztorok
Is ICH9R supported in linux?
I just installed Ubuntu and i see the mirror (I wonder if it's really the functioning mirror or just one of the drives?).
I can't see the stripe volume though... In xp x32 & x64 everything works fine.

One of the drives is non-raid system disk w/ lots of partitions for different OSs and the other two are configured
for both raid 0 & 1.
--
GA-P35C-DS3R, Q6600 w/ CNPS8700LED, PDC24G6400ELK, XFX 8600GT XXX, 3x WD5000YS, 3+1 IEEE1394 PCI,
Silverstone DA750, CoolerMaster 732, SM215TW, Wacom Intuos3, Spyder2 Pro, XP x32, XP x64, Ubuntu 7.04 x64.

Ive never used Linux im sorry mate.

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: 5t3v0

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
Why is your coretemp 95.4 reporting 85C?

Cause I'm a f@nny & downloaded 0.95 again instead! I've been hungover all day so you'll need to make allowances. :beer: The beta version does indeed report tjunction max as 100C and the cores as 38C.

I have no doubts Sniper's Tuniq will resoundingly whip my Freezer's cold copper ar5e. I'd say the improvement is nearer 10C with the Tuniq. Your highest core at 25C ambient is 35C. If you take 7C off that (the difference between my ambient temp & yours), the core would be 28C theoretically. I'm sure it's not as simple as that but hey. If it were right, the Tuniq would over 25% more efficient which certainly helps justify its price tag. Still, the Freezer is doing a good enough job (helped by our cold climate) at nearly a 3rd of the price so I'm happy enough with that.

And remember my friends core temps with his ambient. You are even cooler than that. If you got a Tuniq you would probably be right back down where you thought you were originally at

Core 0 28C
Core 1 28C
Ambient 21C