Rant The unfortunately necessary RFK Jr. thread

[Homerboy]

How about split the difference. Advertising is allowed (large scale ads) once there is a generic equivalent and before that in limited professional papers or sources is fine.

come on man, where's the money in that!?!

 

[Homerboy]

Avian flu, perhaps…?

Last week, the United States reported its first severe case of the virus, in a Louisiana resident above the age of 65, who was suffering from severe respiratory illness.

Bird flu virus shows mutations in first severe human infection in US, CDC says

Mutations are rare but have been reported in some cases in other countries and most often in extreme infections

www.theguardian.com

my wife has been following this for the last year+ it's been a slow build, and I hate to admit it, but she might be right about this become "the next big thing"
if so, it could make COVID look like the sniffles.

 

[Pens1566]

my wife has been following this for the last year+ it's been a slow build, and I hate to admit it, but she might be right about this become "the next big thing"
if so, it could make COVID look like the sniffles.

I was talking to some ID folks (casually) last week about this. They're a little spooked. And that was before this info about the latest mutations.

 

[Homerboy]

I was talking to some ID folks (casually) last week about this. They're a little spooked. And that was before this info about the latest mutations.

yeah - that pretty much seems to be the concensus. It's not "if", it's "when" and more importantly "to what extent".
magic 8 ball says "outlook grim"

 

[Pens1566]

yeah - that pretty much seems to be the concensus. It's not "if", it's "when" and more importantly "to what extent".
magic 8 ball says "outlook grim"

They were in the "probably less transmissible, but much more dangerous" camp.

 

[pmv]

They have to double up on other commercials to make up for the loss. As it is now you might get 15 minutes of actual content in a 30 min show.

Most other countries' advertising industries manage perfectly well without pharmacutical advertising.

It's a staple of any British columnist who spends time in the US, to write a piece about how weird it is to be deluged with adverts for prescription drugs. It's not the norm in most of the world.

Really, given the staggering sums spent on political advertising in the US (and the seemingly-endless presidential campaigns) I'm surprised any other form of advertising is required to keep the media/ad industry in cocaine money.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Well, yeah, but personally, in that respect, I wish I'd been born a couple of centuries later. Or in the Star Trek timeline. Heck, I'd have had a lot better time of it if I'd even been born a couple of decades later. Modern medicine isn't modern enough for me.

-Some thing tells me that in a couple centuries we'll be in the Mad Max timeline, not the Trek one...

my wife has been following this for the last year+ it's been a slow build, and I hate to admit it, but she might be right about this become "the next big thing"
if so, it could make COVID look like the sniffles.

- Time to let God do some weeding, and as the evangelicals will tell you, his agent has just been installed in the highest office.

Wouldn't mind another pandemic, but give us a solid, unquestionable 5-10% mortality rate (skewed heavily by the oldies please). God is calling the boomers back home...

 

[Homerboy]

They were in the "probably less transmissible, but much more dangerous" camp.

yes - that seems to be what my wife and her "research" has been saying as well. Though even if it's marginally as transmissible, the effects/potential outcomes are much worse.

 

[iRONic]

-Some thing tells me that in a couple centuries we'll be in the Mad Max timeline, not the Trek one...


- Time to let God do some weeding, and as the evangelicals will tell you, his agent has just been installed in the highest office.

Wouldn't mind another pandemic, but give us a solid, unquestionable 5-10% mortality rate (skewed heavily by the oldies please). God is calling the boomers back home...

So the atheist says that the spaghetti monster should do some weeding…

I'm a 65 year old ‘oldie’ with a shitty comorbidity called MS. Covid vax and voluntarily isolating has kept me alive. Fingers crossed they'll come up with something for this also.

So, FOAD.

 

[Brainonska511]

For all the complaints about pharma advertising, I'd much rather see advertising for snake oil (eg, all those supplements and other bs) have to live up to the standards required of pharma advertising. Those products would disappear overnight.

 

[hal2kilo]

For all the complaints about pharma advertising, I'd much rather see advertising for snake oil (eg, all those supplements and other bs) have to live up to the standards required of pharma advertising. Those products would disappear overnight.

The herbalist destroyed FDA's power.

 

[Brainonska511]

The herbalist destroyed FDA's power.

Yes, Orin Hatch and the DSHEA law he helped to shepherd in 1994 have made sure the FDA can only step in reactively in this space.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

So the atheist says that the spaghetti monster should do some weeding…

I'm a 65 year old ‘oldie’ with a shitty comorbidity called MS. Covid vax and voluntarily isolating has kept me alive. Fingers crossed they'll come up with something for this also.

So, FOAD.

*Pushes glasses up nose*

God is an Atheist was a tongue in cheek joke back from my HS days suggesting God has low self esteem (hence the need to be worshiped) not that I am personally an Atheist.

*Famous last words here* Also, as a 40yo with no comorbidities I believe it will be you who does the F.O.D.-ing

 

[iRONic]

*Famous last words here* Also, as a 40yo with no comorbidities I believe it will be you who does the F.O.D.-ing

Shitlol

 

[Paratus]

-Some thing tells me that in a couple centuries we'll be in the Mad Max timeline, not the Trek one...


- Time to let God do some weeding, and as the evangelicals will tell you, his agent has just been installed in the highest office.

Wouldn't mind another pandemic, but give us a solid, unquestionable 5-10% mortality rate (skewed heavily by the oldies please). God is calling the boomers back home...

To be fair Trek had its own post WWIII Mad Max era before becoming the Trek of the TV series.

 

[Amused]

What, he lied? No way.
“To earn the vote he needed to become the nation’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a special promise to a U.S. senator: He would not change the nation’s current vaccination schedule.
But on Tuesday, speaking for the first time to thousands of U.S. Health and Human Services agency employees, he vowed to investigate the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases.”

Kennedy says panel will examine childhood vaccine schedule after promising not to change it

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told agency employees that a commission formed by President Donald Trump will investigate the childhood vaccine schedule.

apnews.com

 

[Brainonska511]

What, he lied? No way.
“To earn the vote he needed to become the nation’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a special promise to a U.S. senator: He would not change the nation’s current vaccination schedule.
But on Tuesday, speaking for the first time to thousands of U.S. Health and Human Services agency employees, he vowed to investigate the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases.”

Kennedy says panel will examine childhood vaccine schedule after promising not to change it

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told agency employees that a commission formed by President Donald Trump will investigate the childhood vaccine schedule.

apnews.com

Who could possibly have seen this coming? /s

I hope the Louisiana senator enjoys watching his medical legacy be completely wiped out by his craven votes.

 

[feralkid]

-Some thing tells me that in a couple centuries we'll be in the Mad Max timeline, not the Trek one...


- Time to let God do some weeding, and as the evangelicals will tell you, his agent has just been installed in the highest office.

Wouldn't mind another pandemic, but give us a solid, unquestionable 5-10% mortality rate (skewed heavily by the oldies please). God is calling the boomers back home...

Wishing death among the aged is not really a good look, but carry on, oh Dim Reaper.

 

[Pens1566]

What, he lied? No way.
“To earn the vote he needed to become the nation’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a special promise to a U.S. senator: He would not change the nation’s current vaccination schedule.
But on Tuesday, speaking for the first time to thousands of U.S. Health and Human Services agency employees, he vowed to investigate the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases.”

Kennedy says panel will examine childhood vaccine schedule after promising not to change it

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told agency employees that a commission formed by President Donald Trump will investigate the childhood vaccine schedule.

apnews.com

Until someone gets nailed for perjury in one of these hearings (SCOTUS noms, I'm looking at you), this shit will continue.

There is entirely too little "finding out" for a whole lot of "fucking around".

 

[Brainonska511]

Until someone gets nailed for perjury in one of these hearings (SCOTUS noms, I'm looking at you), this shit will continue.

There is entirely too little "finding out" for a whole lot of "fucking around".

The threshold for Congress doing anything about it (ie, impeachment, conviction, removal) has a bar set so high by both the Constitution and by "norms" as to be functionally useless. And I doubt the executive is going to get on board with prosecuting one of their own appointments.

There needs to be some fundamental changes in the government, and there needs to be some fundamental changes in how we talk about government and public service.

Having obligations to society, some sense of civic duty, voluntary public service - these are all good things. Instead, people have developed an ethos that just mocks these things.

 

[fskimospy]

The threshold for Congress doing anything about it (ie, impeachment, conviction, removal) has a bar set so high by both the Constitution and by "norms" as to be functionally useless. And I doubt the executive is going to get on board with prosecuting one of their own appointments.

There needs to be some fundamental changes in the government, and there needs to be some fundamental changes in how we talk about government and public service.

Having obligations to society, some sense of civic duty, voluntary public service - these are all good things. Instead, people have developed an ethos that just mocks these things.

Yes, the fact that Congress relies on the executive branch to enforce its contempt rulings has a pretty obvious flaw.

 

[Brainonska511]

Yes, the fact that Congress relies on the executive branch to enforce its contempt rulings has a pretty obvious flaw.

Executive branch will basically laugh at Congress and put the writ of contempt on the fridge, like a parent who displays their child's art.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Wishing death among the aged is not really a good look, but carry on, oh Dim Reaper.

-If anyone here cared what anyone else thought, we wouldn't be on the internet sharing our thoughts

The Internet is the mind's toilet. Flush it down.

 

[hal2kilo]

What, he lied? No way.
“To earn the vote he needed to become the nation’s top health official, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a special promise to a U.S. senator: He would not change the nation’s current vaccination schedule.
But on Tuesday, speaking for the first time to thousands of U.S. Health and Human Services agency employees, he vowed to investigate the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases.”

Kennedy says panel will examine childhood vaccine schedule after promising not to change it

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told agency employees that a commission formed by President Donald Trump will investigate the childhood vaccine schedule.

apnews.com

See lying works. Dems need to observe.

 

[Fenixgoon]

See lying works. Dems need to observe.

For anyone took him as being honest, I have a bridge to sell them...