The Ultimate Is Coming(Nvidia)

[SPBHM]

I'm not very impressed by the direction Nvidia went with Shield, it's just a regular tablet with an external controller, hardly a new idea or ideal...

the original was a better idea as a gaming device, if only the screen was slightly bigger and detachable!?

but if it's a gaming focused device perhaps copying the Wii U would be the way to go!?

 

[sxr7171]

I'm not very impressed by the direction Nvidia went with Shield, it's just a regular tablet with an external controller, hardly a new idea or ideal...

the original was a better idea as a gaming device, if only the screen was slightly bigger and detachable!?

but if it's a gaming focused device perhaps copying the Wii U would be the way to go!?

The original is far better. It served a niche. This is just very daft. The increase in screen size will be more than negated by the extra distance from one's eyes that it sits. In that picture with the tablet on the table it looks horribly uncomfortable to use.

And no not the WiiU. That is the most uncomfortable gaming controller in the world. That too was the worst idea Nintendo came up with. It isn't really necessary for any game, it dies in 3 hours maximum, it lacks the range to use it in a bedroom in a small apartment when the main unit is in the living room. It's the most worthless thing in gaming right now. Even Kinect is better.

 

[ams23]

Even if K1 was 100x more powerful than 780Ti, Shield had 4K screen, and you could stream every single 3rd person shooter at 4K with 0 lag, there are 3 aspects that can't be overcome - controls, screen size and usability.

Shield tablet is not a dedicated game console, it is just a really good tablet with stylus and with an optional gaming accessory and a mini HDMI output so that it can be hooked up to the big screen TV if desired.

You are going to buy a $40 stand or use a book to hold the tablet on the table?

The $39 accessory is a smart cover and multi-position stand for the tablet. Most people who buy a tablet (iPad included) will want a smart cover for obvious reasons which have nothing to do with gaming!

For about 2 hours you salivate that you have the worlds most powerful gaming tablet and then you realize the screens on the Samsung and iPads blow it away in real estate size and resolution.

Again, have some perspective. This is not a dedicated gaming tablet. This is a really fast Full HD 8" Android tablet with stylus that sells for $299. Obviously one can always spend more to get a larger tablet and/or even higher res screen, but so what? A higher res screen is not always a good thing, because platform power consumption is higher (all else equal) and graphics fluidity at native resolution is worse (all else equal). And not everyone wants a 10" tablet. Most consumers appear to be content with a 7" or 8" tablet.

Take a step back and think about things. For $299 I can get a high res Full HD pure Android tablet with 8" screen, an integrated magnesium thermal shield for superior heat dissipation, a stylus, a microSD card slot (up to 128GB expandable storage), front-firing stereo speakers, and one of the fastest ultra mobile SoC's on the planet in Tegra K1 (with 2x better CPU performance and 3x better graphics performance than the Nexus 7 2013!). All the gaming features aside (which are entirely optional in the first place), this is a very fair price for a tablet with these features and specifications.

 

[Keysplayr]

Was the PSP horribly uncomfortable to use? Honestly it isnt much different in external design. I wish folks would stop exaggerating so much.

 

[The Alias]

Was the PSP horribly uncomfortable to use? Honestly it isnt much different in external design. I wish folks would stop exaggerating so much.

ooohhhh my guy, you have no idea. I couldn't even play need for speed on it.

 

[ams23]

The original is far better. It served a niche.

Shield tablet and Shield portable are two entirely different concepts. Shield tablet is more of a replacement to the Tegra Note 7 tablet, while being improved in virtually every way (higher screen res, larger screen, much higher performance SoC, second gen stylus, better build quality, etc).

As far as I can tell based on the Shield tablet previews, the Shield portable will be updated later this year with Tegra K1 and other enhancements.

 

[Canbacon]

As far as I can tell based on the Shield tablet previews, the Shield portable will be updated later this year with Tegra K1 and other enhancements.

Oh man, if that is true, that is good news and something to wait for. I tried out the shield portable to be very good for what it is, however, I didn't go for it because of the dated internals. Having the K1 would be very good.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Oh man, if that is true, that is good news and something to wait for. I tried out the shield portable to be very good for what it is, however, I didn't go for it because of the dated internals. Having the K1 would be very good.

And later next year it will be updated again.

Like I said in an earlier post. Mobile chips are moving at far to fast a rate to bother buying anything high end.

 

[Mand]

Wow! The newest hip game has amazing graphics! I can't wait to use my high-end gaming PC to run it so I can sit hunched over a tiny tablet screen!

 

[ams23]

LOL, you have a point there, because streaming a controller-friendly PC game to a tablet is not really ideal in part because the controller is usually not fixed to the screen, and in part because the screen is relatively small to begin with. The better thing to do for those who really wanted to use Shield tablet game streaming would be to hook up the tablet to the big screen TV (via mini HDMI out) and then use a wireless controller to play.

 

[RussianSensation]

I would love controller that let's me stream my PC games from my desktop PC to my plasma TV. This way, my computer is on another floor of my house while if I want to play a 3rd person or racing game, I can do it on a large screen on the couch. If NV made this happen, I would pay $150-200 for such a controller 🙂

 

[Mand]

I would love controller that let's me stream my PC games from my desktop PC to my plasma TV. This way, my computer is on another floor of my house while if I want to play a 3rd person or racing game, I can do it on a large screen on the couch. If NV made this happen, I would pay $150-200 for such a controller 🙂

I got a wireless HDMI transmitter that lets me do that, but the latency makes it useless for gaming. Good for streams, though.

 

[ams23]

In the future, there will be smart TV's (with an SoC such as TK1 inside) so that PC game streaming can happen directly from the main PC to the big screen TV (or so that GRID streaming can happen directly from the GRID server to the big screen TV).

 

[sxr7171]

Shield tablet and Shield portable are two entirely different concepts. Shield tablet is more of a replacement to the Tegra Note 7 tablet, while being improved in virtually every way (higher screen res, larger screen, much higher performance SoC, second gen stylus, better build quality, etc).

As far as I can tell based on the Shield tablet previews, the Shield portable will be updated later this year with Tegra K1 and other enhancements.

Oh ok. That's good. So this is tablet that happens to also have game streaming built-in. Then otherwise it's a standard Android tablet? Do you know if it can access the Google Play store and all that?

 

[toyota]

Oh ok. That's good. So this is tablet that happens to also have game streaming built-in. Then otherwise it's a standard Android tablet? Do you know if it can access the Google Play store and all that?

of course. it does everything a normal android tablet and note device can do and then some.

 

[monstercameron]

I'm not very impressed by the direction Nvidia went with Shield, it's just a regular tablet with an external controller, hardly a new idea or ideal...

the original was a better idea as a gaming device, if only the screen was slightly bigger and detachable!?

but if it's a gaming focused device perhaps copying the Wii U would be the way to go!?

I concur, a mobile wii u would be awesome -even if it only runs android.

 

[tviceman]

I would love controller that let's me stream my PC games from my desktop PC to my plasma TV. This way, my computer is on another floor of my house while if I want to play a 3rd person or racing game, I can do it on a large screen on the couch. If NV made this happen, I would pay $150-200 for such a controller 🙂

This would be pretty sweet. Nvidia could throw a TK1 in a controller, and make a simple GUI /connection interface with Geforce experience (or something like that) when the user wants to stream from PC to TV, otherwise the controller will just throw Android up on the TV screen. No screen, smaller battery, smaller price. Sign me up too!

Wow Russian this is a great idea. Lets Kickstart it!

 

[Madpacket]

This shield tablet will fail pretty fast. Nvidia isn't marketing it correctly. They should have named it something new, something other than "Shield" as it confuses this as primarily a gaming device instead of a tablet. The Shield brand wasn't very strong to begin with so it's silly of them to latch on the name. Now they're screwed because even though it's a decent tablet it'll be written off by the masses who'll consider this some sort of gaming tablet.

For shame Nvidia 🙁

That being said I'll probably pick one up when it inevitability hits 200 dollars in 6 months due to massive overstock. Hopefully they’ll be smart enough to throw in the controller when blowing them out.

 

[wand3r3r]

Purely as a tablet, good luck trying to get into the market. There's nothing to differentiate it in tablet mode, purely as a tablet.

As a gaming tablet, which is the only way it has anything different, is a little more interesting. I don't see myself switching from any other tablet, there's nothing compelling about it but if the games start appearing and progress a generation or two forward, it may be more interesting.

Another thing is that there are new tablets just coming out which it will be compared to. They claim 2-4x the graphics power, but that's compared to e.g. the ipad air which is being refreshed this quarter (and has been progressing rapidly too). 2-4x gpu power is actually pretty mild imo since it's supposedly using the kepler architecture. I would have thought it would be 10x or 100x faster, I guess the tablet GPUs are more powerful than I thought.

Until devs hop on board it will fail (I find it hard to see them making "nice" games for this tablet alone).