The Trump Tariffs thread

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DZero

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Markets totally ignoring tariffs, unemployment numbers, housing.

Probably peak FOMO ignorance right now.
Sorry to be ignorant, but seeing who is in charge, I am even fearing that money laundering won't be farfetched at all.
 

ch33zw1z

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Heck, so money laundering seems to be the reason why the markets are so "bullyish" despite the potential issue to come?

Im saying that money laundering isnt a problem for voters in GOP world, its not a disqualifying action.

Market manipulation in plain sight has been going on for months
 

DZero

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Im saying that money laundering isnt a problem for voters in GOP world, its not a disqualifying action.

Market manipulation in plain sight has been going on for months
The issue is the contamination of the stocks... heck, if there are too much laundering, that will lead into troubles. And of course Wall Street might not end well if this is real.

Along market manipulation is making the situation even worse. Wall Street is rushing to be reformed in a future.
 

ch33zw1z

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The issue is the contamination of the stocks... heck, if there are too much laundering, that will lead into troubles. And of course Wall Street might not end well if this is real.

Along market manipulation is making the situation even worse. Wall Street is rushing to be reformed in a future.

Contaminated how?
 

K1052

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Vietnam to pay 20% is a weird way to spell "Americans to pay 20% tariff on imports from Vietnam"

The screeching that foreign countries pay the tariffs as everything Americans buy keeps going up in price will reach glass shattering levels.
 
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VRAMdemon

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So ... Americans got hit with a new 20% sales tax. And that sales tax will be on top of the increased sales tax they already paid. So if something was a $100+tax of 9% it cost $109.00. Now it costs a $120+tax so it is now $130.80. So, it is really what 22-23% increase? Trump is taxing Americans 20-40% while Vietnam gets products for free? I haven't seen a trade deal this bad since the Minnesota Vikings gave Dallas three first round and three second round picks for Hershel Walker.

Trump wants his tariffs/taxes to help pay for his tax cuts for himself and his buds. Someone surely explained tariffs to him by now, but he'll continue to lie about it. He's a sociopath, he could care less if it hurts most Americans, and lying, that's his thing, he gets off on playing the suckers. "Art of the Dope".

Interesting tidbit - "Vietnam has approved a $1.5 billion proposal by the Trump Organization and its Vietnamese partner to build golf courses, hotels and real estate projects in the Southeast Asian country, state-run media reported Friday."
 
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So ... Americans got hit with a new 20% sales tax. And that sales tax will be on top of the increased sales tax they already paid. So if something was a $100+tax of 9% it cost $109.00. Now it costs a $120+tax so it is now $130.80. So, it is really what 22-23% increase? Trump is taxing Americans 20-40% while Vietnam gets products for free? I haven't seen a trade deal this bad since the Minnesota Vikings gave Dallas three first round and three second round picks for Hershel Walker.

Trump wants his tariffs/taxes to help pay for his tax cuts for himself and his buds. Someone surely explained tariffs to him by now, but he'll continue to lie about it. He's a sociopath, he could care less if it hurts most Americans, and lying, that's his thing, he gets off on playing the suckers. "Art of the Dope".

Interesting tidbit - "Vietnam has approved a $1.5 billion proposal by the Trump Organization and its Vietnamese partner to build golf courses, hotels and real estate projects in the Southeast Asian country, state-run media reported Friday."
It's not just taxing us - it's taxing us illegally by unilaterally declaring a fake emergency. It's complete bullshit.
 

QueBert

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Im saying that money laundering isnt a problem for voters in GOP world, its not a disqualifying action.

Market manipulation in plain sight has been going on for months

Most swear he's doing nothing bad, and it's all fake news. And the few that I've encountered who will actually admit he does some crooked shit? "Sleepy Joe did shit that was even worse for 4 years, so shut up and go cry about it."

It is impossible to get thru to any of them, the way they're able to deflect anything is truly remarkable lol.
 

Indus

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Most swear he's doing nothing bad, and it's all fake news. And the few that I've encountered who will actually admit he does some crooked shit? "Sleepy Joe did shit that was even worse for 4 years, so shut up and go cry about it."

It is impossible to get thru to any of them, the way they're able to deflect anything is truly remarkable lol.

Just add 80 mil or so to the deportation list. Not like it's a big deal or anything.. if anything we save the planet!
 

DaaQ

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Most swear he's doing nothing bad, and it's all fake news. And the few that I've encountered who will actually admit he does some crooked shit? "Sleepy Joe did shit that was even worse for 4 years, so shut up and go cry about it."

It is impossible to get thru to any of them, the way they're able to deflect anything is truly remarkable lol.
Just waiting for "the new middle class" IE 500k to 1 mil to go bankrupt to get the faFO part.
 

UNCjigga

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Do we have 90 deals in 90 days yet??

*Checks notes*. Seems like we have 1 deal, 1 framework for a deal, and one arbitrary decision to lower tariffs for Vietnam compared to what was originally announced (still much higher than under Biden).
 
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esquared

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Do we have 90 deals in 90 days yet??

*Checks notes*. Seems like we have 1 deal, 1 framework for a deal, and one arbitrary decision to lower tariffs for Vietnam compared to what was originally announced (still much higher than under Biden).
"Just a couple weeks", though.
 

K1052

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Do we have 90 deals in 90 days yet??

*Checks notes*. Seems like we have 1 deal, 1 framework for a deal, and one arbitrary decision to lower tariffs for Vietnam compared to what was originally announced (still much higher than under Biden).

The Vietnam "deal" isn't even papered so importers have no fucking idea what the current tariff is lol.

Anyway the market is clearly doing the TACO trade but I think we're actually gonna get Liberation Day 2.0
 

DZero

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The Vietnam "deal" isn't even papered so importers have no fucking idea what the current tariff is lol.

Anyway the market is clearly doing the TACO trade but I think we're actually gonna get Liberation Day 2.0
Makes me think... all depends on China. If China starts to counter now, this is gonna end into Liberation Day 2.0 even with TACO since Chinese are not chicken out.
 

DZero

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Even the ones who are on negotiations? Along BBB, seems that Trump is DESPERATE to steal money. Definately time to retalliation.
 

sdifox

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I had some expenses come up that were unexpected.. and decided to bite the bullet and buy now.

The only thing I haven't bought yet is a mini split air conditioner because I haven't mastered DIY to put up a 220v circuit myself.

well you probably want a subpanel outside near the minisplit

 
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