The story of my great uncle and the love of his life

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

SaberDicer

Banned
Nov 29, 2004
302
0
0
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Wow people suck.

I'm 15 and I don't get any of this power of attoney = insane robbing spree but this sucks, hope something turns out for your uncle.

Yea can someone explain how power of attorney = allowed to take everything belonging to a spouse. At most he should be able to take 50%, That definetly = theft.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
48,775
3
81
Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Wow people suck.

I'm 15 and I don't get any of this power of attoney = insane robbing spree but this sucks, hope something turns out for your uncle.

Yea can someone explain how power of attorney = allowed to take everything belonging to a spouse. At most he should be able to take 50%, That definetly = theft.

It allows them to take control of your legal rights by choice, or so it would seem.

 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
Power of attorney gives someone the ability to make financial decisions on your behalf. There's no law stating your spouse can't close joint accounts, withdraw large amounts of money, etc, so there's no law preventing his/her "representative" from doing so as well. Currently.
 

musicman64

Senior member
Jun 29, 2003
339
0
0
First off, I'm sorry that this has happened.

A lawyer is absolutly neccessary in this case - perhaps check into your states legalaid chapter if money is an issue.

Call anyone who might listen, be it a reporter (tv/print), any sort of congressional person (county/state/fed), call the other police departments (state/county vs local etc) just keep working the phones until you can get someone to listen, hell go do it in person if you have the time.

I'd just keep screaming it until I found the help I need.

I'm also curious as to how they could get any sort of POA when her husband/your uncle is mentally sound.

Good Luck and keep this updated if you can?


Edit - Someone beat me to it (sorry), This sure has exploded here, in my mind that just re-affirms how bad the situation is, I'm sure that person is out there and able to help, you just have to find them. GL again.
 

anno

Golden Member
May 1, 2003
1,907
0
0
what a horrible story. :(

the topic led me to expect a nice story and I'm just.. dumbstruck. I hope that happens to those people too. well.. they're already dumb, so.. I just hope they get struck. soundly.

 

aplefka

Lifer
Feb 29, 2004
12,014
2
0
Wow, that's so fvcking, I don't know. This sounds familiar though, I think this happened to someone here locally a year or two ago. I hope everything works out.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
48,775
3
81
Tell your uncle that it is not about revenge. That it not about hate malice towards the kids.

Make him understand that he must do it for his and his wife's self-respect. That will hopefully get him fired up.

Call the news places yourself and tell them to send someone over to talk with him to see what they can do to help him out.
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
He's 82 and heartbroken over losing his wife. He's having trouble getting the energy to leave the house right now I think. I haven't personally seen or talked to him since this happened. He's my dad's uncle (his mom's brother), and he's being looked after by people I trust to do what's right. Unfortunately the police don't seem to be taking it seriously and I suspect his pride is getting in the way of making this into the media circus that SHOULD happen (believe me, I've been pushing for that since day 1.)
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
Harley's wife died yesterday, at her daughter's home. The fvckers published an obituary that didn't include Harley in the "survived by..." and made no mention of her marriage to him or the last 10-15 years that she lived here in Oregon. :|
 

Legendary

Diamond Member
Jan 22, 2002
7,019
1
0
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Harley's wife died yesterday, at her daughter's home. The fvckers published an obituary that didn't include Harley in the "survived by..." and made no mention of her marriage to him or the last 10-15 years that she lived here in Oregon. :|

Any updates other than this?
What happened to your Uncle is terrible, I hope you/your Uncle can coerce the legal system into doing its damn job.
However, with the publication of a obituary, wouldn't it be easier to find these assholes? Maybe consider hiring a PI? If they are/were living off welfare/insurance, someone HAS to have an address.
 

Koing

Elite Member <br> Super Moderator<br> Health and F
Oct 11, 2000
16,843
2
0
This is SO fvckedup man :(

I hopeyour uncle gets his stuff and things back. Losing your wife would be dramatic and earth shattering enough but losing all your 'security and money' would just be a kicker in the balls :(

Koing
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
38,107
433
136
You need to raise hell about this.

I seroiusly doubt that power of attorney would stand up under any scrutiny.

Viper GTS
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
Harley doesn't even know yet. They're waiting to tell him tomorrow when his neice comes back from a trip. She is closest to him and will help him get through it.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
24,227
3
76
Holy crap. Time to call a lawyer and get this sh1t straightened up QUICK. Can they track his credit cards?
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
He got all his cards cancelled. His sister (my dad's mother's sister) and her husband have been helping him sort out his finances and consulted a lawyer. As much as I would like to be involved, I'm not close enough to the situation to do anything but gripe to my parents. My mom is still working on getting a change in state law to prevent this from happening to anyone else.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
24,227
3
76
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
He got all his cards cancelled. His sister (my dad's mother's sister) and her husband have been helping him sort out his finances and consulted a lawyer. As much as I would like to be involved, I'm not close enough to the situation to do anything but gripe to my parents. My mom is still working on getting a change in state law to prevent this from happening to anyone else.

The power of attorny definitely wont stand up in court. Assuming they find the bastard I would think all this is very fixable.
 

maziwanka

Lifer
Jul 4, 2000
10,415
1
0
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
He got all his cards cancelled. His sister (my dad's mother's sister) and her husband have been helping him sort out his finances and consulted a lawyer. As much as I would like to be involved, I'm not close enough to the situation to do anything but gripe to my parents. My mom is still working on getting a change in state law to prevent this from happening to anyone else.

The power of attorny definitely wont stand up in court. Assuming they find the bastard I would think all this is very fixable.

i agree.

i know you don't want to get involved, but you could write a brief synopsis of what happened and send it in to all the news stations (maybe even 20/20 and the like).

this is utterly ridiculous and needs to be resolved right away.
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
I think so too, but it seems that it's difficult to prove the power of attorney isn't valid, and would "cost more than the money he lost" according to my mom. He lost $42,000. In this state, he would inherit everything because he is the surviving spouse. Unfortunately, there is nothing illegal about withdrawing every dime you have and giving it to anyone you want before you die, even without your spouse's approval. So, with the power of attorney, he had the power to do it himself.

They know exactly where these people live. Hell, the police refused to lift a finger until my mom hit the internet and provided them with the addresses and phone numbers of her kids. As if the police don't have more powerful search tools than google. :roll: The most the police would do was a "welfare check" on her...and it took weeks to get that accomplished.
 

yobarman

Lifer
Jan 11, 2001
11,642
1
0
Wow i really thought this was a made up story until i read the whole thread. What a terrible thing to happen to someone, and what a terrible person that kid is. H'es gotta do whatever it takes. I'd round up quite a posse.
 

Bryophyte

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
13,430
13
81
Oh, furthermore, lawyer fees have to be paid if he wins in court (even if the lawyers agree to work for a cut of his win), whether or not he is able to actually collect the money from the people who took it. Chances of him actually recovering money is low (typical), so he'd end up owing money to lawyers when he's completely destitute.