The single most important thing GOP wants to achieve...

[theeedude]

From the article:



Amazing. But you should know by now, its only the GOP who have a sinister agenda of doing such things.

/sarcasm

Also from the article:
WASHINGTON, Jan. 8, 2009

These are experts who are complaining to Obama about corruption in Bush's FDA leadership asking him to clean house.

 

[blackangst1]

Also from the article:
WASHINGTON, Jan. 8, 2009

These are experts who are complaining to Obama about corruption in Bush's FDA leadership asking him to clean house.

That may be true (although you put it in your own words), but Obama's confirmation of Michael Taylor tops any misdeeds seen in the FDA under Bush. You should look up his record He is worthy of his own thread...

 

[CallMeJoe]

That may be true (although you put it in your own words), but Obama's confirmation of Michael Taylor tops any misdeeds seen in the FDA under Bush. You should look up his record He is worthy of his own thread...

I think he's pointing out the date of the article... before President Obama's inauguration.

 

[Anteaus]

I think this overall arguement is tired. Here are some key points:

1.

Regardless of the party, I'm pretty certain that , ideology aside, both sides want whats best for the country. They might approach it in different directions, but both ultimately want the same thing...a healthy economy in which people can thrive and be the best they can be.

2.

All things being equal, whether a president is a Democrat or a Republican, 95% of the decision making in the oval office will be very similar. The president is the executive officer of the country and thus makes many day to day decisions that have nothing to do with legislation. Remember, the president doesn't make laws, he/she can only recommend them.

In the past couple decades, the media has pushed an incorrect premise that the president is the unofficial head of congress, directing them toward certain goals and deterring them from others. This includes the national budget. Congress in general has given the president (past and present) too much say in what bills are put forward as well as whats in them. Its time for congress to take responsibility for their 1/3 of the power structure in this country and grow up. The president is supposed to be our ambassador and chief of police. He is not a senator, representive or supreme court justice. It's time for the president to do their jobs and stop meddling in the affairs on congress. If you wanted to get bills passed, you should have ran for a different office.

3.

This country has been operating in a deficit since its inception. That this is somehow the fault of a republican or democrat is absolute BS. While it is true that in the recent past the deficit has skyrocketed, there aren't variations of broke. This country is broke today, it was broke 5 years ago, and it was broke 50 years before that. This represents over 100 years of failed economic policy. We might be rich by GDP standards, but we are destitute if you gauge our national bank account.

Lets take health care for examble. Repubs would argue that we can't afford it, and dems say we can't live without it. I personally have no objection to the bill on any ideological grounds, but I believe that if we have to borrow money to do it, then it shouldn't be done and that goes for anything either party wants to do. Lately, it seems when someone says we can't afford to pay out money to specific demographics that's somehow a hate tactic.

If congress wanted to impress the hell out of me, they would throw aside whatever the president wants to do and put together a true economy altering budget that takes us in the black within 10 years. It would mean political fortutude like no other as well as putting together a bill that forbids additional spending for the forseable future until we get the debt paid off. Massive cuts would need to be made across the board. People keep saying that we all need to play our part...well, its time to rehearse. If your sons, daughters, mothers or fathers were borrowing money each month to pay bills, you would be appalled. This is no different. Except it's your money and well being on the line everytime the treasury rights a check.

Stop acting like this is a particular parties fault. Both parties have kept this country broke for as far back as anyone can measure. These problems didn't suddenly show up in the last decade.

4.

We live in a republic, not a democracy. I know many of the people on this board know this, but for some reason it hasn't sunk in for many yet. Stop acting like public polls matter. You have no say. You choose people to make those decisions for you.

I'm mentioning this because I feel that there are many out there who truly don't understand how our government works and have a misguided expectations. Some people truly feel hurt that they aren't being listened to. In truth, they don't have to. When choosing who will get your vote, you really need dig deep down and decide whether their political aspirations are in line with yours, because once they are in office, the only time they need you again is when its time to pull that lever for reelection.

 

[werepossum]

I think this overall arguement is tired. Here are some key points:

1.

Regardless of the party, I'm pretty certain that , ideology aside, both sides want whats best for the country. They might approach it in different directions, but both ultimately want the same thing...a healthy economy in which people can thrive and be the best they can be.

2.

All things being equal, whether a president is a Democrat or a Republican, 95% of the decision making in the oval office will be very similar. The president is the executive officer of the country and thus makes many day to day decisions that have nothing to do with legislation. Remember, the president doesn't make laws, he/she can only recommend them.

In the past couple decades, the media has pushed an incorrect premise that the president is the unofficial head of congress, directing them toward certain goals and deterring them from others. This includes the national budget. Congress in general has given the president (past and present) too much say in what bills are put forward as well as whats in them. Its time for congress to take responsibility for their 1/3 of the power structure in this country and grow up. The president is supposed to be our ambassador and chief of police. He is not a senator, representive or supreme court justice. It's time for the president to do their jobs and stop meddling in the affairs on congress. If you wanted to get bills passed, you should have ran for a different office.

3.

This country has been operating in a deficit since its inception. That this is somehow the fault of a republican or democrat is absolute BS. While it is true that in the recent past the deficit has skyrocketed, there aren't variations of broke. This country is broke today, it was broke 5 years ago, and it was broke 50 years before that. This represents over 100 years of failed economic policy. We might be rich by GDP standards, but we're are destitute if you gauge our national bank account.

Lets take health care for examble. Repubs would argue that we can't afford it, and dems say we can't live without it. I personally have no objection to the bill on any ideological grounds, but I believe that if we have to borrow money to do it, then it shouldn't be done and that goes for anything either party wants to do. Lately, it seems when someone says we can't afford to pay out money to specific demographics that's somehow a hate tactic.

If you congress wanted to impress the hell out of me, they would throw aside whatever the president wants to do and put together and truth economy altering budget that takes us in the black within 10 years. It would mean political fortutude like no other as well as putting together a bill that forbids additional spending for the forseable future until we get the debt paid off. Massive cuts would need to be made across the board. People keep saying that we all need to play our part...well, its time to rehearse. If your sons, daughters, mothers or fathers were borrowing money each month to pay bills, you would be appalled. This is no different. Except it's your money and well being on the line everytime the treasury rights a check.

Stop acting like this is a particular parties fault. Both parties have kept this country broke for as far back as anyone can measure. These problems didn't suddenly show up in the last decade.

4.

We live in a republic, not a democracy. I know many of the people on this board know this, but for some reason it hasn't sunk in for many yet. Stop acting like public polls matter. You have no say. You choose people to make those decisions for you.

I'm mentioning this because I feel that there are many out there who truly don't understand how our government works and have a misguided expectations. Some people truly feel hurt that they aren't being listened to. In truth, they don't have to. When choosing who will get your vote, you really need dig deep down and decide whether their political aspirations are in line with yours, because once they are in office, the only time they need you again is when its time to pull that lever for reelection.

Excellent post.

 

[trenchfoot]

How's this: The repubs main goal is to unify the Country by keeping us at war...permanently, because it's good for business, it's good for the repubs because they get to stay in power, it's good for the military industrial complex, it's good for our allies...or one ally anyway, therefore it's good for the Country....or the repub version of it.

We'd have to pour all our resources into the war(s): taxes (from the middle class) and troop's lives and limbs (from the poor). Thus, we'd have to abolish the Unions for the sake of National Security*, we'd have to give up our freedoms (rights) for the sake of National Security*, and we'd have to get rid of Social Security and any other form of Social Services that the middle class and the poor need but the rich don't for the sake of National Security*, we'd have to keep our borders wide open because we REALLY need the cheap labor now, martial law will have to be declared thus suspending anything else that gets in the way of the repub's agenda and we will all be busy happy suppressed little campers.....sound familiar?

* - Big Business

 

[IGBT]

bring an end to the "60's" obama counter culture,retrograde schoolyard identity.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

95% of what Craig says is stupid. The other 5% is REALLY stupid.

Says the king of the Squidbillys, but I guess you should know, you define stupid so I guess your an expert

 

[GuitarDaddy]

How's this: The repubs main goal is to unify the Country by keeping us at war...permanently, because it's good for business, it's good for the repubs because they get to stay in power, it's good for the military industrial complex, it's good for our allies...or one ally anyway, therefore it's good for the Country....or the repub version of it.

We'd have to pour all our resources into the war(s): taxes (from the middle class) and troop's lives and limbs (from the poor). Thus, we'd have to abolish the Unions for the sake of National Security*, we'd have to give up our freedoms (rights) for the sake of National Security*, and we'd have to get rid of Social Security and any other form of Social Services that the middle class and the poor need but the rich don't for the sake of National Security*, we'd have to keep our borders wide open because we REALLY need the cheap labor now, martial law will have to be declared thus suspending anything else that gets in the way of the repub's agenda and we will all be busy happy suppressed little campers.....sound familiar?

* - Big Business

:thumbsup:

Thats a fairly accurate summary

 

[BoberFett]

Says the king of the Squidbillys, but I guess you should know, you define stupid so I guess your an expert

Hyuk, hyuk! Whatever you say Tex!

 

[werepossum]

Says the king of the Squidbillys, but I guess you should know, you define stupid so I guess your an expert

Probably would be more effective if before you call someone stupid you learn the difference between "your" and "you're", dude.

 

[blackangst1]

I think he's pointing out the date of the article... before President Obama's inauguration.

Understood, and acknowledged

 

[blackangst1]

I think this overall arguement is tired. Here are some key points:

1.

Regardless of the party, I'm pretty certain that , ideology aside, both sides want whats best for the country. They might approach it in different directions, but both ultimately want the same thing...a healthy economy in which people can thrive and be the best they can be.

2.

All things being equal, whether a president is a Democrat or a Republican, 95% of the decision making in the oval office will be very similar. The president is the executive officer of the country and thus makes many day to day decisions that have nothing to do with legislation. Remember, the president doesn't make laws, he/she can only recommend them.

In the past couple decades, the media has pushed an incorrect premise that the president is the unofficial head of congress, directing them toward certain goals and deterring them from others. This includes the national budget. Congress in general has given the president (past and present) too much say in what bills are put forward as well as whats in them. Its time for congress to take responsibility for their 1/3 of the power structure in this country and grow up. The president is supposed to be our ambassador and chief of police. He is not a senator, representive or supreme court justice. It's time for the president to do their jobs and stop meddling in the affairs on congress. If you wanted to get bills passed, you should have ran for a different office.

3.

This country has been operating in a deficit since its inception. That this is somehow the fault of a republican or democrat is absolute BS. While it is true that in the recent past the deficit has skyrocketed, there aren't variations of broke. This country is broke today, it was broke 5 years ago, and it was broke 50 years before that. This represents over 100 years of failed economic policy. We might be rich by GDP standards, but we are destitute if you gauge our national bank account.

Lets take health care for examble. Repubs would argue that we can't afford it, and dems say we can't live without it. I personally have no objection to the bill on any ideological grounds, but I believe that if we have to borrow money to do it, then it shouldn't be done and that goes for anything either party wants to do. Lately, it seems when someone says we can't afford to pay out money to specific demographics that's somehow a hate tactic.

If congress wanted to impress the hell out of me, they would throw aside whatever the president wants to do and put together a true economy altering budget that takes us in the black within 10 years. It would mean political fortutude like no other as well as putting together a bill that forbids additional spending for the forseable future until we get the debt paid off. Massive cuts would need to be made across the board. People keep saying that we all need to play our part...well, its time to rehearse. If your sons, daughters, mothers or fathers were borrowing money each month to pay bills, you would be appalled. This is no different. Except it's your money and well being on the line everytime the treasury rights a check.

Stop acting like this is a particular parties fault. Both parties have kept this country broke for as far back as anyone can measure. These problems didn't suddenly show up in the last decade.

4.

We live in a republic, not a democracy. I know many of the people on this board know this, but for some reason it hasn't sunk in for many yet. Stop acting like public polls matter. You have no say. You choose people to make those decisions for you.

I'm mentioning this because I feel that there are many out there who truly don't understand how our government works and have a misguided expectations. Some people truly feel hurt that they aren't being listened to. In truth, they don't have to. When choosing who will get your vote, you really need dig deep down and decide whether their political aspirations are in line with yours, because once they are in office, the only time they need you again is when its time to pull that lever for reelection.

Well said, and nice 1st post.

WWYB...oh nvm....

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Hyuk, hyuk! Whatever you say Tex!

Nice to see you got those pics developed from the family reunion

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Probably would be more effective if before you call someone stupid you learn the difference between "your" and "you're", dude.

Yeah, I guess you and Bobo have the market cornered on calling people stupid, because you have no other rational coments. I need more practice, dudete

And by the way grammer nazi, your sentence displays worse grammer than mine, but I probably can't learn you nothin

 

[BoberFett]

Nice to see you got those pics developed from the family reunion

Hyuk! Good one Tex! Ya sure got me!

I thought they executed retarded people in Texas? How'd you get a pass?