The single most important thing GOP wants to achieve...

[bamacre]

Yes, the government bureaucrats DO know better how to do that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/08/ap/health/main4708615.shtml

Yup, they do know "better."

 

[GoPackGo]

Obama is likely to be a one term president. However, his replacement will not necessarily be a Republican.

 

[EagleKeeper]

You have engineers/technicians that may know about what they are supposed to do.

Then you have the managers/paper pushers that get in the way and do things for political gain.

As you like to say, doing it for the wrong reason is worse than doing nothing at all.

The liberals did not achieve the prosperity, it was the people themselves by hard work.
It is the government that wants to robs them of their hard work. And they people have allowed it be being able to be bribed with promises.

 

[blackangst1]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/08/ap/health/main4708615.shtml

Yup, they do know "better."

From the article:

"Managers with incompatible, discordant and irrelevant scientific and clinical expertise in devices...have ignored serious safety and effectiveness concerns of FDA experts," the letter said. "Managers have ordered, intimidated and coerced FDA experts to modify scientific evaluations, conclusions and recommendations in violation of the laws, rules and regulations, and to accept clinical and technical data that is not scientifically valid."

Amazing. But you should know by now, its only the GOP who have a sinister agenda of doing such things.

/sarcasm

 

[Craig234]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/08/ap/health/main4708615.shtml

Yup, they do know "better."

Yup, they do know better than 'laymen', or me, or you, how to do it. But you and your libertarian army are welcome to volunteer to replace the federal government.

You DO have the resources, skills, etc. needed to do the public functions millions do now, don't you?

As I said, you are the Taliban, who promote this ideologically nutty view.

Laymen are the new bureaucrats, who can do the government's role better.

 

[Craig234]

You have engineers/technicians that may know about what they are supposed to do.

Then you have the managers/paper pushers that get in the way and do things for political gain.

As you like to say, doing it for the wrong reason is worse than doing nothing at all.

The liberals did not achieve the prosperity, it was the people themselves by hard work.
It is the government that wants to robs them of their hard work. And they people have allowed it be being able to be bribed with promises.

Henry Ford didn't build the Model T, it was the workers. But guess what?

It was liberal policies that transformed a poverty workforce to a middle class one.

It was the liberal leaders and workers who fought for labor rights, organizing rights, and many other things that changed the situation. You are ignorant of that obviously.

The workers did not work any less hard in the days of poverty. It was the rules that changed for them to get more fairly rewarded. Owners didn't do that as a gift.

 

[BoberFett]

This thread is just hilarious, considering the ONLY thing heard from Democrats for the past few years has been about how awful the Republicans are. Very little is said about what Democrats will do to help, only what Republicans would do to hurt the country. You know, if they were in power.

So the Republicans goal is to get into power. Big deal. The Democrats ARE in power, and their most important goal is to keep that power.

Democrats, you're useless idiots.

 

[BoberFett]

Yup, they do know better than 'laymen', or me, or you, how to do it. But you and your libertarian army are welcome to volunteer to replace the federal government.

You DO have the resources, skills, etc. needed to do the public functions millions do now, don't you?

As I said, you are the Taliban, who promote this ideologically nutty view.

Laymen are the new bureaucrats, who can do the government's role better.

95% of what Craig says is stupid. The other 5% is REALLY stupid.

 

[bamacre]

Yup, they do know better than 'laymen', or me, or you, how to do it. But you and your libertarian army are welcome to volunteer to replace the federal government.

You DO have the resources, skills, etc. needed to do the public functions millions do now, don't you?

As I said, you are the Taliban, who promote this ideologically nutty view.

Laymen are the new bureaucrats, who can do the government's role better.

Is this supposed to be a reply to my post or just rhetoric? And why such an authoritarian like yourself would refer to me as "the taliban" is just absurd, and quite ironic. You're the biggest tyrant here.

BTW, more from your beloved government...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5356029

Ignore the extreme right-wing, homophobic, racist slant.

They don't give a shit about science, they give a shit about their owners, Big Pharma. Protecting the American people corporations.

 

[Craig234]

Is this supposed to be a reply to my post or just rhetoric? And why such an authoritarian like yourself would refer to me as "the taliban" is just absurd, and quite ironic. You're the biggest tyrant here.

95% of the opponents' claims about liberals' views here are wrong or lies, and I can't remember the other 5%.

BTW, more from your beloved government...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5356029

Ignore the extreme right-wing, homophobic, racist slant.

They don't give a shit about science, they give a shit about their owners, Big Pharma. Protecting the American people corporations.

Libertarians woud trash citizens' liberties and increase the power of corporations more than any other American political group - unwittingly, but that and a dollar gets coffee.

It's like the way Republicans mask the agenda to impoverish all but the rich with rhetoric like 'the ownership society' - you own the less and less you have.

 

[BoberFett]

LOL, Craig's idea of enriching America is to send 20% of our GDP to Washington DC so they can redistribute it to corporations. Democrats. LOL!

 

[bamacre]

95% of the opponents' claims about liberals' views here are wrong or lies, and I can't remember the other 5%.

Yawn. I guess when you have nothing else to say...

Libertarians woud trash citizens' liberties and increase the power of corporations more than any other American political group - unwittingly, but that and a dollar gets coffee.

Nothing could ever empower a corporation more than government.

 

[bamacre]

LOL, Craig's idea of enriching America is to send 20% of our GDP to Washington DC so they can redistribute it to corporations. Democrats. LOL!

No, no, the new progressive system cuts out the middle man. Now we send our payment directly to the insurance companies. See how efficient they are?

 

[Craig234]

Yawn. I guess when you have nothing else to say...

That's not nothing, you can't deal with the truth, so you have nothing to say, and...

Nothing could ever empower a corporation more than government.

Except a lack of representative government.

Our country's history alone shows that the most laissez-faire - the most 'little government' - periods were the periods the people had the least power.

Indeed the 'small government' has been to shoot the people who tried to organize labor, on behalf of the corporations. Only a strong enough government can stand up to them.

 

[bamacre]

That's not nothing, you can't deal with the truth, so you have nothing to say, and...

Craig, you understand truth like you understand economics.

Except a lack of representative government.

Our country's history alone shows that the most laissez-faire - the most 'little government' - periods were the periods the people had the least power.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (Lord knows you need something). But let's not forget, in these golden days in which we speak, the American people were more "powerful" than anywhere else in the world. Were there problems? Sure. But in those days, the same problems existed all over. Technology and advanced means of communication solved many of those problems, not government.

 

[irishScott]

Obama is likely to be a one term president. However, his replacement will not necessarily be a Republican.

If the Democrats can bring in someone better and Republicans maintain control of at least part of congress, I'd vote blue in 2012.

 

[zinfamous]

The Republicans real goal is to protect the interest of the wealthy Americans while transforming the nation into an impoverished third world country. That way the wealthy people will have an almost unlimited amount of cheap, effectively slave labor to serve them. That is the Republicans' vision.

The Democrats real goal is to make people thrall to the government and take away their independence by regulation and taxation. That way they can get that Big Brother sign up and fulfill their fantasy.

Now, if we could somehow mash these two worlds together, added that all of the super wealthy people are also super intelligent, advanced beings, then we would achieve UTOPIA!!

 

[Moonbeam]

I think the main aim of the Republican party is to outlaw divorce. Them MoFos is goint to hell.

 

[Craig234]

...

You've degraded to idiocy.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Improve the economy? Nope.
Improve health care system? Nope
Small government?
Crack down on illegal mmigration?
Sorry, teabaggers, but no.
National defense?
Taxcuts for the rich?
Close, but no cigar.
Nope, according to the man who hopes to be Republican Senate leader, Mitch McConnell:


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...cconnell-wants-obama-out/?partner=rss&emc=rss

If it means Americans have to suffer while Republicans focus on sabotaging Obama's agenda, too bad, so sad. Getting a Republican elected in 2012 tops all other Republican objectives.

Well, to be fair, getting rid of Obama pretty much encompasses all of those things. :awe:

 

[bamacre]

You've degraded to idiocy.

No. It is not I that idiotically would empower a government you yourself says needs fixing. How about waiting until it's fixed before you empower it so much? Oh, well I guess that would be a very long time to wait, wouldn't it? :hmm:

 

[BoberFett]

95% of what Craig says is stupid. The other 5% if REALLY stupid.

 

[werepossum]

95% of what Craig says is stupid. The other 5% if REALLY stupid.

That still makes me laugh out loud, but now I'm feeling bad about it.

 

[CallMeJoe]

That still makes me laugh out loud, but now I'm feeling bad about it.

The original grew so tedious that I can't appreciate any variation on the theme.

 

[BoberFett]

The original grew so tedious that I can't appreciate any variation on the theme.

I'd stop, but Craig gets seems to be getting worse by the day. Maybe after election day the troll in him will subside.