The single most important thing GOP wants to achieve...

theeedude

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Improve the economy? Nope.
Improve health care system? Nope
Small government?
Crack down on illegal mmigration?
Sorry, teabaggers, but no.
National defense?
Taxcuts for the rich?
Close, but no cigar.
Nope, according to the man who hopes to be Republican Senate leader, Mitch McConnell:
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...cconnell-wants-obama-out/?partner=rss&emc=rss

If it means Americans have to suffer while Republicans focus on sabotaging Obama's agenda, too bad, so sad. Getting a Republican elected in 2012 tops all other Republican objectives.
 

irishScott

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And this is surprising how? I'm sure you could find many democrats who are more concerned about their jobs than the issues as well. The idea of our government isn't that politicians can be trusted for their own sake, it's that we can hold their feet to the political fire if they don't do as they're told. As we're doing now in the midterms.
 

Craig234

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And this is surprising how? I'm sure you could find many democrats who are more concerned about their jobs than the issues as well. The idea of our government isn't that politicians can be trusted for their own sake, it's that we can hold their feet to the political fire if they don't do as they're told. As we're doing now in the midterms.

Could you miss the point a bit more? I didn't think so.

Republicans are ruthlessly out for power like no one else at least in decades.

Their unprecedented use of the filibuster to block anything, including bills they wrote or previously supported, anything to prevent Obama having anything to run on, is an example.

They are supposed to give *some* weight to the good of the country and their constituents to balance their desire for power for their own agenda. They show they basically don't.

It has been going this way a long time, though. Whether it was excusing Nixon's abuses of power, even his sabotaging a peace agreement for our country to win the presidency, or giving Reagan a pass on his illegal activities, or shutting down the government in a showdown under Clinton, or things like blocking all presidential appointees or baselessly impeaching the President under Clinton, their trying to take over the 'special interest lobbying' industry with the 'K Street project', their selling the government to the highest bidder with hundreds of industry representatives put in government oversight for their industries, etc.

What was the group who set the previous record for a record abuse of the filibuster? The last Republican minority in Congress.

They'll sacrifice the nation's well being in their pursuit to get power for the benefit of their wealthy benefactors - poverty, war, corruption are prices they'll pay.
 
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HybridSquirrel

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I always laff when I see people with those Impeach Obama bumper stickers. He didn't do anything illegal, just because you don't like him doesn't mean you can impeach him. Lawl.

I don't really care for party affiliation anymore, I don't agree with someone 100% of the time. But as far as Colorado is concerned, the Dems seem to be the most logical choice. They appear to have their goals set, where as the republican guys are basically just saying well Democrats are the party of Obama so vote for us. (just how it seems like for me)
 

werepossum

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Improve the economy? Nope.
Improve health care system? Nope
Small government?
Crack down on illegal mmigration?
Sorry, teabaggers, but no.
National defense?
Taxcuts for the rich?
Close, but no cigar.
Nope, according to the man who hopes to be Republican Senate leader, Mitch McConnell:


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...cconnell-wants-obama-out/?partner=rss&emc=rss

If it means Americans have to suffer while Republicans focus on sabotaging Obama's agenda, too bad, so sad. Getting a Republican elected in 2012 tops all other Republican objectives.

But making Obama a one-termer is the best way to achieve ALL those things!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ahem, the goal of the Dems is to stay in power. Congrats. You've got half the equation right.

Neither the Reps or the Dems are worth a damn.
 

CallMeJoe

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...If it means Americans have to suffer while Republicans focus on sabotaging Obama's agenda, too bad, so sad. Getting a Republican elected in 2012 tops all other Republican objectives.
I thought Senator DeMented made basically the same proclamation 20 months ago...
 
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The Republicans real goal is to protect the interest of the wealthy Americans while transforming the nation into an impoverished third world country. That way the wealthy people will have an almost unlimited amount of cheap, effectively slave labor to serve them. That is the Republicans' vision.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The Republicans real goal is to protect the interest of the wealthy Americans while transforming the nation into an impoverished third world country. That way the wealthy people will have an almost unlimited amount of cheap, effectively slave labor to serve them. That is the Republicans' vision.


The Democrats real goal is to make people thrall to the government and take away their independence by regulation and taxation. That way they can get that Big Brother sign up and fulfill their fantasy.
 

irishScott

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Could you miss the point a bit more? I didn't think so.

Republicans are ruthlessly out for power like no one else at least in decades.

Their unprecedented use of the filibuster to block anything, including bills they wrote or previously supported, anything to prevent Obama having anything to run on, is an example.

They are supposed to give *some* weight to the good of the country and their constituents to balance their desire for power for their own agenda. They show they basically don't.

It has been going this way a long time, though. Whether it was excusing Nixon's abuses of power, even his sabotaging a peace agreement for our country to win the presidency, or giving Reagan a pass on his illegal activities, or shutting down the government in a showdown under Clinton, or things like blocking all presidential appointees or baselessly impeaching the President under Clinton, their trying to take over the 'special interest lobbying' industry with the 'K Street project', their selling the government to the highest bidder with hundreds of industry representatives put in government oversight for their industries, etc.

What was the group who set the previous record for a record abuse of the filibuster? The last Republican minority in Congress.

They'll sacrifice the nation's well being in their pursuit to get power for the benefit of their wealthy benefactors - poverty, war, corruption are prices they'll pay.

I didn't miss anything, and I pity you if you think the left is any different in this respect. Have fun sucking your fantasy big brother's cock and rationalizing why the left is losing seats this election.

The American people elected Democrats to office after Republican failure. Now Democrats are rationalizing that the people are electing Republicans to office because of... Republican failure. Yeah, that makes sense. :rolleyes:

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Better choice of words would have avoided the PM sent to you

Common Courtesy
 
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Jadow

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Improve the economy? Nope.
Improve health care system? Nope
Small government?
Crack down on illegal mmigration?
Sorry, teabaggers, but no.
National defense?
Taxcuts for the rich?
Close, but no cigar.
Nope, according to the man who hopes to be Republican Senate leader, Mitch McConnell:


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...cconnell-wants-obama-out/?partner=rss&emc=rss

If it means Americans have to suffer while Republicans focus on sabotaging Obama's agenda, too bad, so sad. Getting a Republican elected in 2012 tops all other Republican objectives.

Logical and makes sense. In order for the GOP to get legislation passed that supports their platform, Obama has to go.
 

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I'm torn on the issue of the minority party disagreeing with the majority...I can see it as either being purely for political gain or because they genuinely oppose the policy. Usually it is both! I wish people could find common ground on most issues and agree to disagree on others.
 

Craig234

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Ahem, the goal of the Dems is to stay in power. Congrats. You've got half the equation right.

Neither the Reps or the Dems are worth a damn.

Wrong. You don't understand the difference between 'want power for the sake of the agenda of their benefactors, the few at the top more ruthlessly than anyone in at least decades, willing to sacrifice the good of the nation, war, poverty, corruption to get it' and the Democrats who want power - much more appropriately, not as ruthlessly, with more boundaries, and for a better agenda for the American people. You have a simple and wrong opinion on the similarities.

Of course, the Democrats are not one monolith, they have very good, very bad, and lots in between. But overall, you don't get them.
 

theeedude

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Logical and makes sense. In order for the GOP to get legislation passed that supports their platform, Obama has to go.

That is coming from senate majority leader. He sees his number one thing to achieve is defeating Obama. If that means blocking economic recovery measures to make Obama look bad for 2012, so be it.
 

Craig234

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I'm torn on the issue of the minority party disagreeing with the majority...I can see it as either being purely for political gain or because they genuinely oppose the policy. Usually it is both! I wish people could find common ground on most issues and agree to disagree on others.

It's both - but the Republicans have taken the 'political gain' to an extreme because they think the more than can deny any progress by Democrats, whatever the cost, it helps them.

The lesson they learn from Democrats passing a popular program isn't that maybe they should support the program, or a better version, but that they should not let it pass.
 

theeedude

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Republicans don't offer any good policies of their own, they just want to sabotage the party that does to make themselves look better.
 

Craig234

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The Democrats real goal is to make people thrall to the government and take away their independence by regulation and taxation. That way they can get that Big Brother sign up and fulfill their fantasy.

95% of the things opponents here say Democrats' positions are are wrong or lies. I can't remember the other 5%.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Wrong. You don't understand the difference between 'want power for the sake of the agenda of their benefactors, the few at the top more ruthlessly than anyone in at least decades, willing to sacrifice the good of the nation, war, poverty, corruption to get it' and the Democrats who want power - much more appropriately, not as ruthlessly, with more boundaries, and for a better agenda for the American people. You have a simple and wrong opinion on the similarities.

Of course, the Democrats are not one monolith, they have very good, very bad, and lots in between. But overall, you don't get them.

Actually I was responding to a political hack post. The Dems are going to pimp themselves and the Reps are going to do the same. We non partisans aren't happy with either choice. No one is going to change their minds and we're just going along for the ride. We will pick from two selected candidates when it's time. The chance of someone independent of the political machines getting elected? Nil.

Edit- Misread what Craig quoted. The political hackery was regarding something I quoted.
 
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xj0hnx

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Wrong. You don't understand the difference between 'want power for the sake of the agenda of their benefactors, the few at the top more ruthlessly than anyone in at least decades, willing to sacrifice the good of the nation, war, poverty, corruption to get it' and the Democrats who want power - much more appropriately, not as ruthlessly, with more boundaries, and for a better agenda for the American people. You have a simple and wrong opinion on the similarities.

Of course, the Democrats are not one monolith, they have very good, very bad, and lots in between. But overall, you don't get them.

You are so disgustingly partisan, and simple minded, such a proper sheep for the herding.
 

werepossum

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The Republicans real goal is to protect the interest of the wealthy Americans while transforming the nation into an impoverished third world country. That way the wealthy people will have an almost unlimited amount of cheap, effectively slave labor to serve them. That is the Republicans' vision.

The Democrats real goal is to make people thrall to the government and take away their independence by regulation and taxation. That way they can get that Big Brother sign up and fulfill their fantasy.
Sadly, both of these goals have the same result - an impoverished, powerless populace dependent on government.

I'm torn on the issue of the minority party disagreeing with the majority...I can see it as either being purely for political gain or because they genuinely oppose the policy. Usually it is both! I wish people could find common ground on most issues and agree to disagree on others.

To give the devil his due, it's hard for the Republicans to find common ground when they aren't allowed to even see the legislation before voting on it, much less contribute to the process.

except that approval ratings 2 years in has very little correlation for his reelection chances.
True, although my post was more of a joke. But since you brought up his approval ratings . . .
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/Hi_assets/TopHitPageNews.html
37% baby!
 
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