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The shoe throwing incident...did it make you feel good?

Hell YES! It's nice to see that his "welcome the troops with flowers" has come back to insult him personally.
 
Strange question. I don't think it will ever make me feel good seeing someone attack the President of the United States. It might make me happy to see President Bush verbally confronted by an aggrieved Iraqi family member of a civilian killed in the war (as this man apparently was) if I believed Bush were really capable of taking in their perspective, but I don't think he's really an empathetic person, so what's the point?
 
Personally I think throwing a shoe is kind of silly. What is sad is that Iraq cant figure out whether to set the guy free or throw him in jail, or charge him with a crime. It seems like attacking any head of state deserves at least some jail time. Attacking any person like that should at least be considered assault.

People should be ashamed of having joy when a person is assaulted in public. If you have hate in your heart then you are a sick person.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Personally I think throwing a shoe is kind of silly. What is sad is that Iraq cant figure out whether to set the guy free or throw him in jail, or charge him with a crime. It seems like attacking any head of state deserves at least some jail time. Attacking any person like that should at least be considered assault.

People should be ashamed of having joy when a person is assaulted in public. If you have hate in your heart then you are a sick person.
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walk a mile in his shoes first.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Personally I think throwing a shoe is kind of silly. What is sad is that Iraq cant figure out whether to set the guy free or throw him in jail, or charge him with a crime. It seems like attacking any head of state deserves at least some jail time. Attacking any person like that should at least be considered assault.

People should be ashamed of having joy when a person is assaulted in public. If you have hate in your heart then you are a sick person.
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What does a shoe throwing incident have to do with hate?
It's not like the President was in any danger. The very worst scenario is a black eye.
 
The ironing is of course that he can throw a shoe at the president (and live) only because of that president. Had he even joked about throwing a shoe at Saddam or one of his ilk he would have been tortured and killed along with his entire family.
 
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
The ironing is of course that he can throw a shoe at the president (and live) only because of that president. Had he even joked about throwing a shoe at Saddam or one of his ilk he would have been tortured and killed along with his entire family.
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very true, and as much as I hate some of our politicians I don't want to see this happen to any of them.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
I think it's a complete disgrace that somebody in the country we liberated would be that disrespectful.
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For all we know his wife's head was liberated from its neck, so without knowing his reasons I cannot really judge him. He's obviously angry and a lot of Iraqis have a reason to be angry. Just as a lot of Americans do for the debacle.

 
Originally posted by: spidey07
I think it's a complete disgrace that somebody in the country we liberated would be that disrespectful.
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Pretty much. I mean, I didn't think we should be there in the first place, and Bush has been a terrible president overall, but I think they're ultimately better off without Saddam. In return we become the butt of another joke.
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
He got the shit beat out of him after, that made me feel good.
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Yes from what I hear he sustained a broken arm and some broken ribs while in cusody.
Sounds very similar to Saddam Hussein's regime no?
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
He got the shit beat out of him after, that made me feel good.
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Yes from what I hear he sustained a broken arm and some broken ribs while in cusody.
Sounds very similar to Saddam Hussein's regime no?
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Pretty thuggish. I do not ever condone the government ever physically harming a suspect who is properly restrained. It is barbaric and unseemly.

 
Originally posted by: badnewcastle
Originally posted by: spidey07
I think it's a complete disgrace that somebody in the country we liberated would be that disrespectful.
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This and more.
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and if his family had been killed by us soldiers? or his brothers murdered by terrorists because he cooperated with the US? you are both pretty blind to the real world where it isn't all black and white. "Oh, we're free, the US is great! Too bad about my daughter mistakenly getting shot by a US soldier, at least I can vote now!" Life for them was at least stable under sadaam, even if they had no freedom. I'm not saying it isn't better to be free, but to completely fail to understand why an iraqi might actually hold a grudge against the us president is seriously obtuse. you've got tens or hundreds of thousands of dead iraqi civilians, each one with friends and family, so extrapolate that out for an idea of how many people aren't jumping for joy at the us invasion. you have zero empathy. the fact that your country was liberated is cold comfort if your neighborhood is rubble, your family tortured to death, you have no infrastructure, no job, and the president shows up to wave hi. but yeah, complete disgrace that any person in such a country could feel the slightest ill will towards america.
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
He got the shit beat out of him after, that made me feel good.
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Yes from what I hear he sustained a broken arm and some broken ribs while in cusody.
Sounds very similar to Saddam Hussein's regime no?
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And? It wasnt the Secret Service.


Saddam's team would have tortured him with electric hookups to his testicles and then shot him. So no, actually, it doesnt sound similar.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
He got the shit beat out of him after, that made me feel good.
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Yes from what I hear he sustained a broken arm and some broken ribs while in cusody.
Sounds very similar to Saddam Hussein's regime no?
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Pretty thuggish. I do not ever condone the government ever physically harming a suspect who is properly restrained. It is barbaric and unseemly.
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One brother claims he was severely beaten and the media hyped that claim. Another brother claims he was not beaten and the media pretty much ignored that claim.

Anyway, the Iraqi shoe hurler seems a bit more contrite now that his moment of anger might have netted him 2 years in the clink:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28295066/
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
He got the shit beat out of him after, that made me feel good.
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Yes from what I hear he sustained a broken arm and some broken ribs while in cusody.
Sounds very similar to Saddam Hussein's regime no?
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Pretty thuggish. I do not ever condone the government ever physically harming a suspect who is properly restrained. It is barbaric and unseemly.
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One brother claims he was severely beaten and the media hyped that claim. Another brother claims he was not beaten and the media pretty much ignored that claim.

Anyway, the Iraqi shoe hurler seems a bit more contrite now that his moment of anger might have netted him 2 years in the clink:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28295066/
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And of course you believe the contriteness even though we haven't seen his face or heard his voice since.
I suspect it'll be a few weeks before we see him as a bruised suspect wouldn't look good on the front page of Drudge.
 
"This is your farewell kiss, you dog! This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."
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"... and the brave men and women of the US who died for your lies."
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My biggest regret - he missed (or he didn't step in camel dung prior to the heinous act of 'insulting a foreign leader').

Hey Dubs ... guess which finger I'm holding up?
 
Yes I am ashamed of my president and my countrymen who voted for him, no I wasn't really happy to see a shoe thrown at the President, yes I am ashamed of the barbaric acts of imperialism that have claimed hundreds of thousands of lives and been packaged and sold as "spreading democracy".

In other words, to quote Chris Rock (when discussing OJ's double-homicide), "I ain't sayin it's right, I'm just sayin I understand"
 
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: piasabird
Personally I think throwing a shoe is kind of silly. What is sad is that Iraq cant figure out whether to set the guy free or throw him in jail, or charge him with a crime. It seems like attacking any head of state deserves at least some jail time. Attacking any person like that should at least be considered assault.

People should be ashamed of having joy when a person is assaulted in public. If you have hate in your heart then you are a sick person.
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walk a mile in his shoes first.
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He can't, Bush still has them.
 
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