The Second Amendment is...

[FrustratedUser]

Thou shalt not nef and touch yourself at night?

 

[Ladies Man]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: JDub02
Too bad the government likes infringing on it everyday. 🙁

anti-gun nuts don't realize that police only show up after the crime to draw chalk outlines and figure out why you got killed and who did it ...


If we all carried firearms, 9/11 wouldn't have been a tragedy ... 19 gun totin' hijackers are no match for several hundred gun totin' Americans. 🙂

19 knife-wielding terrorists are no match for ONE gun-totin' passenger. Period. Unfortunately, if said passenger isn't shooting along the aisle and hits one of the sidewalls or a window, the whole plane is basically fuxed.

you could shoot 50 holes through the side of the plane and it wouldn't be fuxed as you put it... damn you people and your silly tv thoughts about people sucked out of a hole in an airplane...

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: JDub02
Too bad the government likes infringing on it everyday. 🙁

anti-gun nuts don't realize that police only show up after the crime to draw chalk outlines and figure out why you got killed and who did it ...


If we all carried firearms, 9/11 wouldn't have been a tragedy ... 19 gun totin' hijackers are no match for several hundred gun totin' Americans. 🙂

19 knife-wielding terrorists are no match for ONE gun-totin' passenger. Period. Unfortunately, if said passenger isn't shooting along the aisle and hits one of the sidewalls or a window, the whole plane is basically fuxed.

you could shoot 50 holes through the side of the plane and it wouldn't be fuxed as you put it... damn you people and your silly tv thoughts about people sucked out of a hole in an airplane...

yeah i was going to post this. it was proven that a bullet hole will not "fuxed" a plane. they are stronger then that.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: phantom309

Originally posted by: JDub02
Too bad the government likes infringing on it everyday. 🙁

anti-gun nuts don't realize that police only show up after the crime to draw chalk outlines and figure out why you got killed and who did it ...


If we all carried firearms, 9/11 wouldn't have been a tragedy ... 19 gun totin' hijackers are no match for several hundred gun totin' Americans. 🙂

As a gun enthusiast I get it, but I really wish you guys would stop using that stupid 9/11 analogy. It does nothing but make us look like ignorant trigger-happy rednecks. Would you please spend thirty seconds and think about why a gunfight aboard a 747 involving a hundred or so inexperienced, untrained, undisciplined gun totin' Americans might not turn out well?

No crap.

I'm all for gun ownership. But come one people that say if they were on that plane they would have shot them is bullcrap.

a gunfight aboard a 747 is silly. its to compact and to crowded. odds on hitting someone sitting there is good.

So you think one or two casualties is too high of a price to pay to save thousands of lives?

 

[Ulfwald]

In a nation governed by the people themselves, the possession of arms to defend their nation against usurpers within and without was deemed absolutely necessary. This right is protected by the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. A gun was an everyday implement in early American society, and Jefferson recommended its use. "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. ME 5:85, Papers 8:407

 

[Yzzim]

Now don't flame me for this question, as it is just a question.

What's to say that the terrorists wouldn't have had guns onboard the airplane? If civilians could carry guns on planes then what's to say the terrorists wouldn't have? Weren't they all American citizens? If not, then this question is meaningless.

 

[ryzmah]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
2nd amendment still isn't applied to the states, so it doesn't really matter. As a citizen of the US NATIONAL government you have a right to bear arms, but the amendment hasn't been applied to the states yet (if i recall correctly).

Not as it's interpreted by the supreme court - just ask a resident of Washington, D.C.

Anyone else find it fascinating that the one place in the U.S. where you don't have the right to bear arms has the highest murder rate in the country (with 80% of the murders with handguns)?

 

[Sspidie99]

We should all carry guns. Then that way we can settle disputes with guns fights instead. Lets put a gun in the hands of every women and child. Instant justice wouldn't that be something in this day and age of instant gradifaction. Forget road rage, lets go in there guns blazing. Forget fist fights, lets just shoot each other instead. ye ha!

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Sspidie99
We should all carry guns. Then that way we can settle disputes with guns fights instead. Lets put a gun in the hands of every women and child. Instant justice wouldn't that be something in this day and age of instant gradifaction. Forget road rage, lets go in there guns blazing. Forget fist fights, lets just shoot each other instead. ye ha!

Why is it that the people attempting to make the smart-ass posts in this thread are the ones that have the worst spelling and grammar? 😛

 

[dangereuxjeux]

The law states, that for the purpose of a well-armed militia, you may have a gun. Gun ownership is legal in the U.S., but it shouldn't come from the 2nd Amendment.

All logic says that carrying guns has absolutely nothing to do with protecting yourself, and everything to do with liking having a gun... Nothing wrong with liking your gun, but look at countries with stiffer gun laws (read: Canada or UK) and their murder instances. Much lower than ours here in the United States. But the cat's already out of the bag, so gun activists will always counter the ol' standby argument: "If the criminals have a gun, I'm damn sure gonna have a gun..." Statistics, forgive me for not looking them up right now, also show that if your house is robbed, your chances of survival are better without a gun.

For the Jefferson quote: I'm sure we could go look up other advice from the 18th century, say, medical advice. It would sound ludicrous today. So does that gun quote. A gun is too quick and easy a way for people to express their lack of self-control with dire consequences (robbery, fights turned bad, school shootings, etc.).

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
2nd amendment is being eroded by the 1st amendment.

well we threw out the tenth amendment over 100 years ago so it's about time.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: dangereuxjeux
Nothing wrong with liking your gun, but look at countries with stiffer gun laws (read: Canada or UK) and their murder instances. Much lower than ours here in the United States.

Care to back your baseless claims?

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: dangereuxjeux
The law states, that for the purpose of a well-armed militia, you may have a gun. Gun ownership is legal in the U.S., but it shouldn't come from the 2nd Amendment.

Of course not, lets just burn that silly little Constitution, it just keeps getting in the way!

All logic says that carrying guns has absolutely nothing to do with protecting yourself, and everything to do with liking having a gun... Nothing wrong with liking your gun, but look at countries with stiffer gun laws (read: Canada or UK) and their murder instances. Much lower than ours here in the United States. But the cat's already out of the bag, so gun activists will always counter the ol' standby argument: "If the criminals have a gun, I'm damn sure gonna have a gun..." Statistics, forgive me for not looking them up right now, also show that if your house is robbed, your chances of survival are better without a gun.

Your point? Look at Sweden. Extremely high gun ownership, most males of military age have a fully automatic rifle in their houses, and they have a lower rate of both accidental and intentional deaths from guns.

But look at England's rates of robbery since the ban. Skyrocketed. Maybe, just maybe, the fact that they banned the have banned guns and (seperately, but at roughly the same time) denied the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property might have had something to do with it.

For the Jefferson quote: I'm sure we could go look up other advice from the 18th century, say, medical advice. It would sound ludicrous today. So does that gun quote. A gun is too quick and easy a way for people to express their lack of self-control with dire consequences (robbery, fights turned bad, school shootings, etc.).

For the Jefferson quote: I'm sure we could go look up other advice from the 18th century, say, advice on censorship and free speech. It would sound ludicrous today. So does that gun quote. An email is too quick and easy a way for people to express their opinions without appropriate government control and has dire consequences (fair elections, factual debates, etc).

This is what would happen if we all decided that a part of the Constitution is obsolete. If you dont like it, get 66% of the country to agree with you, and you can re-write the Constitution.

Look, the USSC has ruled the cops are not there to protect you. You cant sue them if you get mugged, shot, stabbed, or raped. Defending yourself is your job. You would apparently be satisfied with a rolled up newspaper. I'd be satisfied with a G18C 😉😀. As it is, I'll have to settle for something in either 45 or 10mm, and I'll be picking it up this summer along with my CCW. I'm a fan of the trusty 45 ACP, but I've got to admit the 10mm puts out some nice numbers.

 

[Mookow]

Oh, yeah... Viper GTS, what are you packing?

 

[Bulk Beef]

Gun ownership is legal in the U.S., but it shouldn't come from the 2nd Amendment.

It doesn't. The right to keep and bear arms is a natural, God-given (if you lean that way) right. The 2nd Amendment merely acknowledges that preexisting right as unalienable.