The reasons guys cheat

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
There's only one reason that men cheat, and it's quite simple. They do not have discipline/self control.

This from a man that lives in Beaverton.

HAHA!

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Booster

Projecting the image of your towel on me? Please don't. Heck, how do you know that I even have any towels or not. You know only you own towels and talk about them No offense meant, BTW.

None taken. I don't need a towel. I go home to her every night.

Very nice! How much did the boob-job cost? Did you buy it for her?

amish

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Booster

Projecting the image of your towel on me? Please don't. Heck, how do you know that I even have any towels or not. You know only you own towels and talk about them No offense meant, BTW.

None taken. I don't need a towel. I go home to her every night.

Very nice! How much did the boob-job cost? Did you buy it for her?

amish

Believe it or not they are real. First time I saw her I thought they were fake as well.....

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Booster

Projecting the image of your towel on me? Please don't. Heck, how do you know that I even have any towels or not. You know only you own towels and talk about them No offense meant, BTW.

None taken. I don't need a towel. I go home to her every night.

Very nice! How much did the boob-job cost? Did you buy it for her?

amish

Believe it or not they are real. First time I saw her I thought they were fake as well.....

Wow! That is nice...

 

[Booster]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
There's only one reason that men cheat, and it's quite simple. They do not have discipline/self control.

Yeah, that's b/c many (if not the majority) of us men think with our head.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Booster

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
There's only one reason that men cheat, and it's quite simple. They do not have discipline/self control.

Yeah, that's b/c many (if not the majority) of us men think with our head.

Obviously the wrong one.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Booster

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
There's only one reason that men cheat, and it's quite simple. They do not have discipline/self control.

Yeah, that's b/c many (if not the majority) of us men think with our head.

Obviously the wrong one.

Actually, you have to let them both do a bit of thinking IMO. The northern head is in charge but allows the southern head to serve as a consultant of sorts. Let either one do all the thinking and you'll either spend all your time doing calculus problems or humping the couch depending on which one you're talking about.

 

[Trygve]

Originally posted by: Kev
it's an evolutionary reason why men cheat. they naturally want to increase their reproductive potential by impregnating as many females as possible. this increases their number of offspring and thus their fitness.

women on the other hand, naturally want to raise their children and find a mate who can provide for her to increase her offsprings' chance of survival, hence they are less likely to cheat.

i'm not trying to be sexist, it's just evolution.

Except from the standpoint of evolutionary psychology and studies of primate behavior, the optimal female strategy for reproductive success is to bond with a strong, high-status male and then fool around a bunch on the side. She gets a greater genetic diversity blended with her genes and her offspring gains the protection, etc., of the high-status male who thinks they're his.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Booster

Who speaks of bodily fluids and stuff like that... A human isn't an animal. Rules of life are different for animals and humans. Maybe for an animal it's OK to have as much sex as they can get, but if you look closely at the problem you'll find out that animals also live by very strict rules regarding sexual actions. They do it usually on specified times, like once a year or something like that. It isn't like the only thing they're doing is thinking about sex or having it.

and

And tell me these girls are now happily married with kids, have a loving and faithful husband. I don't buy it.

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What I don't like in this story is that a minister married that woman. I wouldn't have.

and

Maybe that's why I don't have a girlfriend/wife. I don't want to waste my time on such a woman who's been sleeping around with everybody else but me. Thinking about it makes me feel really pissed off. Of course, I do know I have sexual issues like I said. Maybe I'm too jealous. To each his own, but I can't overcome this part of my personality.

Please don't ever procreate.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Booster

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
There's only one reason that men cheat, and it's quite simple. They do not have discipline/self control.

Yeah, that's b/c many (if not the majority) of us men think with our head.

Obviously the wrong one.

Actually, you have to let them both do a bit of thinking IMO. The northern head is in charge but allows the southern head to serve as a consultant of sorts. Let either one do all the thinking and you'll either spend all your time doing calculus problems or humping the couch depending on which one you're talking about.

Consultant, yes. But only in the right situation. If you're in complete control over yourself, your penis can bitch all it wants about getting some. When the right time comes, use it. Otherwise tell it to shut the hell up.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Booster

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
There's only one reason that men cheat, and it's quite simple. They do not have discipline/self control.

Yeah, that's b/c many (if not the majority) of us men think with our head.

Obviously the wrong one.

Actually, you have to let them both do a bit of thinking IMO. The northern head is in charge but allows the southern head to serve as a consultant of sorts. Let either one do all the thinking and you'll either spend all your time doing calculus problems or humping the couch depending on which one you're talking about.

LOL!

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Trygve

Originally posted by: Kev
it's an evolutionary reason why men cheat. they naturally want to increase their reproductive potential by impregnating as many females as possible. this increases their number of offspring and thus their fitness.

women on the other hand, naturally want to raise their children and find a mate who can provide for her to increase her offsprings' chance of survival, hence they are less likely to cheat.

i'm not trying to be sexist, it's just evolution.

Except from the standpoint of evolutionary psychology and studies of primate behavior, the optimal female strategy for reproductive success is to bond with a strong, high-status male and then fool around a bunch on the side. She gets a greater genetic diversity blended with her genes and her offspring gains the protection, etc., of the high-status male who thinks they're his.

but then the high-status male kills off any offspring that isn't his

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Booster

So what you are saying is that sex robs a man of his precious bodily fluids and thus corrupts his purity of essence?

Who speaks of bodily fluids and stuff like that... A human isn't an animal. Rules of life are different for animals and humans. Maybe for an animal it's OK to have as much sex as they can get, but if you look closely at the problem you'll find out that animals also live by very strict rules regarding sexual actions. They do it usually on specified times, like once a year or something like that. It isn't like the only thing they're doing is thinking about sex or having it.

Am I the only one is this thread that has ever seen Dr Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb?

Oh well....that's why I only drink rainwater and pure grain alcohol.

 

[Ime]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Booster

Who speaks of bodily fluids and stuff like that... A human isn't an animal. Rules of life are different for animals and humans. Maybe for an animal it's OK to have as much sex as they can get, but if you look closely at the problem you'll find out that animals also live by very strict rules regarding sexual actions. They do it usually on specified times, like once a year or something like that. It isn't like the only thing they're doing is thinking about sex or having it.

and

And tell me these girls are now happily married with kids, have a loving and faithful husband. I don't buy it.

and

What I don't like in this story is that a minister married that woman. I wouldn't have.

and

Maybe that's why I don't have a girlfriend/wife. I don't want to waste my time on such a woman who's been sleeping around with everybody else but me. Thinking about it makes me feel really pissed off. Of course, I do know I have sexual issues like I said. Maybe I'm too jealous. To each his own, but I can't overcome this part of my personality.

Please don't ever procreate.

Don't worry. With an outlook on life such as that, no woman will want him.

 

[Booster]

Don't worry. With an outlook on life such as that, no woman will want him.

Allright, you finally nailed me. Yes, it's true, every woman I ever tried to make friends with rejected me. I got tired of being constantly rejected and humiliated. And I'm gonna tell you this... I'm not that kind of a man you might think. They rejected me? Screw them. I don't need these women or any frigging sex even for free, and I'm not going to pay the ultra high price for it (not only with money, but basically with myself and my entire life). Yes, I don't have friends, b/c I don't need friends like those I could have. Yes, I made a mistake. I screwed up my entire life, ending up like a complete loser from your point of view, but I'm the winner because I wasn't cheap and I didn't sell myself for cheap to whores and stuff, I was myself and if they didn't like me the better for me.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Booster

Don't worry. With an outlook on life such as that, no woman will want him.

Allright, you finally nailed me. Yes, it's true, every woman I ever tried to make friends with rejected me. I got tired of being constantly rejected and humiliated. And I'm gonna tell you this... I'm not that kind of a man you might think. They rejected me? Screw them. I don't need these women or any frigging sex even for free, and I'm not going to pay the ultra high price for it (not only with money, but basically with myself and my entire life). Yes, I don't have friends, b/c I don't need friends like those I could have. Yes, I made a mistake. I screwed up my entire life, ending up like a complete loser from your point of view, but I'm the winner because I wasn't cheap and I didn't sell myself for cheap to whores and stuff, I was myself and if they didn't like me the better for me.

How did you become this brain-washed?

Sex will not ruin your life if you:

A) Wear a condom
B) Be at least somewhat discreet in you choice of partners

amish

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Beau
Sorry.. I have to disagree.

Sex is a privillege - not a right - only to be shared with the one person you love. It's the defining characteristic of an intimate and committed relationship. If you didn't save sex for them, what would set your relationship different from that of yours and, say, your best bud?

Just MHO. You don't have to agree with me.

hmmm that's only if you are putting the weight on sex, which I think is definitely stupid, actually I'd say utterly retarded. People who think that way usually have had very few or no sex partners. Once you been with a half dozen women even, you begin to realize how little sex matters in determining a life long partner. This believe is one of the major contributing factors to divorce/cheating....people marry their 'first' and then wonder why they start wanting to go out later on in life alone.

can you not express your opinion without coming off as a self righteous asshole? As I said, it's my opinion.

I had the view you expressed before I had been with as many people as I have been (10, btw). I regret not waiting. One thing I've learned, sex without commitment brings too many possible complications: accidents do happen, condoms do break, people do keep secrets, feelings - more often than not - do develop. As I said, I regret being with everyone else, other than my fiance, purely for the reason that it enrages me to think of her with anyone else, and the same with her.

As for abstaining (I said "save sex" in referrence to one already being in a relationship, as in only your partner gets it), of course you should play the field, just be sure to do it wisely.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Booster

So what you are saying is that sex robs a man of his precious bodily fluids and thus corrupts his purity of essence?

Who speaks of bodily fluids and stuff like that... A human isn't an animal. Rules of life are different for animals and humans. Maybe for an animal it's OK to have as much sex as they can get, but if you look closely at the problem you'll find out that animals also live by very strict rules regarding sexual actions. They do it usually on specified times, like once a year or something like that. It isn't like the only thing they're doing is thinking about sex or having it.

The preceding reference to Dr. Strangelove went right over your head right beside a sensible concept of human sexuality.

 

[Trygve]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: Trygve

Originally posted by: Kev

women on the other hand, naturally want to raise their children and find a mate who can provide for her to increase her offsprings' chance of survival, hence they are less likely to cheat.

Except from the standpoint of evolutionary psychology and studies of primate behavior, the optimal female strategy for reproductive success is to bond with a strong, high-status male and then fool around a bunch on the side. She gets a greater genetic diversity blended with her genes and her offspring gains the protection, etc., of the high-status male who thinks they're his.

but then the high-status male kills off any offspring that isn't his

You're thinking of male lions and tigers killing the cubs that are already born when they "hook up" with a female. I don't think this generally happens with primates or with offspring born later, even if they have a different father.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Booster

Don't worry. With an outlook on life such as that, no woman will want him.

Allright, you finally nailed me. Yes, it's true, every woman I ever tried to make friends with rejected me. I got tired of being constantly rejected and humiliated. And I'm gonna tell you this... I'm not that kind of a man you might think. They rejected me? Screw them. I don't need these women or any frigging sex even for free, and I'm not going to pay the ultra high price for it (not only with money, but basically with myself and my entire life). Yes, I don't have friends, b/c I don't need friends like those I could have. Yes, I made a mistake. I screwed up my entire life, ending up like a complete loser from your point of view, but I'm the winner because I wasn't cheap and I didn't sell myself for cheap to whores and stuff, I was myself and if they didn't like me the better for me.

You need some t to the h to the e to the rapy......

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Booster

You are seriously, seriously naive. You have an unfortunate malformed perception of women these days, and some day you'll get a rude awakening; when you find our your SO *was* one of these women.

Maybe that's why I don't have a girlfriend/wife. I don't want to waste my time on such a woman who's been sleeping around with everybody else but me. Thinking about it makes me feel really pissed off. Of course, I do know I have sexual issues like I said. Maybe I'm too jealous. To each his own, but I can't overcome this part of my personality.

Eventually you're going to have to, or find a woman who's never been with another man. Then of course you run the risk of her need to "explore." I bet the percentage of women who remain abstinent and then remain with the same man for their entire sexual lives is extremely low.

It sucks, but it's reality.

To sharpen the point I almost made...

Prior to civilization, humans rarely lived past 30. Often only to the early 20's. So we've (as animals) developed our sexual peaks early to facilitate the production of as many children as possible. This is fine from a purely animalistic standpoint, but makes things difficult when we try to apply our morals.

As youth, we have much less self control and understanding of the consequences of our actions. So a very large percentage of us, particularly ones with less-than-perfect home lives, tend to be promiscuous. As a teen, I was emotionally starving, and nailed anything that moved. It helped/hurt that I was (and apparently still am at 32...see another thread that I'm gonna start after this) a rather good looking blond/blue guy. So, in my search for emotional fulfillment, I slept with any fem that I possibly could. A dry week was rare.

I met my wife when she was dating my best friend. She also had (and still has) lots of issues, and was using him as a way to escape her home life. My being a "slut" didn't prohibit some honor. I refused her advances, since she was hitting on me pretty regularly. Plus, she wasn't my type since I usually went after the little "hottie" types, and she isn't one of those. But she hung out with us a lot, since we were all friends, and I found she was such a perfect fit that I found myself talking to her more and more outside of the group too. She finally left my friend and we did hook up.

The sex was amazing. Having the emotion in there made it so much more than just sex. My morals and my emotions both say that cheating wouldn't be worth the crappy sex I would get. Without the emotion, it's just flat.

So between my human intelligence-created morals, and my emotional response to this woman, there's just not much desire to cheat, or even interest in other women. (Too bad I can't say the same for my wife... but that's another thread.)

 

[Isla]

This is actually a very interesting thread.

I was talking with a friend of mine about my recent difficulty and his response was that in some ways, I should probably be glad that the old man still wants a piece of the old lady, conscious or not. At least I'm wanted, right? That his own biggest fear is to wake up one day and not be attracted to his mate... so he just refuses to choose one.

Women--- at least this one---- are very different from men. I had one boyfriend who resembled Quasimodo more than Brad Pitt but I loved him dearly anyway. (He dumped me by the way... thought he would play the field... and then I met The Mister so I told him No when he begged me to come back to him.)

For me, attraction is dependent on love. If I love you, I am attracted to you, and I don't really think to want anyone else. Imagine a duckling who has just hatched. She sees you, and you are IT for her from then on. To a point, anyway.

I am starting to think that men in general are just very controlled by their sex drives and don't really understand what love even is until their hormones start to abate a bit.

(I know I promised to be quiet, but this is just such an interesting thread!)

 

[shiner]

I just don't buy the whole "guys cheat for sex, women cheat for love" argument. I know plenty of women who are just as sex crazed as any guy.

 

[Lyfer]

They are fvking horny.


It's not rocket science. Damn.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
I just don't buy the whole "guys cheat for sex, women cheat for love" argument. I know plenty of women who are just as sex crazed as any guy.

Well, it's because not ALL women cheat for love and not ALL men cheat for sex. Can't generalize! There are just different types of personalities who are motivated by different things.