The Really Official Apple Event Thread of Awesome

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Anyone know if the new 8 gig model has a gimped processor like the current gen one?

 

[Phobic9]

Anyone know if the new 8 gig model has a gimped processor like the current gen one?

Doesn't seem like it from everything I've read.

 

[Patranus]

It seems the new IPT is video only... like the previous generation Nano was. If it's the same camera, he would've mentioned something about a backlit sensor and talked about the HDR that's coming in iOS 4.1. Of course this is the pessimist in me talking, and knowing that this is at least a HD 1280x720 capable camera, I think you can get some decent stills off of it even if it has to be downsampled to say 640x480 to be decent. The stills for the previous Nano were terrible, but that was a VGA camera with probably as bad quality as the original VGA camera phones like on the Moto V300 in 2004.

“You should have seen it!” is a thing of the past. Because with iPod touch, you’ll always have a great HD video camera with you. Say you’re at a party and you see someone popping and locking. You’re ready to capture the moment in all its glory. In high-definition 720p video. You can record video in low-light settings, thanks to the advanced backside illumination sensor. You can even edit and create your own
mini blockbuster right on iPod touch using the new iMovie app — with Apple-designed themes, titles, and transitions. It’s available on the App Store for $4.99.

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/

Video recording, HD (720p) up to 30 frames per second with audio; still photos (960 x 720) with back camera

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html

 

[Patranus]

new apple tv looks nice and at a decent pricepoint. whats going to make or break it for me is how open it is on formats streamed from a computer. knowning apple it will be pretty restrictive, although the mod community did wounders for the original appletv so we'll see what magic it can work for this one.

Video formats
H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format

http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

 

[theeedude]

A4 can't handle 1080p?

 

[alfa147x]

iTV is perfect for my parents... for me Meh
We have 3 xbox 360s and 2 ps3s in the living room hooked up to two TVs... I still kinda want one I'm looking forward to the hacks

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

is the body of the ipod touch 4 the same as the iphone4?
it looks like it's using the older 3rd gen body.

 

[Patranus]

They should have added in AirPort Express features into the AppleTV and canceled that product.

 

[timswim78]

I'm surprised he didn't demo the Touch, also it appears it cannot take photos?

Video recording, HD (720p) up to 30 frames per second with audio; still photos (960x720) with back camera
VGA-quality photos and video up to 30 frames per second with the front camera
Tap to control exposure for video or stills
Photo and video geotagging over Wi-Fi

http://store.apple.com/us_epp_67909/...co=MTM3NTEyOTc

 

[Falloutboy]

yeah atv defenatly is going to need some hacks to open it up to supporting more formats. I mean hell i don't even see divx support in there (not that i'm surprised but can't be that hard to add)

 

[KentState]

I've been holding out for an iPod Touch, but now the question is to save $50 and get the 3rd gen model or is there enough in the 4th gen to justify the difference.

 

[TheStu]

I've been holding out for an iPod Touch, but now the question is to save $50 and get the 3rd gen model or is there enough in the 4th gen to justify the difference.

Better display, cameras, better battery life, iOS 4 out of the box, better processor, more RAM (probably).

For me, that would be worth $50

 

[bucwylde23]

I really want a iTouch mostly for the apps/games. Games for android just aren't there yet. I just wish the 32 GB wasn't 299 still.

 

[Phobic9]

Just be aware that the camera on the new iPod touch takes pics at not even 1 megapixel. It's nice to have, sure, but Apple made sure it's not even close to the iPhone 4's camera.

I really want a iTouch mostly for the apps/games. Games for android just aren't there yet. I just wish the 32 GB wasn't 299 still.

Agreed. I actually thought about getting an iPhone 4 just for this reason. I currently have an iPad and a Droid X.

I have issues.

 

[sactoking]

Don't care too much about the ipod stuff, but since I've been looking into various media options recently I have to say the AppleTV announcement is pretty bad.

It's a Netflix/YouTube streamer? So is the Roku, which is cheaper. You can rent movies for $4.99? Netflix is cheaper. You can rent TV shows for $0.99? An antenna is $10. It's guts for being a media extender look to be pretty weak. The SageTV Home Theater 300 is much more robust and $150.

Seems like it's too pricey to be a low-end streamer and too weak to be a cheap extender. And I think the TV rental model is bound to fail. It may be moddable, but there are other devices that don't need to be modded around the same price point.

 

[Kaido]

So Airplay -

http://www.apple.com/itunes/airplay/

Looks neat...but can you stream different songs to different speakers, or only one song to multiple speakers? Sonos would be dead if they did that!

 

[alfa147x]

Holy mother of JESUS we have USB:

Go Hackers!

 

[jpeyton]

So did Steve Jong Il admit failure when the new Shuffle brought back the buttons?

 

[Patranus]

So did Steve Jong Il admit failure when the new Shuffle brought back the buttons?

More or less.
Still sucks that it doesn't have the dock connector or micro USB.

 

[Kaido]

So did Steve Jong Il admit failure when the new Shuffle brought back the buttons?

What are you talking about...that's just a free case built into the previous-generation iPod Shuffle. It just happens to have control buttons :biggrin:

 

[Kaido]

Holy mother of JESUS we have USB:

Go Hackers!

I hope Plex will run on it. I hope that Apple realized that adding a USB port and opening it up to hackers meant that Plex could be ported somehow and do 1080p and multiple video formats and whatnot.

Although I'd settle for Boxee...$100 less than a Boxee Box, and you could probably hack that USB port for Bluetooth (if the new ATV doesn't already have it) to use the Boxee remote

 

[Phobic9]

So did Steve Jong Il admit failure when the new Shuffle brought back the buttons?

More or less.

From the Engadget liveblog:

"So let's start off with the iPod shuffle. We thought we could make a really affordable player that is super easy to use. The second generation was even better. The third generation we took off the buttons. but people clearly missed the buttons... so what are gonna do? The new iPod shuffle."

 

[BlueWeasel]

I've been waiting for the Nano announcement as I'm thinking of picking up a 16GB Nano. Don't think the new design is for me and will probably go with last year's design.

 

[jpeyton]

Go Hackers!

What's the point?

The new Apple TV is an iTunes-crippled version of better media streaming devices that are already on the market. Buy a Western Digital WD TV Live Plus; no hacking needed and it already has 1080p support, along with support for infinitely more media formats.

 

[dmw16]

Don't care too much about the ipod stuff, but since I've been looking into various media options recently I have to say the AppleTV announcement is pretty bad.

It's a Netflix/YouTube streamer? So is the Roku, which is cheaper. You can rent movies for $4.99? Netflix is cheaper. You can rent TV shows for $0.99? An antenna is $10. It's guts for being a media extender look to be pretty weak. The SageTV Home Theater 300 is much more robust and $150.

Seems like it's too pricey to be a low-end streamer and too weak to be a cheap extender. And I think the TV rental model is bound to fail. It may be moddable, but there are other devices that don't need to be modded around the same price point.

I think the AppleTV is actually a game changer. I know it seems so-so at first glance, but I think that the price of the unit, the ubiquity of the iTunes model, and the ease of use could do for TV content what the iPod/iTunes did for music.

The TV rental model seems ideal to me. I hate paying $90/month for cable so that I can watch 10 of the 300 channels that I get. I'd much rather pay for the content I want and discard the rest of it. I think as more and more people contemplate getting rid of cable and replacing it with iTunes/netflix/etc I think that the content providers will get on-board and make it a very viable platform.

What's the point?

The new Apple TV is an iTunes-crippled version of better media streaming devices that are already on the market. Buy a Western Digital WD TV Live Plus; no hacking needed and it already has 1080p support, along with support for infinitely more media formats.

I think the point is that such a huge audience is comfortable with the iTunes concept. The WDTV caters to a market like Anandtech members. Where the AppleTV caters to a much broader audience.

No question the new ATV isn't the most powerful device out there, but I think the mass market appeal of Apple will mean a lot more users (compared to Popcorn Hour, WDTV, Roku, etc) and thus the content producers/providers will take notice and make provide more content making this a viable platform.