You're
really scraping the bottom of the barrel here sultan. Do you even remember the topic of this thread? Sure doesn't seem like it.
WHAT?!? Is this coming out of your @ss? There is ONE article from weeklystandard which supports this. And even IF Poland did participate, is this your idea of a coalition of "liberators"?
No, it's coming from me actually watching black-clad GROM personel standing on the gangway of an Iraqi oil facility as commentary footage on CNN back when Warsaw got pissy over US officials divulging Polish participation. No doubt they didn't want to be viewed by other Europeans as active participants in the war; maybe they were more comfortable with only being viewed as a police force, but there they were all the same. Don't you recall the State Department saying they were receiving support from a number of countries, some of which who chose to remain anonymous?
I digress, go
HERE and scroll down to the date of April 2, 2003.
Better yet, you can go to their unofficial
website - note the list of campaigns they've taken part in.
Yes, they were part of a coallition of liberators. Sadaam is no different than Hitler, Stalin, or Milosevic, and GROM helped remove him. Sounds liberating to me.
So that's one more thing that has nothing to do with the topic that I've proved you wrong over. Who exactly is talking out their ass again?
Moving on....
Try to read these with an OPEN mind and not filter out anything and everything that would make your "case" look better. Look at the human impact:
From the same article: "The United Nations has also criticized Iraq for spending only a tiny fraction of its U.N.-approved oil proceeds on improving nutrition for children. However, there was never free and unrestricted purchase of any goods under the oil-for-food program, and the sanctions committee has at times denied or delayed delivery on some foods and medicines sought by Iraq."
Well we already knew that Sadaam was more interested in providing his thug regime with shiny new toys than his poeple with food and medicine. Sadaam tried to gain dual-use items under the program a number of time, and the UN acted accordingly. Your point?
I'm not denying the human impact, I'll be the first to admit that's one of the bad parts of having to deal with a self-absorbed scumbag like Sadaam. Good thing he's gone now huh? Do tell, what sanctions are in place currently?
2nd link isn't working for me for some reason.
For fvcksakes, read with an open mind. When I mention Chalabi, you are content to note you were right about him, while you completely miss that this was the character of one of "exiles" that you mentioned were asking for US to overthrow Saddam. When I mention the conflict, you completely characterise the insurgents as the evil people. Do you fail to remember it was the US who initiated this war? Bombed Iraq to kingdome come? They're STILL dropping bombs in Baghdad this moment
I mentioned Iraqi exiles, and you assume Chalabi represents Iraqi dissidents worldwide. He doesn't. The link you provided was merely an overview of Chalabi himself, all commonly know facts, nothing more - yet you tout it as some groundbreaking presentation. That second sentence is nothing more than you attempting to put words in my mouth, aiming for a point that just doesn't work. If not, prove it: what exactly is that supposed to mean? I never said Chalabi was the sole representative of Iraqi dissidents as that is simply not true. Apparently someone being the most vocal is good enough for you. That's just sad.
I never claimed all the insurgents were evil people. Again, you're trying to divert away from the real topic at hand with misinformation, stop it. If your argument has enough merit to be considered without being scoffed at, you shouldn't have to resort to these 4th grade tactics.
I would say, in my humble opinion, that roughly 70%-90% of the insurgents are former Ba'athists, Feydayeen, or foreigners coming over the Syrian and Saudi borders. The rest are most likely Iraqis with no love for the US whose ranks are growing by a repetitive cycle of US fvckups.
Yes, I know the US initiated this war - how is that relevent? Bombed Iraq to kingdom come? Last I checked Iraq was still there. Did Baghdad get flattened? No. Did Basra get flattened? No. Did Tikrit get flattened? No. But please, how is that relevent? While it's true that we had some F16s drop a few bombs, some in a foolish show of might, a few more actually going after insurgents, this is in no way anywhere remotely near the amount of ordinance used in the opening days of the war - snap out of it man!
I think if someone came into your house and wouldnt leave, and you couldnt get him out, you would destroy your house so that no one would benefit. Atleast I would. And taking a fair amount of liberty, I would guess 50% of those who, if asked, would have the same opinion as mine.
You are going on the assumption that all Iraqis want the US out immediately, using a weak analogy and a liberal does of opinion. Like the majority of your bullsh!t references, this simply isn't true. Sorry. Your grasp on military affairs seems to be as feeble as BrownAura's. One does not move in, kick out the bad guy, then pack up and leave immediately. Please refer to Japan and Germany for working examples on rebuilding countries.
Let me make this a simple as I can for your miniscule mind:
HOW DOES ANY OF THIS PERTAIN TO MILLER GETTING RECOGNITION FOR DOING HIS JOB?
Can you answer this in a straight forward manner, or will you continue to dance around it like the village idiot?