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JSt0rm

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Just what do you mean by "they"? You must be racist, it's so easy to diagnose that in a forum, I know you're an expert.

They as in all the "dog whistle" people around here. I dont know if you fall under that umbrella but you know if you do and I dont care to find out.
 

JSt0rm

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Wow...just wow. Do you even understand how/when a fetus is a male?

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Do you even evolution, bro?

LegendKiller has been right this entire thread... no way you can support the transvestite Bruce Jenner and not support this woman... or you are a hypocrite, simple as that. They are analogous.

That slope is only going to get more slippery.

Who is this boogyman who supports jenner but not this woman? This "issue" has been magnified by the culture warrior.
 

xBiffx

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I wouldn't have said that we are all women in the womb, but there are certain compounds that, if not expressed, will cause a person to be genetically all male but physically appear all female, to the point that not even their doctors know these people are genetically male without a detailed gynecological exam. (e.g. the womb does not form so the vaginal canal is abnormally short.) So I think his point stands.

Here is an interesting read from Men's Health on it. I'm replying to you because its clear LK has reading issues and I figured you'd find it interesting like I did. ;)

http://www.menshealth.com/health/3-signs-you-started-as-girl
 

Hugo Drax

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She is now claiming that she was abducted by aliens at a young age and they made her African American in some experiment.
 

xBiffx

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So I'm a lesbian.

Yes, so am I. Been telling that one for years. :p

But on a serious note, this is one way that science can explain to us why some people are born, as we call them, homosexual. Some of them may not technically be homosexual if their development was altered. But since they identify differently than what their genitalia ended up as, they could be classified as homosexual.
 
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LegendKiller

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Here is an interesting read from Men's Health on it. I'm replying to you because its clear LK has reading issues and I figured you'd find it interesting like I did. ;)

http://www.menshealth.com/health/3-signs-you-started-as-girl

Geebus wept.

Nobody starts out as a "girl". We start out as a blank slate that evolves into a girl or a boy at specific points dependent on testosterone. The release of testosterone is dependent on the male chromosome being present, ergo, without the male chromosome there would be no testosterone and the blank slate would develop into a female at the appropriate times.

Saying that embryos start out as a girl is like saying they start out as a fish since the same basic structure that can form gills develops glands, ears. But then again, I guess we can all just claim to be Fish now, if we want. Eh?

Saying there is ambiguity because we all originate from females is sheer idiocy. There is ambiguity because people want there to be and people can have mental issues. That's why there is ambiguity from a moral code perspective making some people serial murderers.

You can go ahead and take your BS article from Men's Health, the bastion of genetics, scientific, and developmental medical knowledge. I'll depend on basic biology that isn't dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.
 

Hugo Drax

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What I find interesting is she seems to have worked hard to help African Americans and now they threw her under the back of the bus.
 

JSt0rm

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What I find interesting is she seems to have worked hard to help African Americans and now they threw her under the back of the bus.

The naacp said it was fine. Im sure some black people are mad about this but they dont have a hive mind. Who is throwing her under the bus?
 

JSt0rm

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In other news, there will be a high number of Asian students apply at Ivy League universities as "black" applicants. :D

It would be funny if they took the place of some black kid who fought through all life put in front of him/her and got into a position to actually be considered for that. :rolleyes: super funny.
 

Svnla

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It would be funny if they took the place of some black kid who fought through all life put in front of him/her and got into a position to actually be considered for that. :rolleyes: super funny.

http://www.businessinsider.com/form...-racial-stereotyping-is-alive-and-well-2015-6

"Students for Fair Admission's complaint highlights data and analysis that strongly suggests that white, African-American, and Hispanic applicants are given racial preferences over better qualified Asian-Americans applying for admission to Harvard," the group said in a press release.

Can't beat them, let join them.
 
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nageov3t

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i think its good we allow some underprivileged kids to go to those schools. Some of us have farther to climb on the ladder of success and its hard to ignore the lack of opportunity a lot of black kids have.

diversity admittance has some justification, but it would make far more sense to be done on an economic basis than racial.
 

Svnla

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i think its good we allow some underprivileged kids to go to those schools. Some of us have farther to climb on the ladder of success and its hard to ignore the lack of opportunity a lot of black kids have.

Whatever happens to treat everyone equally, regardless of race, creed, national origin, etc.?

What happens to MLK's speech of "I have a dream"?

Can't have it both ways.
 

JSt0rm

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Whatever happens to treat everyone equally, regardless of race, creed, national origin, etc.?

What happens to MLK's speech of "I have a dream"?

Can't have it both ways.

You are a fucking racist. Its known so stfu.
 

werepossum

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Here is an interesting read from Men's Health on it. I'm replying to you because its clear LK has reading issues and I figured you'd find it interesting like I did. ;)

http://www.menshealth.com/health/3-signs-you-started-as-girl
Yep, that is interesting. I was thinking about the Mexican (IIRC) kids who are raised as girls (and the ones I've seen are damned fine looking girls too) and then after marriage, find out they are genetically male, just got a double copy of a recessive gene. Can't have babies because they never expressed the proper female hormones either, but externally to the most detailed medical inspection they are female, and absent genetic testing the medical diagnosis is female with a relatively slight birth or developmental defect.

So I'm a lesbian.
lol

Geebus wept.

Nobody starts out as a "girl". We start out as a blank slate that evolves into a girl or a boy at specific points dependent on testosterone. The release of testosterone is dependent on the male chromosome being present, ergo, without the male chromosome there would be no testosterone and the blank slate would develop into a female at the appropriate times.

Saying that embryos start out as a girl is like saying they start out as a fish since the same basic structure that can form gills develops glands, ears. But then again, I guess we can all just claim to be Fish now, if we want. Eh?

Saying there is ambiguity because we all originate from females is sheer idiocy. There is ambiguity because people want there to be and people can have mental issues. That's why there is ambiguity from a moral code perspective making some people serial murderers.

You can go ahead and take your BS article from Men's Health, the bastion of genetics, scientific, and developmental medical knowledge. I'll depend on basic biology that isn't dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.
He's not really saying that everyone is a girl embryo, but that everyone starts out as an embryo that except for genetic coding is identical to a female embryo. Only by defining sex as a Y chromosome is everyone not a female embryo. That's a LOT different from saying everyone starts out as a fish. It's certainly possible to be fishlike (many thalidomide babies were essentially just that) but not an actual, mostly functional fish. However, if one has certain genetic faults or developmental issues, a genetic male can easily become a perfectly or nearly perfectly functional female. We simply aren't THAT different.

It can even happen at puberty, for males born with 5-Alpha-Reductase Deficiency. These genetic males (it's mostly known from the Dominican Republic and Papua New Guinea) were perfect girls until puberty, complete with vaginas and undetectable as male even by doctors. Yet even though those males lacked the ability to produce functional 5-Alpha-Reductase enzyme which metabolizes testosterone into dihydrotestosterone which causes us to develop male sexual characteristics, at puberty another powerful enzyme comes online to kick start the process. These children had functional coding for 5-Alpha-Reductase type 1 (actually a different but similar enzyme) which began converting testosterone into dihydrotestosterone. As a result, these functional pubescent girls grew penises and testicles, vaginas closing up, and developed normal interest in "other" girls. They were now male, and many are male without any defects (i.e. they can breed and reproduce.) Others with additional genetic defects (specifically defective genes for 5-Alpha-Reductase type 1 or very low testosterone production for other reasons) never manifest male characteristics and are only discovered to be genetically male by accident or during fertility treatment trying to conceive. http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/5-alpha-reductase-deficiency

Although we perceive people like Bruce Jenner as weird and bizarre because the vast majority of us are (and identify with) our outward appearance, in reality we aren't all that different, and in early development we're pretty much identical except at a genetic level. Sex, like sexual preference, is a much more complicated thing than a boy/girl binary switch, but our default, no expressed hormones form is female.
 
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werepossum

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i think its good we allow some underprivileged kids to go to those schools. Some of us have farther to climb on the ladder of success and its hard to ignore the lack of opportunity a lot of black kids have.
Underprivileged /= black. It could well be a dirt poor Hmung or Rade immigrant whose illiterate parents (or parent) moved to America with nothing more that the dirty clothes on their backs displacing Master Jessie Jackson the 8th. That is the core of America, working your ass off to give yourself and your children a better life. That a particular racial group typically works its asses off is no reason to discriminate against them.
 

highland145

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Underprivileged /= black. It could well be a dirt poor Hmung or Rade immigrant whose illiterate parents (or parent) moved to America with nothing more that the dirty clothes on their backs displacing Master Jessie Jackson the 8th. That is the core of America, working your ass off to give yourself and your children a better life. That a particular racial group typically works its asses off is no reason to discriminate against them.
Preach it, brother.