The president is a criminal

[pcgeek11]

Because impeachment is more of a possibility than just about anyone since Nixon. What would you consider impeachment worthy?
I know this is a broad answer and impossible to give an exact answer for so be broad as you want.

Here’s mine:
Obvious stuff like the President spoke with some Russian spy/ogliarch, statesman about when I need help you breakout this regarding Hillary. The vague part is if the communication went thru his son or someone close enough to the President for it to be believable that they talked about it.
Or as above but it involves a money instead like if I become President I’ll roll back this to make life easier for you and you can give $$ to whatever
The President directly and unquestionably ordering someone not to investigate or use federal power to make life miserable for a critic.

I agree with all of those you mentioned as long as the evidence is solid. Along with accepting money for favors, or paying money or awarding contracts or favors for personal gains. The rules of impeachment are so broad they almost defy definition to be honest about it. For me I would say any illegal use of his office or against the United States.

I do not care about who he had sex with while married or not. I don't care who he paid with his own money to shut up about affairs. I don't care if he likes hookers to pee on him in a hotel.

I really didn't care about Bill hitting up an adult intern with the exception of two things. His executive power over her and lying about it under oath. And to be honest he should have not been doing it in the office of the people. Being married to Hillary I could see where he was coming from.

 

[pcgeek11]

You being completely convinced of something that hasn't happened doesn't make it a fact you imbecile.

I stated that as my opinion.

Nowhere did I state that it was a fact "you imbecile".

Go back and read. "fskimospy" stated that I made that up as a fact, which was a stupid comment.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I agree with all of those you mentioned as long as the evidence is solid. Along with accepting money for favors, or paying money or awarding contracts or favors for personal gains. The rules of impeachment are so broad they almost defy definition to be honest about it. For me I would say any illegal use of his office or against the United States.

I do not care about who he had sex with while married or not. I don't care who he paid with his own money to shut up about affairs. I don't care if he likes hookers to pee on him in a hotel.

I really didn't care about Bill hitting up an adult intern with the exception of two things. His executive power over her and lying about it under oath. And to be honest he should have not been doing it in the office of the people. Being married to Hillary I could see where he was coming from.

I’m with on the sex thing. I have zero interest in whom the President want to fuck. I’m split on if campaign money were used as hush money & if he directed it.
I know that’s illegal so Gary Heart references are not required.
I guess I’d need more facts to decide on that.

 

[pcgeek11]

Based on no evidence. Like I said, you’re pouting so in order to justify it you’re making things up.

Conservatives do this a lot, they try and convince themselves everyone else is as unethical as they are.

I'm making up my opinion? That makes no sense.

Your Bias is showing.

 

[pcgeek11]

I’m with on the sex thing. I have zero interest in whom the President want to fuck. I’m split on if campaign money were used as hush money & if he directed it.
I know that’s illegal so Gary Heart references are not required.
I guess I’d need more facts to decide on that.

As long as it was his own personal money I couldn't care less how many hookers he paid off.

 

[ecogen]

I stated that as my opinion.

Nowhere did I state that it was a fact "you imbecile".

Go back and read. "fskimospy" stated that I made that up as a fact, which was a stupid comment.

He replied to that post with accusing you of making up facts which you denied. Now you're switching it up and saying it was your opinion. Try harder.

I mean seriously the Democrats are hell bent to destroy anything and everything to get Trump with facts or lies it doesn't matter. As long as they get him. So I say, fine get him and get it over with. The country can then move along with President Pence. I'm looking forward to it however it comes out.

Sure as fuck seems like you're stating something you believe to be a fact, no qualifiers to be found.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

As long as it was his own personal money I couldn't care less how many hookers he paid off.

Yeah that’s the tricky part and really tricky if it’s like 99% personal money 1% campaign money because he sent an aid to drop off the check. That’s the tough scenario for me. I know it’s illegal, I don’t want impeaching President over a few thousand dollars to become the norm.
Gets even weirder if the President starts doing dictator like stuff for example only allowing Fox or Briebert in the White House. Maybe then it would be smart to impeach over 1k?
Speculating on impeachement is so difficult.

 

[pcgeek11]

He replied to that post with accusing you of making up facts which you denied. Now you're switching it up and saying it was your opinion. Try harder.

You don't follow a conversation well do you?

Let me help:

Oh I'm not pouting at all. You need to look in a mirror.

I'm looking forward to the Mueller Investigation completing regardless of how it shakes out. If they find enough to impeach and remove Trump from office, do it and proceed on to President Pence.

I mean seriously the Democrats are hell bent to destroy anything and everything to get Trump with facts or lies it doesn't matter. As long as they get him. So I say, fine get him and get it over with. The country can then move along with President Pence. I'm looking forward to it however it comes out.

You’re pouting and making up facts to justify your position again.

What we are talking about here is simply the facts. The problem is that people like you put party before country so the Republicans won’t act on the facts regardless of how damning they are. They will use excuses that are basically identical to what you are saying here.

What facts did I make up? Be specific.

You said Democrats would resort to lies to remove Trump from office. There is no evidence of that.

That is the best laugh I have had all day.

I am completely convinced that if they needed to they would lie cheat and steal to get him removed from office. Listen to them rave about the President, it is obvious.

Point out where I stated that it was a fact?

 

[fskimospy]

I'm making up my opinion? That makes no sense.

Your Bias is showing.

You claim it is an utter certainty, that’s a statement of fact, dummy.

 

[ecogen]

Point out where I stated that it was a fact?

I mean seriously the Democrats are hell bent to destroy anything and everything to get Trump with facts or lies it doesn't matter. As long as they get him. So I say, fine get him and get it over with. The country can then move along with President Pence. I'm looking forward to it however it comes out.

Here you fucking moron. Or do you not know how the English language works? You said the Democrats ARE hell bent etc.etc.

Not I believe, not I think, no qualifier of any sort to indicate this is an opinion. You stated it in a very matter of fact way.

Maybe you should go back to school?

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm making up my opinion? That makes no sense.

Your Bias is showing.

Everyone who has an opinion has formed it in a context. If your opinion is based on previous opinions you have accepted as facts you lead yourself further and further astray. The fact that democrats in your mind would lie cheat and steal to convict Trump of an impeachable offense is based on a character assessment of them based on your own projection because no unbiased and rational minded person would could come to such a conclusion. You hold opinions that are absurd. They are basic bigotry.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I am completely convinced that if they needed to they would lie cheat and steal to get him removed from office. Listen to them rave about the President, it is obvious.

Today the President declared a lawful and proper election procedure "infested" and would seek the winner declared by fiat, which he indeed called for.

I'm not seeing any need to lie here and lying isn't happening, unless that's what facts are these days.

 

[pcgeek11]

Sure as fuck seems like you're stating something you believe to be a fact, no qualifiers to be found.

I do believe it is true that they would resort to lies and anything else as long as they get their desired results. Yes, that is my opinion of what they would be willing to do if need be. I know they haven't done anything yet to make it happen, except all the rumors and crap they keep throwing against the wall. If they had then it would be a fact. For now it is just My Opinion.

I really shouldn't have to explain this as it is obvious in the thread of the conversation.

 

[ecogen]

I really shouldn't have to explain this as it is obvious in the thread of the conversation.

No, it wasn't. At all. Learn to express yourself better.

 

[pcgeek11]

You claim it is an utter certainty, that’s a statement of fact, dummy.

It is a certainty in my opinion. Are you really this thick?

 

[fskimospy]

It is a certainty in my opinion. Are you really this thick?

One of us is thick, haha. If it’s a certainty then you’re making a statement of fact.

 

[fskimospy]

I do believe it is true that they would resort to lies and anything else as long as they get their desired results. Yes, that is my opinion of what they would be willing to do if need be. I know they haven't done anything yet to make it happen, except all the rumors and crap they keep throwing against the wall. If they had then it would be a fact. For now it is just My Opinion.

I really shouldn't have to explain this as it is obvious in the thread of the conversation.

‘I know they haven’t done it yet except for the times they have done it.’

You’re twisting yourself into knots here.

 

[pcgeek11]

Today the President declared a lawful and proper election procedure "infested" and would seek the winner declared by fiat, which he indeed called for.

I'm not seeing any need to lie here and lying isn't happening, unless that's what facts are these days.

Well to be honest about it the Florida Election has had a lot of questionable activities surrounding it.

Trump does have a habit of blowing things out of proportion.

Everyone should be critical of the way Florida had handled their elections for years...Decades. It isn't something new.

 

[pcgeek11]

No, it wasn't. At all. Learn to express yourself better.

Learn to read better.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

do not care about who he had sex with while married or not. I don't care who he paid with his own money to shut up about affairs.

Other than people dismissing this "good Christian" being the antithesis of Christ, he can screw a squirrel. Violating law after the event? Well, we know that now for sure. I thought Bill morally reprehensible for what he did, but that's not what got him in legal trouble, it was the illegal lie. Trump has surpassed him in spades.

Dems don't enter into this at all, accusations of "would lie" is "fake news" and there's no need or justification for that. Don't even mention Dems in this context. It is entirely on Trump and those who support him or would divert from that fact.

You have a choice like the rest of us and party doesn't matter. Moses is coming down from the Mount and you will stand with Trump's Golden Calf and make excuses and blame others for what they "would have done", or step across the dividing line.

If you don't know the story, the Golden Calf folks didn't do so well.

 

[pcgeek11]

One of us is thick, haha. If it’s a certainty then you’re making a statement of fact.

I'm glad you can admit that you are thick.

I am convinced my opinion is correct. It really doesn't matter to me what you think.

 

[pcgeek11]

‘I know they haven’t done it yet except for the times they have done it.’

You’re twisting yourself into knots here.

No, they haven't even started an impeachment yet. So how could they have done it.

 

[ecogen]

Learn to read better.

I know how to read just fine. I also know how to not state my opinions as facts, usually by qualifying them. You're just another living example of the garbage fire that is US primary education.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well to be honest about it the Florida Election has had a lot of questionable activities surrounding it.

Trump does have a habit of blowing things out of proportion.

Everyone should be critical of the way Florida had handled their elections for years...Decades. It isn't something new.

This is entirely new. No President has ever to my knowledge lied about the process and demanded a declaration and an end to the democratic process to install his favored choice. For all the complaining about Bush and Gore, that was handled by the Courts lawfully even if the results weren't what some wanted or were even wrong in conclusion.

This is an example of the antithesis of what this nation has supported since our founding. Florida is a cluster, but there is nothing questionable about the post-election process now.

You really need to choose and stop mitigating the abhorrent. I think you have the capacity to step back and decide to be either a patriot and oppose this outright disregard of the Constitution and democracy or say "well Obama" and "Florida sucks" and cut to the chase. This isn't the opinion of a Democrat or Republican, but as one who believes that the nation still has potential beyond world domination and destruction of the imperfect but better civilization than being sought and defended by Trump and frankly you in the minimization of this atrocity.

This time, these generations that live in the US, may determine whether evil wins across the globe.

There is no mitigation. Choose or don't and you'll still have made a choice.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm glad you can admit that you are thick.

I am convinced my opinion is correct. It really doesn't matter to me what you think.

Haha, more childish lashing out.

Next time don’t present your opinions as facts and you won’t have this problem.