The Pharmaceutical Companies are Evil

[Pliablemoose]

then i'm sorry to hear about your level of ignorance.

please stay on topic. chiropractic care is not the topic, big pharma is.

Yeah, 25+ years in health care, screwed a couple of chiros, used a few with ambulance chasers, dozens of friends and hundreds of patients that have used chiros...

Yeah, chiropractors are a vital part of health care...

How exactly does stretching ligaments and tendons repeatedly on screwed up joints help anyone eits?

I've had patients screwed up for life from chiropractic treatments, not just some loser looking to blame someone, people that have been forever injured by manipulation of joints or parts of the spine that should not have been manipulated.

How about those patients that have lived in pain for years that needed a joint replacement so badly it interfered with their quality of life & health because a chiropractor told them to keep getting expensive "treatments" instead of a joint replacement?

My personal favorite patients are chiropractors that have joint replacement, orthopedic work done, they're real quiet about what they do for a living when they're my patients, I usually see it in their chart and ask about what they do for a living, they usually get a pretty sheepish look on their face...

Are you a straight or mixed chiro eits?

Tell me if you have a certified radiologist on staff to evaluate xrays in your office, for that matter, how old is your xray equipment? Does your xray tech have an college degree, or did they get on the job training & a quicky degree?

Can you give me a standard definition of subluxation?

How about a definition of the placebo effect?

How many patients do you have with standing appointments?

Ever feel guilty eits?

 

[Capt Caveman]

... you've got to be joking.

maybe you didn't read the full thread, but it's already been established that the drug companies do good things, too. that doesn't get them off the hook for all the evil, corrupt shit they do and all the useless drugs they make and market to the american people.

money isn't in vaccines anyway (unless it's the flu shot, since it's given yearly). the money is in the drugs that the commercials tell people they need to ask their doctors about. the money's in the drugs that people need to take for the rest of their lives.

With big pharma, yourself and many of your loved ones might not be a live today. You really are a pathetic individual. Sure there are bad practices, no different than any other industry but they do a vast amount more of good than bad.

Maybe, you should spend your time lobbying your congress men than waste your energy here. I bet you've done nothing about it outside of here. Or heck, blame medical professionals. Seriously, stop trolling.

For those that believe it's only about money, why have no additional cures come out of the non-profit, government, education sectors? Maybe, b/c it's easier said than done to develop cures.

 

[Born2bwire]

do i have any control over whether someone less trained and less skilled adjusts someone improperly?

this thread is about pharmaceuticals... let's keep it that way. if you want to talk about it in pm, i'd be glad to discuss it. otherwise, you're just trying to be a douchebag and completely ignorant.

Wow, so it really doesn't bother you.

Well how many people have to die before it does. Just give me a number then. Five hundred? A thousand? Ten thousand?

 

[eits]

With big pharma, yourself and many of your loved ones might not be a live today. You really are a pathetic individual. Sure there are bad practices, no different than any other industry but they do a vast amount more of good than bad.

Maybe, you should spend your time lobbying your congress men than waste your energy here. I bet you've done nothing about it outside of here. Or heck, blame medical professionals. Seriously, stop trolling.

For those that believe it's only about money, why have no additional cures come out of the non-profit, government, education sectors? Maybe, b/c it's easier said than done to develop cures.

i'm pathetic because i'm against people being given medications unnecessarily? really? i'm pathetic because i think it's wrong that, despite the number of people killed by their drugs, they don't do anything to curb it. instead, they hide facts and research that show dangers of their products from authorities.

also, whether cures for things are developed or not doesn't mean that it isn't all about the money. the two aren't mutually exclusive.

and, by the way, i do send letters to my congresspeople and senators. i also post petitions on my facebook page calling for support against certain bills and support for certain ballot propositions.

when you don't know dick about me, don't open your fatass mouth and accuse me of anything.

 

[Pliablemoose]

i'm pathetic because i'm against people being given medications unnecessarily? really? i'm pathetic because i think it's wrong that, despite the number of people killed by their drugs, they don't do anything to curb it. instead, they hide facts and research that show dangers of their products from authorities.

also, whether cures for things are developed or not doesn't mean that it isn't all about the money. the two aren't mutually exclusive.

and, by the way, i do send letters to my congresspeople and senators. i also post petitions on my facebook page calling for support against certain bills and support for certain ballot propositions.

when you don't know dick about me, don't open your fatass mouth and accuse me of anything.

LOL, didn't take long for your true colors to show through, pretty unprofessional there eits.

Strong work 😀

Now about those standing appointments, I know you have them, otherwise you couldn't keep the office open...

 

[eits]

LOL, didn't take long for your true colors to show through, pretty unprofessional there eits.

Strong work 😀

Now about those standing appointments, I know you have them, otherwise you couldn't keep the office open...

uh, i would have sworn i asked repeatedly to keep the thread on topic and that people could pm me instead of derail the thread.

reading comprehension fail.

 

[Pliablemoose]

uh, i would have sworn i asked repeatedly to keep the thread on topic and that people could pm me instead of derail the thread.

reading comprehension fail.

I think you're missing the big picture eits...

Do you sell homeopathic stuff at your office?

 

[Capt Caveman]

i'm pathetic because i'm against people being given medications unnecessarily? really? i'm pathetic because i think it's wrong that, despite the number of people killed by their drugs, they don't do anything to curb it. instead, they hide facts and research that show dangers of their products from authorities.

also, whether cures for things are developed or not doesn't mean that it isn't all about the money. the two aren't mutually exclusive.

and, by the way, i do send letters to my congresspeople and senators. i also post petitions on my facebook page calling for support against certain bills and support for certain ballot propositions.

when you don't know dick about me, don't open your fatass mouth and accuse me of anything.

The fact that you have provided false data to back-up your argument of the number of people killed and haven't replied back to anyone that have poked holes thru that data.

The fact that you still don't blame medical professionals for over medicating and/or selecting the wrong medication for their patients.

The fact that you blame a whole industry but ignore the vast amount of good that the industry has provided compared to the small amount of bad.

The fact that you work in a profession that has one of the worst reputations in the medical field.

Makes you pathetic.

 

[Born2bwire]

uh, i would have sworn i asked repeatedly to keep the thread on topic and that people could pm me instead of derail the thread.

reading comprehension fail.

Yeah, keep on trying to keep it all under wraps. It's obvious that you do not want people to bring to light your chiropractic patient killing homeopathic views.

 

[eits]

The fact that you have provided false data to back-up your argument of the number of people killed and haven't replied back to anyone that have poked holes thru that data.

The fact that you still don't blame medical professionals for over medicating and/or selecting the wrong medication for their patients.

The fact that you blame a whole industry but ignore the vast amount of good that the industry has provided compared to the small amount of bad.

The fact that you work in a profession that has one of the worst reputations in the medical field.

Makes you pathetic.

i provided false data? when?

there's a difference between blaming medical doctors for prescribing the wrong medications and prescribing too many medications. either way, it'd be irresponsible of me to make a dumbass blanket statement about medical doctors like they're the bad ones here. most medical doctors prescribe medications because that's just how they're taught to treat things when they're in private practice. i speak negatively about medical doctors who accept kickbacks and knowingly and lazily treat patients by over-prescribing, but i'm not going to make broad generalizations about the profression as a whole.

go back and read my posts. i never ignored the good things the pharmaceutical industry's done. however, the bad things they do, to me, create bigger negative ripples... they hurt the economy, hurt patients, and change the landscape of how patients SHOULD be treated as far as HEALTHcare is concerned.

i'm a practitioner of a field that has negative connotations due to the sins of its fathers. that's not me. that's not the profession as it is today. i wouldn't expect you to know this (because it involves actually knowing about the chiropractic profession), but the profession is evolving each year to be less like the way it used to be and more like the way it needs to be... more integrative and not anti-medical. because i'm a good chiropractor, i'm pathetic? that makes total sense... 🙄

you're pathetic for making assumptions about pretty much everything you just posted.