Yep, If you want to talk about an industry built on corruption and lies, lets talk about the chiropractors industry. I've yet to meet someone that goes to the chiropractor that doesn't have to make repeat visits for life for their "problem". They are in the business of making your back pop and then telling you to come back again to keep it aligned.
LOL you're kidding, right?
Educate yourself... go ahead and Google and come back showing me how chiropractic care causes more deaths or injuries that pharmaceutical drugs. Hell, taking NSAIDs have a higher risk of dangerous side effect than chiropractic care
... but above all else, stay on topic. This is a thread about bullshit tactics of the pharmaceutical industry doesthat puts people at serious health risks in order to make a profit and how they rarely go unchecked.
Yep, If you want to talk about an industry built on corruption and lies, lets talk about the chiropractors industry. I've yet to meet someone that goes to the chiropractor that doesn't have to make repeat visits for life for their "problem". They are in the business of making your back pop and then telling you to come back again to keep it aligned.
i was going to write a response to this, but i'd rather not have this thread be about anything other than the pharmaceutical industry.
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IMO, the widespread advertising that has seemingly brought on the "there's a pill for everything" mentality has probably caused some significant setbacks with respect to self-care and the proper utilization of medical resources.
Never got the PM.
Let me qualify my statement. I don't doubt that there are many well meaning and good chiropractors out there that generally have a scientific basing for why they do what they do. However, there is a LARGE percentage of them that are quacks (And perhaps I'm tainted by my location, but most around here are quacks.)
On the other hand, Pharmaceutical doctors and, in general, non-chiropractic medical practitioners, tend not to have the same level of quackary among them. The pharmaceutical industry has to go through some pretty rigorous testing before they can release any sort of drug onto the market. Do some bad drugs get through? Yes. Do some doctors over prescribe? yes. However, by and large, they don't.
I am certainly opposed to the pill-popping attitudes that a lot of Americans have. However, I do think the pharmaceutical industry, in general, is working towards producing needed drugs (At a profit of course).
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirochoose.html My opinions of a good chiropractor
An example of the typical chiropractor where I live. http://www.saltlakechiropractor.com/
On the other hand, Pharmaceutical doctors and, in general, non-chiropractic medical practitioners, tend not to have the same level of quackary among them. The pharmaceutical industry has to go through some pretty rigorous testing before they can release any sort of drug onto the market. Do some bad drugs get through? Yes. Do some doctors over prescribe? yes. However, by and large, they don't.
I am certainly opposed to the pill-popping attitudes that a lot of Americans have. However, I do think the pharmaceutical industry, in general, is working towards producing needed drugs (At a profit of course).
imho, they should reverse the decision to allow advertising of prescription drugs on TV. I don't see any good reason for allowing it. I wonder what the big pharm expenses look like when comparing marketing to R&D.
the kind of testing isn't the issue. it's the way they go about getting people to buy drugs for bullshit diagnoses of which they funded their creation. not only that, but it's about how their practices are knowingly hurting people in the name of making more money.
Just like the banning of cigarette advertisements!!! Oh wait...dude, you and me both.
but i'm afraid that banning the advertising of a sales product would be viewed as unconstitutional under the first amendment...
maybe huge taxes placed on drug companies for direct-to-consumer advertising might help... that as well as flooding the tv with mock drug ads where they're selling a healthy lifestyle and healthy diet rather than a drug... and something like "side effects may include weight loss, a better outlook on life, stress relief, normal blood pressure, better sex life, and many many more"
you know what is REALLY annoying? our medical system of treating patients with pills is called "healthcare"... it couldn't be any worse of a term.
they need to start calling it "sickcare" and start calling healthcare "healthcare"... and we need to start moving away from sickcare and moving towards REAL healthcare.
No, it's not that. Can't advertise tobacco on TV for starters. The FCC is pretty ridiculous.. you can't say "fuck" (cue George Carlin) and you can't show someone consuming alcohol in an advertisement.dude, you and me both.
but i'm afraid that banning the advertising of a sales product would be viewed as unconstitutional under the first amendment...
Personally, I think that all three groups are culpable: pharm. co's, MD's and patients.
The MD's are the biggest problem, though. They should be looking out for the best interests of their patients and protecting them from the pharm co's.
Just like the banning of cigarette advertisements!!! Oh wait...
They actually do run adds like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnbZW7Lm04M
Drugs, and the companies that make them, aren't evil. They are a business, so yes, they try and sell their product. However, I would rather have a world filed with anti-depressant commercials and pharmaceutical companies looking for the next best thing, then one without the commercials and companies that have less funds to look for cures.
MD's aren't usually bad with over prescribing drugs. The worst offenders are psychiatrists.
Personally, I think that all three groups are culpable: pharm. co's, MD's and patients.
The MD's are the biggest problem, though. They should be looking out for the best interests of their patients and protecting them from the pharm co's.
I was under the impression that psychiatrists are MD's, otherwise they couldn't prescribe drugs.
Yes, they are MD's. However, they aren't ALL MDs. To say that all MDs suck because psychiatrists do is like saying all homes suck because mine does. I'm saying there is a specific field of medicine that offends more often the others as far as over prescription goes.
if your doctor is over prescribing you need to switch doctors. Information about medications, their uses and their side effects have never been more available to consumers yet people are still blaming everyone else. If you question why you need a medicine look it up! It's your health, take charge and figure out if what they're telling you makes sense.
