The Pew Pew Thread

[Moonbeam]

I can start a filtered headline news feed too. So many headlines in just one day tho, I don't think I can keep up.

Car nuts describe cars as "fun" and "useful", yet turn blind eyes to the carnage they inflict on society daily. No where in the constitution are cars mentioned, nor are round wheels.
#squarewheelssavelives #thinkofthechildren

Multiple fatalities reported in car accident into river

The Braxton County Sheriff's Office is handling the investigation.

www.wsaz.com

BRAXTON COUNTY, W.Va. (WSAZ) - Three people are dead after a car crashed into a river.

One of the dead is a volunteer firefighter, who was trying to rescue a mother and child who were in the crash.

https://www.wmdt.com/2022/05/child-hit-in-laurel-car-accident/

Paterson, New Jersey hit-and-run crash leaves 1 dead, 6 injured | abc7ny.com

One%20person%20died%20and%20several%20others%20were%20injured%20in%20a%20hit-and-run%20crash%20in%20Paterson%2C%20New%20Jersey%2C%20on%20Tuesday.

abc7ny.com

Passaic County officials said six people were hurt in addition to the fatality during the rampage that unfolded at the intersection of Main Street and Market Street around 3:15 p.m.

GoFundMe started for good Samaritan who was hit by a car while trying to help crash victims in Colorado Springs, suspect still at large

As the search for a suspect continues, a young woman has a long road to recovery after trying to help others.

www.kktv.com

Liberals are familiar with cars. They use them for transportation on a regular basis. They don't look at horsepower as a scary feature. They know they can be deadly weapons but they are perfectly fine based on utility to take that risk. But think of the lives that could be saved if people were only legally able to walk.

If you don't own a gun and they are worried someone will shoot you guns for you will have negative utility, but talk of banning cars just brings up laughter. When you use cars for the convenience of transportation cars suddenly become important to your life. It is the importance of things to the shallow individual that determine his notions of what is ultimately important. The desire to impose what is important to the self entitled Karens of the world is what lead down the road to a Nazi state. What seems logical to the authoritarian personality is what confirms his or her personal and accidentally acquired beliefs.

Authoritarianism is a form of mental illness. Trust me, I am absolutely sure about it.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ Let's not start that again. The purpose of a motor vehicle is to transport persons or cargo. Bad things happen due to accident or misuse. When used as intended, no one gets hurt.

The SOLE purpose of a firearm is to kill people or animals. They have no other purpose. When used as intended, someone or something dies.

 

[nickqt]

^^^ Let's not start that again. The purpose of a motor vehicle is to transport persons or cargo. Bad things happen due to accident or misuse. When used as intended, no one gets hurt.

The SOLE purpose of a firearm is to kill people or animals. They have no other purpose. When used as intended, someone or something dies.

There are hundreds of millions of firearms that have never and will never do more than shoot holes through pieces of paper, which is absolutely another purpose.

But keep yelling into the wind if it makes you feel better.

 

[Bitek]

^^^ Let's not start that again. The purpose of a motor vehicle is to transport persons or cargo. Bad things happen due to accident or misuse. When used as intended, no one gets hurt.

The SOLE purpose of a firearm is to kill people or animals. They have no other purpose. When used as intended, someone or something dies.

Henry Ruggs' Corvette had a designed top speed of 194mph. He smashed into a car at 156mph and the poor woman he hit burned to death.

The only thing that car was intended to haul was ass.

So yes, many things can be dangerous and deadly when in the wrong hands.

 

[Paratus]

https://imgur.com/LwoDkhA

(Apparently the rounds only weigh 1/3 lbs and the rifle 60lbs- according to forgotten weapons)

What if T-Rexes come back? Checkmate gun grabbers.

Edit. Wiki says the guns weigh from 85-120lbs and the rounds are a half pound with a muzzle energy of 52KJ or 38,000 ftlbs equivalent to a 2800lbs car going 20mph.

 

[Gardener]

And just down the road from me, an 8 year old kills a 9 year old. If only someone has a concealed carry permit to prevent this. /s

8-year-old shoots 9-year-old brother with handgun in Federal Way, police say

The 8-year-old had a handgun in the apartment when it went off, striking his 9-year-old brother, according to Federal Way police.

www.king5.com

 

[darkswordsman17]

https://imgur.com/LwoDkhA

(Apparently the rounds only weigh 1/3 lbs and the rifle 60lbs)

What if T-Rexes come back? Checkmate gun grabbers.

Imagine how small of a penis you have to have in order to want that to compensate for it.

 

[Moonbeam]

Imagine how small of a penis you have to have in order to want that to compensate for it.

Imagine how insecure about your penis size you need to be to turn a discussion about guns into a projection of your inadequacies. We’re your life about something other than your trying to compensate for your own personal inferiority complex you might find some common sense leaking in.

Barrel dimensions are important for a number of reasons depending on the intentions of application. For conceal carry the aim is as small as one can manage with personal comfort in the gun’s stopping power. Generally speaking everything is a trade-off. The longer the bullet accelerates down the barrel depending on powder quantity and burn, the faster the bullet will travel and the faster it travels the greater the flatness of trajectory achievable. But ideal barrel length for any one cartridge will willingly be sacrificed by those seeking a more physically manageable size. Few want to hunt in woods or brush or at high altitude for hours on end toting some long range 18 pound monstrosity.

So the fact is that the aim of many depending on purpose want the smallest lightest gun for the job. But since your needs are to compensate for penis size you and suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect, especially when it comes to guns, your ignorant projections are all you have to offer.

By the way, try to see that you are mean to others because you are self tortured. Nobody saw how smart and beautiful you really are because they had the same affliction. Let go of the anger. They couldn’t do other than put you down. They were self tortured too.

 

[pmv]

https://imgur.com/LwoDkhA

(Apparently the rounds only weigh 1/3 lbs and the rifle 60lbs)

What if T-Rexes come back? Checkmate gun grabbers.

Would it not be better to just bash the intruder over the head with it?

 

[Paratus]

Would it not be better to just bash the intruder over the head with it?

I’d say the answer is yes.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Imagine how small of a penis you have to have in order to want that to compensate for it.

Would you like me to send you a pic?

 

[eelw]

Would you like me to send you a pic?

Go ahead and post it in public. We can get you banned from AT.

But again, you’re so dense. The whole thing about over compensating fits well with lack of self confidence to trying to act macho by look I shoot guns and drive a big noisy truck. Your only argument MUH RIGHTS. MUH FREEDUMS!!!!! Again Newsom, go after people who helped the person obtain a gun in a murder ALA Texas abortion bill.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Go ahead and post it in public. We can get you banned from AT.

But again, you’re so dense. The whole thing about over compensating fits well with lack of self confidence to trying to act macho by look I shoot guns and drive a big noisy truck. Your only argument MUH RIGHTS. MUH FREEDUMS!!!!! Again Newsom, go after people who helped the person obtain a gun in a murder ALA Texas abortion bill.

Just can’t control your rabid self when it comes to insults can you?

Look, I have no problem with laws that go after those who help criminals get guns but I do have a problem with gun bans because all they do is punish law abiding gun owners and do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns or committing crimes with them. I am against banning a rifle because it has a piece of plastic on it that you use to hold onto the gun.

By the way, I don’t own a truck.

 

[eelw]

Just can’t control your rabid self when it comes to insults can you

You started it by being all woke and super defensive of 2A. Us in the civilized world just don't get the obsession of guns by Americans. Like sure here in Canada we have an illegal gun issue. But it's in magnitudes far lower than even your strictest gun law states.

Look, I have no problem with laws that go after those who help criminals get guns but I do have a problem with gun bans because all they do is punish law abiding gun owners and do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns or committing crimes with them. I am against banning a rifle because it has a piece of plastic on it that you use to hold onto the gun.

But instead of being all defensive about your guns what should be done about the Buffalo shooter and the like? You're not helping matters by promoting guns for everyone. I keep going back to the civilized world. What crackpot nation has more guns than people???????

By the way, I don’t own a truck.

I only mention the truck because there is a large overlap of low esteem folks and needing to pretend to act all tough with big and loud. I get it, you are a responsible gun owner. But news doesn't indictate otherwise for a large portion though.

 

[Bitek]

And just down the road from me, an 8 year old kills a 9 year old. If only someone has a concealed carry permit to prevent this. /s

8-year-old shoots 9-year-old brother with handgun in Federal Way, police say

The 8-year-old had a handgun in the apartment when it went off, striking his 9-year-old brother, according to Federal Way police.

www.king5.com

Word you are looking for is "gun safe"

From the article:
"Alliance for Gun Responsibility focuses on ending gun violence in Washington.

“Safely storing firearms in particular storing them locked, unloaded and separated from ammunition has proven to work to prevent unintentional shootings,” Ellingboe said."

As discussed a few posts ago, not respecting and handling powerful items foolishly is dangerous.
True for guns, true for cars, true for power tools, true for alcohol. Forget that and you can harm yourself or others.

Over reacting is not sensible either. The response by one of the neighbors is not logical.

"Hassan said his kids play outside every day after school.

"No more going outside, they stay home," Hassan said. "No more going outside. It's scary. I don't want to lose my kids."

 

[Moonbeam]

Just can’t control your rabid self when it comes to insults can you?

Look, I have no problem with laws that go after those who help criminals get guns but I do have a problem with gun bans because all they do is punish law abiding gun owners and do nothing to stop criminals from getting guns or committing crimes with them. I am against banning a rifle because it has a piece of plastic on it that you use to hold onto the gun.

By the way, I don’t own a truck.

He doesn't know what plastic you are talking about would be my guess and I do own a pickup truck. With no lockable trunk to transport my guns in, should I ever decide to go to a range and shoot them instead of just fondling them on dark nights, I will be forced to carry them with me inside the cab. Oh dear God, hopefully I won't have any incidents with some assholes with road rage. I'm not going to have that problem myself because, well, why on earth worry about anything, even if the Zombie Apocalypse happens while you're sitting there in your seat, since you can just reach over, load up, and kill everything for miles around. And just imagine of what the nature the gratitude of all the beautiful unzombiefied women on the highway with me will turn to when they see the size of my gun.

Life is good:

 

[darkswordsman17]

Ahahahaha, holy shit, you gun nutters just cannot help it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Ahahahaha, holy shit, you gun nutters just cannot help it.

Hahahaha, holy shit, what a great contribution to the thread.

 

[nickqt]

Firearms and genitals and trucks, oh my!

A safely owned firearm has never hurt anyone. I don't care how many links you post here about some moron letting their toddler handle their purse .380

Seriously though, some of y'all need to get a fucking grip on reality, otherwise you sound like the right-wingers screaming about the illegal immigrants raping and looting the country or whatever nonsense they've been trained to scream.

 

[eelw]

Seriously though, some of y'all need to get a fucking grip on reality,

The reality is, per capita, the US has 12 deaths per 100k while the next first world nation is Finland at 3. Unless you gun lovers want to be compared to countries like Brazil and Honduras which do have higher gun deaths you have a major problem. And sticking your head on the ground is idiotic. And the US is the only country with multiple school shootings each year. So much for pro life supporters. MUH RIGHTS! MUH FREEDUMS!!!

 

[soundforbjt]

Firearms and genitals and trucks, oh my!

A safely owned firearm has never hurt anyone. I don't care how many links you post here about some moron letting their toddler handle their purse .380

Seriously though, some of y'all need to get a fucking grip on reality, otherwise you sound like the right-wingers screaming about the illegal immigrants raping and looting the country or whatever nonsense they've been trained to scream.

The problem is a lot people will be safe 99% of the time. it only takes one time and people are far from infallible. I understand hunting and target shooting can be fun, I used to hunt. Problem is a lot people don’t buy guns to hunt & target shoot, they buy them for protection and don’t take proper precautions. Regardless of what the Constitution says, some people should never be allowed to own a gun.

 

[K1052]

WTF is going on in this thread?

look, having a weapon in the house or on your person in general makes you less safe to being, shot, murdered, suicide, shooting a loved one, being mistaken for a shooter yourself, etc.

However, there are steps that can be done to mitigate the majority of the extra risk. Not carrying for self-protection outside of very specific circumstances. Keeping the guns locked up and separate from ammunition. Using good weapon handling practices (trigger and barrel discipline, etc), never handling the weapon while impaired (including sick, sleepy, or emotional).

Simply owning a weapon for sport does not make one an gun fetishist or ammo sexual.

The very poor safety practices I see in general are what make me argue that firearms ownership should require some really meaningful amount of training, even if the government has to pay for it.

 

[Bitek]

The reality is, per capita, the US has 12 deaths per 100k while the next first world nation is Finland at 3. Unless you gun lovers want to be compared to countries like Brazil and Honduras which do have higher gun deaths you have a major problem. And sticking your head on the ground is idiotic. And the US is the only country with multiple school shootings each year. So much for pro life supporters. MUH RIGHTS! MUH FREEDUMS!!!

About that, your figures include suicide, which is a significant portion of the deaths, ~7.
It should not be assumed to only occur if there are firearms.

Accidents are fairly rare.

"That said, if one isolates the violent gun deaths and adjusts for population size by expressing the rate as the number of homicides per 100k people, the list changes significantly.

Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador (36.78)
Venezuela (33.27)
Guatemala (29.06)
Colombia (26.36)
Brazil (21.93)
Bahamas (21.52)
Honduras (20.15)
U.S. Virgin Islands (19.40)
Puerto Rico (18.14)
Mexico (16.41)"

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

 

[Moonbeam]

Regardless of what the Constitution says, some people should never be allowed to own a gun.

Let’s look at that carefully. Nothing could be more true. Some people should never be allowed to own guns. But what is the utility of your truth? Some people are already not allowed to own guns. Are you happy with that? I don’t think so.

I think what you really mean is that more people than are allowed to own guns today should not be allowed to own them tomorrow, perhaps even quit a few more, and that, furthermore, you labor under the unexamined certainty that you can and others of similar persuasions have the wisdom to determine for the rest of us who those people should be.

I would call that authoritarian arrogance, left wing authoritarian arrogance in this case. It is also intellectual laziness, in my opinion, like attributing to everyone who opposes some gun laws but would be open to others, of being gun nuts. But it is precisely that emotionally motivated need to assume that your justifiable fear of those ‘some people’ who should not own guns but do that thereby entitles you to determine who they are, that, in my opinion, makes you the actual gun nut.

Gun regulation, the extent and nature of the intrusion into the lives of citizens, is just a subset of that overarching question. It goes to the heart of one’s political views and encompasses how you see your fellow human beings.

Fundamentally you have to ask yourself if there is anything sacred within you that naturally strives for the good, or are you a machine that just turns out to run of whatever program life dealt you as a child.

Seems to me that if our forefathers were wrong and rights have no natural origins than the day will arrive when it is you, who, for the well-being of the frightened, will have to have your rights curtailed even your right to life.

I believe your issue should not be with guns but with how to preserve that thing inherent within that strives for the good, and which, when thwarted and abused from an early age manifests in the violence we see. That, in my opinion, is the root of all evil, the very ill that created the feeling we have the life we deserve, a life we must never hope to change.

 

[nickqt]

The reality is, per capita, the US has 12 deaths per 100k while the next first world nation is Finland at 3. Unless you gun lovers want to be compared to countries like Brazil and Honduras which do have higher gun deaths you have a major problem. And sticking your head on the ground is idiotic. And the US is the only country with multiple school shootings each year. So much for pro life supporters. MUH RIGHTS! MUH FREEDUMS!!!

I know this is going to come as a shock to you, but millions of people to your political left safely own and operate firearms each and every day in this country. Owning a gun isn't a requirement to be a conservative, and hyperventilating about the hundreds of millions of firearms that have never and will never be used to hurt a human isn't a requirement to be a liberal.

Screaming about firearms when there are 400+ million of them is pointless. You can argue for more regulation, more safeguards, etc., but just screaming into the sky about it is absolutely pointless. You aren't going to confiscate any of those firearms without starting a hot civil war, where there are going to be a lot of violent firearm deaths. The ship sailed on banning firearms approximately 230 years ago.

The problem is a lot people will be safe 99% of the time. it only takes one time and people are far from infallible. I understand hunting and target shooting can be fun, I used to hunt. Problem is a lot people don’t buy guns to hunt & target shoot, they buy them for protection and don’t take proper precautions. Regardless of what the Constitution says, some people should never be allowed to own a gun.

Agreed. And minus the right-wing authoritarians who post on here, very few people are going to scream that every US Citizen should be armed starting at 16 months old or whatever.

I believe that you should need to get a license to purchase a firearm, and have a background check every time you want to buy or sell the firearm - that firearm gets attached to you and you are the responsible person for that firearm until you sell it to someone else with a background check.

A firearm isn't dangerous until a human being makes it so, and there are plenty of safeguards responsible people can take.