What is that number, California votes that haven't been counted yet, or the number of whiny losers, who have signed the petition to challenge the electoral college?
What is that number, California votes that haven't been counted yet, or the number of whiny losers, who have signed the petition to challenge the electoral college?
theeedude
Lifer
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Both Trump and Hillary knew going in what the rules were, and how the score would be kept, which is the electoral college, and they campaigned accordingly. It's kind of silly to apply a different standard after the fact. I'd be more concerned about voter suppression and interference by FBI and/or foreign actors, but the electoral system is what it is.
Trump has been elected as the US president by all FAIR MEANS. There was nothing corrupt during the electoral process. And honestly in the whole scenario of people protesting against Trump shows that Democratic voters are completely pissed off to see their leader Clinton not winning the Presidential race. I am not supporting either side but factually speaking, no one should deny the reality. Instead, accept and welcome the new US President whole-heartedly
While he's going to be the president and nothing will change that it has been pretty interesting to see how quickly the Trump crew went from 'the election is rigged and we may not respect the outcome' to 'we won fair and square and everyone needs to respect the outcome'.
Color me totally shocked there, haha.
Wow, such ignorance. Last night on the 60 minutes interview Trump said he still believes the election was rigged. Hilary cheated and still lost.
I've notice that most conservative of above minimal intellect are fully aware trump is a pathological liar, but chose to propagate those lies as a means to a desirable end.
I'm curious which of the conservatives here would admit to this.
WWYBYWB?Trump has been elected as the US president by all FAIR MEANS. There was nothing corrupt during the electoral process. And honestly in the whole scenario of people protesting against Trump shows that Democratic voters are completely pissed off to see their leader Clinton not winning the Presidential race. I am not supporting either side but factually speaking, no one should deny the reality. Instead, accept and welcome the new US President whole-heartedly
Google Tara Ross electoral college. There are other good resources out there that will help you understand.
Obama and Hillary disagreed with you and called Trump as President - elect. Shall I provide a video clip about two of them said so?
lol. In the event you weren't being sarcastic, what they say is irrelevant.
The EC meets in December to cast their votes based on who won their particular state. This is why the snowflake crowd has been circulating that stupid petition to demand that the EC elect Clinton. In January, the congress meets to count the EC votes and certify that Trump did receive the >= 270 EC votes needed to become president.
Puffnstuff
Lifer
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This is how things turned out in my Duval Country which is not the highest population in the state but it is the largest city area wise. The split between R & D is very close, however too many people opted to not vote this time. With 90 million people nationwide sitting this one out the results are proof that getting the vote out is important.
I was thinking about this phenomenon during the week and planned to create a thread about it titled Not as dumb as they look. The gist of it is that liberals & such tend to be honest people who see themselves in others, so they assume statements are made in good faith and by default take them at face value, which implies false statements are a sign of someone's stupidity or ignorance (ie inability to create true statements). An effective adversarial evolutionary strategy to this is to lie; it's not hard to see the benefits of dishonesty in a den of naivety. The liar might be considered stupid, but that's a small price to pay for an effective means to an end.
That's someone who works for several right wing advocacy organizations and a lot of arguments made in it are pretty blatantly false or misleading. Do you have any objective or at least less overtly biased sources?
For example:
Does any sane person think this description describes reality even remotely? The author then goes on to admit that what she said about campaigning in the whole country was false, 'safe' states don't need to be campaigned in because they already think the candidates adequately represent their interests. Does anyone think that's true either?
I mean come on.
buckshot24
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Lots of states had increased turnout. Trump got enough votes in enough states to have beaten Obama in 2012. Turnout as an excuse as to why Trump won simply doesn't work.
buckshot24
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Considering Trump would have lost Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin to Obama in 2012 based on current vote totals what are you basing this on? That's 64 electoral votes right there, which would put Obama comfortably in the lead.
Additionally, turnout seems to have been about 6 million votes lower than in 2012.
buckshot24
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I haven't checked the numbers personally, I read an article that did so. Turns out he was using the wrong database for his numbers.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/442059/dont-blame-clinton-trump-2016-wouldve-beaten-obama-2012
This is me right now...
When the claim is made "The people did NOT vote for Trump", it is interesting to define what "The people" means.
Donald Trump has received a greater percentage of votes (26% of voting-age public) than 2-term president Bill Clinton ever got (topped out at 24.8% of V.A.P.).
Donald Trump has received a greater percentage of votes (26% of voting-age public) than 2-term president Bill Clinton ever got (topped out at 24.8% of V.A.P.).
First
Lifer
- Jun 3, 2002
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lol, says the guy that blew his load in 2012 on conspiracies about Obama losing.
Obama would have creamed him. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vs_trump_compared_to_obama_vs_romney-204.html
First
Lifer
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imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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Yes it is, President-elect Trump won the election, it's over. You've had your cry and you've thrown your tantrum now get over it.
First
Lifer
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buckshot24
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Unlike you I admit when I screw things up. I read the article on National Review and assumed it was correct, once I saw that it wasn't I admitted my mistake. You should try it some time, President Hillary Clinton with 340 EC votes would approve. Hack.
buckshot24
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I don't recall ever citing conspiracy theories. Did they find the 340 EC votes for Hillary yet?
zinfamous
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