The people did NOT vote for Trump

[pcgeek11]

Cornell college university students holding a cry-in.

For real. *sigh*

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/29856/

What a bunch of pussies we have in colleges right now. They have been coddled way too much.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/09/colleges-try-to-comfort-students-upset-by-trump-victory/

“People are frustrated, people are just really sad and shocked,” said Trey Boynton, the director of multi-ethnic student affairs at the University of Michigan. “A lot of people are feeling like there has been a loss. We talked about grief today and about the loss of hope that this election would solidify the progress that was being made.”

There was a steady flow of students entering Ms. Boynton’s office Wednesday. They spent the day sprawled around the center, playing with Play-Doh and coloring in coloring books, as they sought comfort and distraction.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Yep, rich elites buying an election. Gotta love it. This is one of the many reasons why I could never be a liberal; yet another example of slimy hypocrisy.

The EC is unfair it that it undermines the value of certain votes and overvalues other. Honestly the best system is proportional distribution of electoral votes across the board.

That being said is there anything stopping the DNC or billionaires who support them from just paying say 50,000 to relocate to vital states and vote during election years? offer 50k to rent an apartment for a few months or something ? Is that illegal?

 

[boomerang]

What a bunch of pussies we have in colleges right now. They have been coddled way too much.

I'm glad I'll be dead and gone when their generation become leaders. It's bad enough with the huge portion of the electorate we have now that think like teenagers. When the people running the nation think like grade school age children it won't be good.

 

[K1052]

I'm glad I'll be dead and gone when their generation become leaders.

What a coincidence...we're glad too.

Trump is already bringing us together.

 

[pcgeek11]

So you are one of those Pussies?

 

[Starbuck1975]

What a bunch of pussies we have in colleges right now. They have been coddled way too much.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/09/colleges-try-to-comfort-students-upset-by-trump-victory/

“People are frustrated, people are just really sad and shocked,” said Trey Boynton, the director of multi-ethnic student affairs at the University of Michigan. “A lot of people are feeling like there has been a loss. We talked about grief today and about the loss of hope that this election would solidify the progress that was being made.”

There was a steady flow of students entering Ms. Boynton’s office Wednesday. They spent the day sprawled around the center, playing with Play-Doh and coloring in coloring books, as they sought comfort and distraction.

Play-doh and coloring books??? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

Maybe they can make some expressive macaroni pictures too. Just make sure to use organic gluten free soba pasta

 

[K1052]

So you are one of those Pussies?

The laughable predictability of the olds railing against the "kids" who just don't understand the world is as pathetic as it it expected.

Edit: And to clarify I straddle GenY and GenX and as such am looking forward to witnessing the final unraveling of the Boomer's political power through the slow yet inexorable march of mortality.

 

[fskimospy]

The laughable predictability of the olds railing against the "kids" who just don't understand the world is as pathetic as it it expected.

Edit: And to clarify I straddle GenY and GenX and as such am looking forward to witnessing the final unraveling of the Boomer's political power through the slow yet inexorable march of mortality.

It is pretty funny to see people like boomerang rant about how terrible kids are these days with apparently no understanding of the fact that every generation says the same thing.

He seems like a mean, angry, bitter old man. I feel sorry for him more than anything.

 

[Jaskalas]

It is pretty funny to see people like boomerang rant about how terrible kids are these days with apparently no understanding of the fact that every generation says the same thing.

Safe spaces and cry ins.... we can't help it if the level of retardation reaches new heights.

 

[interchange]

This thread is correct.
Hillary did in fact win the popular vote.
So to me, that 100% totally justifies BLOCKING EVERYTHING Trump wants to do, tries to do, desires to do.
Republicans blocked Obama, and Obama actually won the popular vote. Twice!
Trump DID NOT.
I want to see democrats block every Supreme Court justice Trump nominates, to block every single brick of that wall Trump so wants to build, to block every repeal, every replace, every damn hair on this buffoons orange head.

I do believe America is still the greatest most just and fair nation ever to exist.
And I believe we the freedom for all loving American people will have our payback.
I truly believe the forces of good will rise and take this abomination down, along with every damn idiot that cast their vote for him.
Frankly, I truly believe it will be President Donald Trump himself that will take down his own. He will let them down, abuse their trust, ruin their hopes, and ravage them to their very core.
This is called poetic justice or better know as, payback.

A few points:
1. If the founding fathers believed popular vote was the best method, we wouldn't have the electoral college. There is a separate thread discussing alternative ideas you might want to check out.
2. Republicans control the house and Senate. If they support Trump's agenda, Democrats have no power unless something requires a super majority.
3. If you can't beat em, join em? If they did have the same obstructionist power Republicans had with the Obama administration, you think it's good for America to be equally culpable in further polarization of government at the expense of the American people?

 

[sxr7171]

Play-doh and coloring books??? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

Maybe they can make some expressive macaroni pictures too. Just make sure to use organic gluten free soba pasta

Oh come on. These are college students. You know we have to nurture their developing brains. I'm personally going to donate some Lincoln logs for them. Those poor kids.

 

[Sunburn74]

Yep, rich elites buying an election. Gotta love it. This is one of the many reasons why I could never be a liberal; yet another example of slimy hypocrisy.

I'm more pointing out the notion that the EC gives so much power dispropotionately to small states, that small focal swings in population can completely throw the election to another. The margins of victory in a lot of states is ridiculously tiny. Even texas (38 million people I believe) which trump won by 10 percent only meant he won by a little above 800,000 votes (or about a 0.5 percent of the population)

In fact there was a libertarian movement that I believe is ongoing to capture NH. Apparently to win every race on every level for the libertarian party they would need about 400,000 people voting as a bloc, and they have a movement/program encouraging libertarians from other states to relocate to NH as a means of totally dominating the state and having a bigger say on the national stage. That is insane to me, that so few people can have such a huge national impact.

A few points:
1. If the founding fathers believed popular vote was the best method, we wouldn't have the electoral college.

I disagree. First of all, as an outsider but still US citizen, I don't have the same mythical worship of the US constitution far too many here have. Its seen almost as a holy document on some levels and the founding fathers (even that term is a bit of hero worship but whatever) as infallible.

I've seen some extensive discussions about the EC. A lot of scholars argue that it was never about keeping power away from the people (or that was only a minor focus). A lot of it was the lack of technology at the time for rapidly counting votes, delivering news and communication, voting, traveling across the country, etc etc. It just made more sense to have a few people travel and represent the group states in a focal setting because there really was no other way to on a national stage discuss an election results. Today we have twitter and airplanes and cars.

Heck just look at the Amendment about quartering soldiers. Really what relevance does that have today? Our mystically intelligent founding fathers totally nailed that one. They could have put amendments about so much more (term limits, power checks on the supreme court, etc etc). I still find the second amendment totally ridiculous in its lack of qualifiers given the extremes they went to to qualify so much else in the qualification.

A lot of countries mostly in latin america have tried the US constitution as a model. It doesn't really work for them. Its not a universally good system. Its only good if you protect it and constantly adjust it to fit changing times.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

It is pretty funny to see people like boomerang rant about how terrible kids are these days with apparently no understanding of the fact that every generation says the same thing.

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WTF generations held cry-ins and encouraged college students to play with coloring books to get over not liking a legal, legitimate result of the democratic process? I seem to have missed that happening before. Cry-ins and coloring books were for pre-schoolers, not adults with wet diapers.

 

[fskimospy]

WTF generations held cry-ins and encouraged college students to play with coloring books to get over not liking a legal, legitimate result of the democratic process? I seem to have missed that happening before. Cry-ins and coloring books were for pre-schoolers, not adults with wet diapers.

Adult coloring books are actually pretty popular right now. You might be surprised how fun they are! And what's wrong with crying? The whole 'crying is for babies' thing is a sign of an emotionally stunted society.

You may not realize it but every generation comes up with a reason to hate their kids. As I've said many times before there's even a quote from Socrates about how shitty the kids were in his day. Here's a hint: kids haven't changed, you've changed.

 

[FerrelGeek]

The EC gives states power PROPORTIONAL to their size. The EC was intended to protect against the tyranny of the majority; the whole reason why the US was set up as a representative republic and not a pure democracy. A pure democracy is 2 foxes and a hen deciding what to have for dinner. If we had a pure democracy, nobody would pay attention to states with small populations. Currently, those states tend to be more conservative, so it's only natural that libs want them disenfranchised.

So given how things are today, if a conservative candidate wants to win, said candidate needs to appeal to more states than their opponent to win a couple of the key swing states that carry more EC votes. Sure, the dem candidate has to do a similar thing, but when you have a lock on the northeast, IL, and the west coast it's a nice jump out of the block.

But as others have said, if the situation was reversed, the dems would be lining up to defend the sanctity of the constitution and the EC.

I'm more pointing out the notion that the EC gives so much power dispropotionately to small states, that small focal swings in population can completely throw the election to another. The margins of victory in a lot of states is ridiculously tiny. Even texas (38 million people I believe) which trump won by 10 percent only meant he won by a little above 800,000 votes (or about a 0.5 percent of the population)

In fact there was a libertarian movement that I believe is ongoing to capture NH. Apparently to win every race on every level for the libertarian party they would need about 400,000 people voting as a bloc, and they have a movement/program encouraging libertarians from other states to relocate to NH as a means of totally dominating the state and having a bigger say on the national stage. That is insane to me, that so few people can have such a huge national impact.


I disagree. First of all, as an outsider but still US citizen, I don't have the same mythical worship of the US constitution far too many here have. Its seen almost as a holy document on some levels and the founding fathers (even that term is a bit of hero worship but whatever) as infallible.

I've seen some extensive discussions about the EC. A lot of scholars argue that it was never about keeping power away from the people (or that was only a minor focus). A lot of it was the lack of technology at the time for rapidly counting votes, delivering news and communication, voting, traveling across the country, etc etc. It just made more sense to have a few people travel and represent the group states in a focal setting because there really was no other way to on a national stage discuss an election results. Today we have twitter and airplanes and cars.

Heck just look at the Amendment about quartering soldiers. Really what relevance does that have today? Our mystically intelligent founding fathers totally nailed that one. They could have put amendments about so much more (term limits, power checks on the supreme court, etc etc). I still find the second amendment totally ridiculous in its lack of qualifiers given the extremes they went to to qualify so much else in the qualification.

A lot of countries mostly in latin america have tried the US constitution as a model. It doesn't really work for them. Its not a universally good system. Its only good if you protect it and constantly adjust it to fit changing times.

 

[ivwshane]

WTF generations held cry-ins and encouraged college students to play with coloring books to get over not liking a legal, legitimate result of the democratic process? I seem to have missed that happening before. Cry-ins and coloring books were for pre-schoolers, not adults with wet diapers.

I guess hippies and the sixties never happened.
Speaking of wet diapers, the boomers should be a boon to the diaper industry!

 

[FerrelGeek]

Socrates did indeed say that, and the Greeks did eventually decline and fall to the Romans. The Romans eventually declined and fell to the Barbarians. The fall of both was, in no small part, to the general weakening and moral decay of subsequent generations. Even the hippie / free love / flower-child generation of the 60s / early 70s had more backbone than this current lot of snowflakes.

Adult coloring books are actually pretty popular right now. You might be surprised how fun they are! And what's wrong with crying? The whole 'crying is for babies' thing is a sign of an emotionally stunted society.

You may not realize it but every generation comes up with a reason to hate their kids. As I've said many times before there's even a quote from Socrates about how shitty the kids were in his day. Here's a hint: kids haven't changed, you've changed.

 

[FerrelGeek]

And you'll be there eventually, so don't laugh. And as I just said, the hippies had more backbone than many of today's millennials.

I guess hippies and the sixties never happened.
Speaking of wet diapers, the boomers should be a boon to the diaper industry!

 

[sxr7171]

Adult coloring books are actually pretty popular right now. You might be surprised how fun they are! And what's wrong with crying? The whole 'crying is for babies' thing is a sign of an emotionally stunted society.

You may not realize it but every generation comes up with a reason to hate their kids. As I've said many times before there's even a quote from Socrates about how shitty the kids were in his day. Here's a hint: kids haven't changed, you've changed.

You have a point but also our kids have changed. Well their environment has and it's stressing them out and we see it in outbursts like this.

Even a generation ago kids left home at 18 and went to school or got a job. If you choose to get a job after high school or less you will commit to a life of minimum wage plus $3-8 for the rest of your life.

If you go to college you will be in debt for 30 years and make maybe $35k. If you picked a good major then the sky's the limit in theory. At least you can be an engineer making $70-150k.

But I've met many people who just can't handle math or science. They dream of being engineers but they say that math absolutely kills them.

The reality today is that a large proportion of kids, even full grown lawyers are living at home into their 30s. If you choose to have a kid today you better expect to support them to almost 40. That's for the people who plan their kids.

How about the ones that just have kids first and plan later? As if we are still living in an agrarian society. Who will they fall on? The government from cradle to grave. Who is expected to pay for them? You guessed it. The people with the mental fortitude to plan their families, to pay attention in math class and practice until they get into and out of engineering school.

As these people realize that after all is said and done debts and all they really don't live much better than anyone else they will lose the will to do it.

If after all that 60% of your income is taken and also have to pay student loans that you really can't provide much better for your kids than if just took that job out of high school. The incentive to excel must be kept in place.

 

[ivwshane]

And you'll be there eventually, so don't laugh. And as I just said, the hippies had more backbone than many of today's millennials.

Yes they did have a backbone, unfortunately they became exactly what they hated. Boomers, the generation of hypocrites.

 

[Zaap]

There was a steady flow of students entering Ms. Boynton’s office Wednesday. They spent the day sprawled around the center, playing with Play-Doh and coloring in coloring books, as they sought comfort and distraction.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 😀

Ohhhh man. I said it before, ONLY real benefit of a Trump win (at the time I said it I thought it wasn't even remotely possible): 4 years of the left throwing an absolute pants-wetting sissy-fit.

Let the crazy begin!

 

[Jaskalas]

The people did NOT vote for Trump

Well... 60 million voted for him, 60 million voted against him. Hillary has a thin lead, but election rules are for the EC where he has a commanding lead. Clinton, Obama, and Trump were all able to agree on the results and the peaceful transition of power. America is holding its breath to see which new actions can be argued over next.

It's another day in America.

 

[Zaap]

It is pretty funny to see people like boomerang rant about how terrible kids are these days with apparently no understanding of the fact that every generation says the same thing.

He seems like a mean, angry, bitter old man. I feel sorry for him more than anything.

Oh please. Talk about bitter and angry. I saw one mean-spirited jackass lefty after another try to use the 'aww you need a safe space!" line against anyone on here that wasn't all in for Queen Hillary. AS IF it's the conservative side that actually does this! Most of the MANY anti-Trump threads here were nothing but circle jerks of your fellow 'progressives' spitting bile at any and everyone not of the Hillary hive-mind.

Now you want to whine about anyone making fun of leftloons in their ACTUAL safe spaces because they can't handle an uncomfortable reality? The same slam your ilk TRIED to foist against others when it's based on YOUR ILK's reality?

LMFAO!!!! You certainly earn your title, Spinmeister!

 

[MrSquished]

In this case, the current system was better. In another case, it could go the other way.

You can't have it both ways that just because you agree with the result this time, it's better. But if it doesn't jive with you, the other could be better. You are deciding on what would be the best election system for your country based upon your personal satisfaction with what the results are.

It's one or the other

 

[FerrelGeek]

Yes they did have a backbone, unfortunately they became exactly what they hated. Boomers, the generation of hypocrites.

Yes, many of them did exactly what you stated, so I completely agree with you on that point. I'm on the late side of the boomers, so I was too young to get in on the 60s stuff. But at least my wife and I didn't raise our millennials to be delicate little snowflakes.